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I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?
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When I boost a rubber I put one layer of white glue (Revolution #3) and let dry. Then one layer of booster (FLT) and let for 36 hours. Another layer of booster + 36h. And finally 2 layers of white glue.
It takes a lot of work, this is the reason I rarely boost. But makes a big difference specially with Hurricanes.
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Hi, dear
You had better ask the question from this cheery chinese guy, a crooky shameless character inherent to him. He must be a great expert on boosting rubbers inside a hidden parlour.

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For ESN rubber you get great results with TRF Booster.

Just one layer on sponge, without any glue layer before.

Wait 24h and then glue.. I use 2-3 layers on sponge and 1 on blade.
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Originally posted by Jackcerry Jackcerry wrote:

I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?
How long have you used the V22? With esn manufactured rubbers I usually like to stick with Falco tempo long as I think some of the Chinese boosters (even haifu national black) tend to soften the feeling of the euro rubbers a bit much.

To answer your original question - if your rubbers have seen 20+ hours of play already, then I am guessing they would be fine with having Booster applied directly to the sponge. If you haven't played with them that long, then perhaps a layer of glue first would help prevent the rubber from getting a bubble. 


Edited by anubhav1984 - 11/06/2022 at 4:57am
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Originally posted by Jackcerry Jackcerry wrote:

I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?

V>22 is amazing right out of the packaging, without any booster. If it's an old rubber and you are just trying to stretch it, different story.... 
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Originally posted by Jackcerry Jackcerry wrote:

I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?
for the nat'l black and yellow, you should have a glue layer first.  For the white I assume it will be the same
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by Jackcerry Jackcerry wrote:

I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?
for the nat'l black and yellow, you should have a glue layer first.  For the white I assume it will be the same

Why is the glue layer needed? 
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Because if not you might destroy the rubber.
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Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by Jackcerry Jackcerry wrote:

I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?
for the nat'l black and yellow, you should have a glue layer first.  For the white I assume it will be the same

Why is the glue layer needed? 
different boosters differs on the need for the glue layer.  Can't be sure but I suspect the more powerful the booster is , more they will recommend a glue layer to decrease the chances for bubble forming on the top sheet. 
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by Jackcerry Jackcerry wrote:

I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?
for the nat'l black and yellow, you should have a glue layer first.  For the white I assume it will be the same

Why is the glue layer needed? 
different boosters differs on the need for the glue layer.  Can't be sure but I suspect the more powerful the booster is , more they will recommend a glue layer to decrease the chances for bubble forming on the top sheet. 

I actually have players here that use the booster directly on the sponge of H3 neo itself and haven't had any bubbling issues so far. With the glue layer in between, the booster dries off pretty fast and you sort of end up applying more booster to get the same effect.
For all the re-boosting, people definitely apply booster directly on the sponge here. For fresh H3, if you are using a National or Provincial H3 Neo, then you already get the glue protective layer so that should be good.

What I have generally seen with ESN/Jap style of rubbers is that the rubbers do not have a tendency to bubble if you are applying upto 2 thin layers.


Edited by anubhav1984 - 11/07/2022 at 4:32pm
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Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by Jackcerry Jackcerry wrote:

I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?
for the nat'l black and yellow, you should have a glue layer first.  For the white I assume it will be the same

Why is the glue layer needed? 
different boosters differs on the need for the glue layer.  Can't be sure but I suspect the more powerful the booster is , more they will recommend a glue layer to decrease the chances for bubble forming on the top sheet. 

I actually have players here that use the booster directly on the sponge of H3 neo itself and haven't had any bubbling issues so far. With the glue layer in between, the booster dries off pretty fast and you sort of end up applying more booster to get the same effect.
For all the re-boosting, people definitely apply booster directly on the sponge here. For fresh H3, if you are using a National or Provincial H3 Neo, then you already get the glue protective layer so that should be good.

What I have generally seen with ESN/Jap style of rubbers is that the rubbers do not have a tendency to bubble if you are applying upto 2 thin layers.
  You used Neo as an example: If the glue layer that comes with it was left on, it will count  as such for boosting purposes
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by Jackcerry Jackcerry wrote:

I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?
for the nat'l black and yellow, you should have a glue layer first.  For the white I assume it will be the same


Why is the glue layer needed? 
different boosters differs on the need for the glue layer.  Can't be sure but I suspect the more powerful the booster is , more they will recommend a glue layer to decrease the chances for bubble forming on the top sheet. 


I actually have players here that use the booster directly on the sponge of H3 neo itself and haven't had any bubbling issues so far. With the glue layer in between, the booster dries off pretty fast and you sort of end up applying more booster to get the same effect.
For all the re-boosting, people definitely apply booster directly on the sponge here. For fresh H3, if you are using a National or Provincial H3 Neo, then you already get the glue protective layer so that should be good.

What I have generally seen with ESN/Jap style of rubbers is that the rubbers do not have a tendency to bubble if you are applying upto 2 thin layers.

  You used Neo as an example: If the glue layer that comes with it was left on, it will count  as such for boosting purposes



I heard from many people you should remove this glue layer before boosting
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by Jackcerry Jackcerry wrote:

I recently bought a booster, the haifu white national, how would you boost my Victas v22? Do I need to put a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting or can I boost directly the sponge? What is the difference?
for the nat'l black and yellow, you should have a glue layer first.  For the white I assume it will be the same


Why is the glue layer needed? 
different boosters differs on the need for the glue layer.  Can't be sure but I suspect the more powerful the booster is , more they will recommend a glue layer to decrease the chances for bubble forming on the top sheet. 


I actually have players here that use the booster directly on the sponge of H3 neo itself and haven't had any bubbling issues so far. With the glue layer in between, the booster dries off pretty fast and you sort of end up applying more booster to get the same effect.
For all the re-boosting, people definitely apply booster directly on the sponge here. For fresh H3, if you are using a National or Provincial H3 Neo, then you already get the glue protective layer so that should be good.

What I have generally seen with ESN/Jap style of rubbers is that the rubbers do not have a tendency to bubble if you are applying upto 2 thin layers.

  You used Neo as an example: If the glue layer that comes with it was left on, it will count  as such for boosting purposes



I heard from many people you should remove this glue layer before boosting
that is what I heard too, but anubhav1984 used neo as an example without specifying whether they removed the glue layer first , that is why I made that reply
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