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Toprank 
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 Topic: How many coats of glue do you use?Posted: 01/05/2012 at 5:35pm |
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I'm not talking about speed glue.
I'm relatively new to the sport and started assembling my own paddles and I've always just used one coat on the sponge and one coat on the blade. But I saw on Cole's site that he suggesst using more than one. Is that a different era or is that rule of thumb?
Please enlighten me.
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Posted: 01/05/2012 at 5:41pm |
It can depend on which glue you use, as some are thicker than others. However, personally I like to be "safe" and put on a couple layers on both the blade and the sponge. This is probably unnecessary if the first layer is thick/thorough enough, but again I like to play it safe. Best of luck to you. |
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Posted: 01/05/2012 at 6:21pm |
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for me, it depends what rubber i am using too. on h3, i use 4 coats to soften up the sponge and 1 coat on the blade. for softer rubber like t64, i only use 1 coat since the sponge is soo soft. also, if its free chack, i use multiple coats, but if its dhs glue, i tend to use a lot less
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Posted: 01/05/2012 at 7:03pm |
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I use 2 on sponge and 1 on blade. But only because the I find the Water based glues aren't that strong.
Edited by kenneyy88 - 01/05/2012 at 7:03pm |
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Posted: 01/05/2012 at 8:15pm |
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i put one layer on the rubber and another layer on the blade, that's all
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Posted: 01/05/2012 at 8:36pm |
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3 on the rubber + 1 on the blade
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Posted: 01/05/2012 at 8:40pm |
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On a porous sponge I usually use two or three layers (until I get a nice even layer). On a dense sponge usually one layer. Always one layer on the blade. Dry it with a hair dryer, using Haifu WBG.
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Posted: 01/05/2012 at 8:52pm |
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Depends on what glue you use. Haifu WBG may take many layers since it is a light glue. Nittaku Finezip is a very viscous glue so you have no choice but to have a thick single layer.
I prefer easy to spread glues that are a bit thinner and just one thin layer on sponge and blade, all done with a makeup sponge to provide a thin even layer. Gluing is an art, and a glue job can make a huge difference. Plus my setups are heavy (>205g) so the less glue the better! |
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Posted: 01/05/2012 at 9:41pm |
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You often get movement between the sponge and blade with only one layer on each, it works but it's not perfect. It's best to use 2 or 3 on each side if you are searching for that extra little bit of performance
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 1:11am |
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One on rubber and one on blade.
Unless it's speed glue, I've never felt anything different with more glue. |
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 1:54am |
+1 with Swiff... i didnt feel any additional kick or difference in spin/speed by adding an extra coat of WBG (Vario / Free chack) . |
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 2:17am |
+1. As long as i can attach rubber to blade,seems fine to me. |
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 2:24am |
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Use as much layers as it is necessary to easily remove the glue from the rubber when changing rubbers. New H2/3 require tuning, boosting and multiple gluing in between to accelerate the normal use of the rubber.
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 2:39am |
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I use one thin coat on the blade and sponge. When re-gluing I only put one coat on the blade.
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 2:41am |
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That's also an option, provided the glue on the sponge remains intact.
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 9:55am |
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I use Haifu WBG.
3 layers on sponge + 2 layers on Blade |
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 11:11am |
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One layer, let it dry, then the second (final) layer.
Same on rubbers and blade.
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 1:46pm |
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1 thin layer of rubber cement on rubber and 1 on blade. Most rubbers are factory tuned or tensors these days, so I don't want to mess with whatever they've got -- just glue it enough to hold it to the paddle, basically.
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 5:40pm |
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With most water based glues, the absolute minimum needed to get the rubber to adhere securely. One thin or medium coat on blade and rubber. Otherwise it gets really dicey when you have to change the rubber. With Haifu, which is less viscous, you need more coats or the rubber won't adhere. Back in the day of speed glue, I used one coat, but some people like to use 2-3.
Edited by Baal - 01/06/2012 at 5:43pm |
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Posted: 01/06/2012 at 5:44pm |
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One thing I have found with tenergy -- maybe it is true with others also. Make sure to let the glue dry pretty long before adhering the rubber. Otherwise it will shrink.
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Posted: 01/07/2012 at 9:56am |
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fresh rubber:
two coats of Donic Formula first (thin glue) on sponge one coat on the blade used rubber: one coat of Donic Formula first on blade all coats dried with hair drier |
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Posted: 01/08/2012 at 12:54am |
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For rubber cement for me, one coat on blade and one on rubber works (as Tom at Zeropong points out, if your bond is too strong - unlikely with rubber cement but possible with VOC-free water-based - it can be hard to remove the rubber from the blade).
The key has always been to wait until tackdry before adhering the blade and the rubber. If you rush when the rubber cement is too wet, you may end up getting a bad bond. But if you wave the blade and the rubber and let them dry for about 3 minutes and join them after, the bond tend to work great. And if the rubber comes off, just use rubber cement again - it is not a big deal though after I started waiting for the rubber cement to tack dry, I don't have this problem as much (maybe after 4 months or so of edge hits). |
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Posted: 01/08/2012 at 3:40am |
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Chinese Rubber like H3 I use 8-10 layers of Haifu Water Based Glue, if it's below 8 layers, it feels not so solid...
Porous sponge like T05, Omega 4 Pro I use at least 4 layers of Haifu Water Based Glue. |
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