How to develop touch(waldner)

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sidofmillenium Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 12/22/2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1504	Post Options Post Reply Quote sidofmillenium Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: How to develop touch(waldner) Posted: 05/15/2007 at 10:20am
	I was watching a clip where waldner was bouncing the ball of his legs and then to end it, he made the ball land on his blade and the ball didn't bounce! As the ball was coming down on his blade, he lowered his blade instantly and managed to just roll the ball on it. It is a killerspin video I watched at a killerspin tourney. It was Waldner against Persson. It was the same place from where the popular Waldner lobbing video was taken. Anyways, the point is, I have been trying to do that, and I can't seem to do it. Does anybody knows how do I develop it? I have tried the flipping blade bouncing ball method and perfected it but still I am unable to do it. Can someone help me? Thx.

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kenneyy88 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premier Member Joined: 01/06/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4074	Post Options Post Reply Quote kenneyy88 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/15/2007 at 10:47am
	Tennis players do the same thing. You need to move your racket at the same speed at which the ball is falling, so it is like the ball is not moving. Then you can land it on your blade without it bouncing.

alink91 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premier Member Joined: 03/22/2005 Location: Hong Kong Status: Offline Points: 3233	Post Options Post Reply Quote alink91 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/15/2007 at 5:17pm
	Its a hard thing to do. As the ball comes down, you almost catch it somewhat high in the air, then as the ball comes down, make sure your padle comes down with it. Then gradually, let the ball touch the paddle. When it touches the paddle, keep going down, just a barely but slower or the same speed as the ball. Its very hard and it takes lots of space, I think ive treid like a million times and got it once or twice.

JKC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 11/12/2006 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1625	Post Options Post Reply Quote JKC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/15/2007 at 5:43pm
	When hitting the ball in the air ensure you get as little spin as possible. I find you have more margin for error if you begin with the bat almost vertical and roll the blade face away from you pulling your wrist down and towards yourself as the ball contacts the bat. You have to be quick to react to prevent the ball from rolling off the blade when you first catch it. Like anything else in TT you need to practice if you want to impress your friends. Start by just hitting the ball 5 feet in the air and work up. I can only do it probably about 1 in 3 times when hitting the ball 20-30 feet in the air, but I don't really practice to do it.
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vivleien Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 08/22/2003 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 143	Post Options Post Reply Quote vivleien Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/15/2007 at 6:20pm
	Even easier: try to do it with a brand new tacky chinese rubber. It won't bounce without anything special to do (at least with hurricane 3 / skyline 3)

rustyfo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 01/21/2007 Location: Faroe Islands Status: Offline Points: 702	Post Options Post Reply Quote rustyfo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/15/2007 at 6:42pm
	as the above poster said, if you do it with for example a brand new Hurricane3, its pisseasy to do it without any effort at all. For other rubbers its more tricky, but still possible. Not really any point in trying to learn it though :P

kenneyy88 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premier Member Joined: 01/06/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4074	Post Options Post Reply Quote kenneyy88 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/15/2007 at 8:14pm
	It's pretty easy to do, helps build racket control.

JRSDallas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 09/03/2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 585	Post Options Post Reply Quote JRSDallas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/16/2007 at 12:32am
	Another neat trick is to roll the ball from the FH to BH and back without bouncing the ball. You roll the ball towards the blade edge and then lift your racket just enough as you flip to the BH side as the ball comes to the edge so that the ball just rolls across the edge and onto the BH side. Its cool to watch someone who can just do it back and forth. I've been able to do it from FH to BH and sometimes from BH to FH but I'm not very good at it.

yogi_bear Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 11/25/2004 Location: Philippines Status: Offline Points: 7220	Post Options Post Reply Quote yogi_bear Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/17/2007 at 9:42am
	i could do persson's bouncing the ball on the tip of the handle but only 8-10 times before missing the ball.. on catching the ball, the moment the ball lands on your blade move your blade downwards like absorbing the impact it will not bounce after that
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master-pong Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 11/30/2005 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 1458	Post Options Post Reply Quote master-pong Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/17/2007 at 4:06pm
	it's quite funny to watch, but hard to do. I haven't been able to "catch" the ball with it bouncing off that many times though..and I'm too lazy to rly practise it

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