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    Posted: 01/14/2011 at 8:16pm
besides normal rubber cleaner, can we use normal water to dust on surface of the rubber? one of my friend told me that clorin in the water will give damage the surface, anyone has more info?
Now i use DHS Hking 655 but i miss my the moments i use dr neubaeur firewall plus.
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I have heard that too, but I doubt that it would make much difference, since you wipe it off right away.  I alternate between rubber cleaner and tap water.
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I don't think the chlorine levels in drinking water is a problem. I use filtered water most of the time.   After play I use a rubber cleaner to remove oils from sweat and get the rubber back to a squeaky clean condition.  Lamp oil does a pretty good job of cleaning too.


 


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I use tap water and a sponge that has that cheese cloth material around it. I have also put a few drops of lemon juice in the water to help remove oils. My rubbers have held up just fine and I clean them a couple times each time I play and when I put my rackets up.

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I use RO (reverse osmosis) filtered water and a microfiber cloth (a 3M cloth, not the kind you use for your glasses).  I spray the water on with a little sprayer I got from a beauty supply shop. The microfiber cloth seems to be all that is necessary to pick up oils.

I doubt that there's enought chlorine in tap water to cause any problems.  But you could always buy a bottle of distilled water and set it aside exclusively for cleaning your rubbers.  A gallon of water should last a few years.

BTW, I did this back when I used tacky rubbers and the rubbers stayed tacky.  I use it now on my hardbat rubbers and it seems to be effective at keeping the playing surface consistent. 

I see no need to buy cleaners.  Spend the money saved on lessons or entering tournaments.
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emm so as conclusion... always clean our rubber with tap water everyday will not cause damage to our rubber? :)
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sweat and breathe is the best.. a old time chinese nat coach told me :D
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at the end or in between games, just use a good sponge, wet it with water and clean away the sweat and dirt..  once dry, cover it with protective sheet. I've been using this method for years and my rubber is still as tacky/grippy.. 

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For a good sponge... I use those industrial grade sponge (for washing car), cut into smaller pieces... and each small piece can last a good 6 month with every alternate day use..
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In addition, you can apply some regular foam cleaner for printer plastic, etc. After all, we are not married to those rubbers...

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RJTT- That's interesting. Lemon juice? I am currently drinking lemon juice and water as I sift through the forums. I am going to give this a try. I suppose if its good enough to cleanse my colon, it's good enough to clean my Acudas.

zheyi- I have read that sweat and breath are the best cleaners during a match also. However, that only works on certain rubbers. The newer tensors seem to become more slick when sweat it applied to the surface. But the Chinese rubbers seem to fair well from this method of cleaning.
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Pure or filtered water is a good choice for me.  It is just cleaning the rubber.

Sweat or lemon may contain some oil, which tends to make some part of the rubber softer, and eventually makes the rubber unplayable. 
 
Originally posted by MindTrip MindTrip wrote:

RJTT- That's interesting. Lemon juice? I am currently drinking lemon juice and water as I sift through the forums. I am going to give this a try. I suppose if its good enough to cleanse my colon, it's good enough to clean my Acudas.

zheyi- I have read that sweat and breath are the best cleaners during a match also. However, that only works on certain rubbers. The newer tensors seem to become more slick when sweat it applied to the surface. But the Chinese rubbers seem to fair well from this method of cleaning.
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Originally posted by davidz davidz wrote:

Pure or filtered water is a good choice for me.  It is just cleaning the rubber.

Sweat or lemon may contain some oil, which tends to make some part of the rubber softer, and eventually makes the rubber unplayable. 
 
Originally posted by MindTrip MindTrip wrote:

RJTT- That's interesting. Lemon juice? I am currently drinking lemon juice and water as I sift through the forums. I am going to give this a try. I suppose if its good enough to cleanse my colon, it's good enough to clean my Acudas.

zheyi- I have read that sweat and breath are the best cleaners during a match also. However, that only works on certain rubbers. The newer tensors seem to become more slick when sweat it applied to the surface. But the Chinese rubbers seem to fair well from this method of cleaning.
Have you ever used lemon juice to see if it makes rubber "unplayable"? Pure lemon juice is not oily at all. Rub some pure lemon juice on your hands, rub it in and let it dry. It will not feel oily or sticky, just clean. If and when I use lemon juice it is mixed like 90 to 1 ration with just a few drops put in the bottle of water. Just enough to help remove any oils from the rubber. 
 
I have yet to have any negative effects of using what I use. If you want to use tripple distilled water, or whatever that is cool with me.
 
Good luck with your super duper purified water clean rubbers. :)


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Sorry, my mistaken.  I though that the perfume of the pure lemon juice is some kind of oil,  someone uses lemon oil to tune rubber and then makes my conclusion. 
 
Unfortunately, it is not true.  Certainly, self-experience on cleanning rubber is more important!!
 
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Have you ever used lemon juice to see if it makes rubber "unplayable"? Pure lemon juice is not oily at all. Rub some pure lemon juice on your hands, rub it in and let it dry. It will not feel oily or sticky, just clean. If and when I use lemon juice it is mixed like 90 to 1 ration with just a few drops put in the bottle of water. Just enough to help remove any oils from the rubber. 
 
I have yet to have any negative effects of using what I use. If you want to use tripple distilled water, or whatever that is cool with me.
 
Good luck with your super duper purified water clean rubbers. :)
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Originally posted by davidz davidz wrote:

Sorry, my mistaken.  I though that the perfume of the pure lemon juice is some kind of oil,  someone uses lemon oil to tune rubber and then makes my conclusion. 
 
Unfortunately, it is not true.  Certainly, self-experience on cleanning rubber is more important!!
 
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Have you ever used lemon juice to see if it makes rubber "unplayable"? Pure lemon juice is not oily at all. Rub some pure lemon juice on your hands, rub it in and let it dry. It will not feel oily or sticky, just clean. If and when I use lemon juice it is mixed like 90 to 1 ration with just a few drops put in the bottle of water. Just enough to help remove any oils from the rubber. 
 
I have yet to have any negative effects of using what I use. If you want to use tripple distilled water, or whatever that is cool with me.
 
Good luck with your super duper purified water clean rubbers. :)
 
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Lemon juice mixture is actually a good idea. My wife uses lemon juice to clean her hands after eating crab legs and it leaves no residue, just the fresh scent of lemon. Plus, I have been drinking a ton of lemon water as of late, so its always handy while I'm playing.
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Pure lemon juice has some sugar in it. About two grams of carbs per ounce. It also contains acids.  I'd have to think that lemon juice would leave a residue as well as expose the rubber to a moderate degree of acid.  Lemon oil, OTOH, might leave little or no residue.  But lemon oil has a fair amount of d-limonene in it.  If so, it would likely cause your racket to fail a racket sniffing test.

d-Limonene is a VOC.  It is used as a safer alternative to turpentine.  It is a major ingredient in GooGone.  It is a significant ingredient in many or most cleaning products that claim to be "citrus".  Oh and that citrus scent from these products is from the d-limonene.  

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I stoped using cleaners (except a fellow clubmates every 2/3 weeks or so) a good while back.
I do like the small Yinhe & or Nittaku/Butterfly type sponges designed for the job with any plain ole tap water.
 
What hasn't been mentioned yet is the use of a drop of dish-washing soap every month or so to make sure the surface stays quite nice.
 
It really does work. Apply, work about then rinse thoroughly.
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dish-washing soap? emm.. no effect like pure lemon juice - voc ? :)
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I think that tap water is fine, I would suggest that you find a sponge to dry the rubber surface rather than paper towels, towels, or cloth materials simply because the fibers from these materials may sometimes stick to the rubber surface when drying. At least with a sponge the water gets absorbed and it does not leave fibers behind. Also, getting some plastic covers is good too.

I've been using just tap water for the longest time because I figured that the soap cleaners/foam cleaners, etc was just a waste of money, but ever since I used my friend's kenetix rubber revitalizer and cleaner....ShockedShockedShocked WOW!
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I like filtered water or Donic Bioclean. I use a chamois sponge.

Whatever you do, stay away from alcohol based cleaners like Paddle Palace's brand. I first hand witnessed two players with the same rubber (one with PP cleaner every time he played, the other only cleaned his rubber 1x a week with tap water) and the former went to "glass like slickness" within three months, the latter topsheet is fine after 6 mos.
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Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

Pure lemon juice has some sugar in it. About two grams of carbs per ounce. It also contains acids.  I'd have to think that lemon juice would leave a residue as well as expose the rubber to a moderate degree of acid.  Lemon oil, OTOH, might leave little or no residue.  But lemon oil has a fair amount of d-limonene in it.  If so, it would likely cause your racket to fail a racket sniffing test.

d-Limonene is a VOC.  It is used as a safer alternative to turpentine.  It is a major ingredient in GooGone.  It is a significant ingredient in many or most cleaning products that claim to be "citrus".  Oh and that citrus scent from these products is from the d-limonene.  

 
d-limonene (citrus or lemon oil) definitely will impart a strong citrus smell to the rubber, and it also has considerable tuning effects.  A little parrafin oil (lamp oil) rubbed on the top sheet will deep clean and restore the tack/grip as well, and will also pass the sniff test, as it is virtually odorless. However these products will shorten the life of the rubber if used too often and may cause some temporary bubbling on the topsheet. I only use them about once every 2 weeks, and for regular cleaning just use water applied with an Ocelo sponge for daily play, as often as needed to remove dust, dog hair, etc.
 
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I just started to use "Amor All", no smell, doesn't seem to have changed the top sheets properties.
I haven't tried it yet on tackier rubbers but so far no dust is finding it's way onto the rubber and no tuning effect.


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