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namari
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Posted: 07/17/2007 at 9:20am |
Has anyone here played with the Hurricane 2 Pro? How does it compare to the standard Hurricane 2 in terms of speed, spin, control etc?
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Madbrazilian
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Are you talking about the nittaku version of hurricane II
http://www.presports.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_6&products_id=867&zenid=5c401ab6cbf8b061f3d0d7f9a8eac259 as far as I know, that's just like hurricane II. The only difference is that nittaku is the distributor for DHS stuff in Japan. So they repackage the same rubber, calling it Hurricane II pro. It's really the same thing though. |
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namari
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Yes, that's the one:
But if the repackaging is the only difference, why are both offered by the same distributors on the same sites side by side at different costs? For example: http://www.iruiru.com/e/acn/ http://www.takugekiya.com/default.php?cPath=33 Anyone know? |
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Madbrazilian
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I think nittaku charges more for their version of the rubber. It's the same thing on presports.com
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namari
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Ahhh, I think you have something there. There's no doubt that Nittaku charges more for their version of H2 but looking more carefully at the site, I'm seeing that the H2Pro:
is made in Japan, while the regular H2 (even the Nittaku version): is made in China. |
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namari
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So that takes me back to my original question:
What are the differences in playing characteristics between the Japanese H2 Pro and the other versions of H2? |
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Skyline
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the h2 pro is more similar to the h3 national. better quality
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namari
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Thanks Skyline. Do you think it's worth the $30+ it sells for?
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I don't know depends on what sort of rubber you're looking for |
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Madbrazilian
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that's interesting, so they're made in two different factories?
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ProfessorChaos
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Maybe Nittaku H2/H3 Pro is made with Japanese sponge and Nittaku H2/H3 is just the same as H2/H3 from DHS....just speculating? |
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mece
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no they're the same factory. Both have the top sheets made in China at DHS factory. The diff is the sponge, the nittaku just has chinese top on jap sponge.
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namari
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So no one here has actually tried playing with the H2Pro? I guess I may have to give it a try.
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ssiew968
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the PRO version is very similar to those national version of H3. Basically those very good quality sponge were selected for production of PRO version or national version. In fact, in Malaysia, the PRO version is more expensive than national version due to Nittaku brand.
The different between commercial, provincial and national/Pro is just the quality of sponge. Imagine a bit piece of sponge being produced. There are bound to be some good quality one, medium quality and bad quality.
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wah ssiew968... a nittaku convert...caya lah lu...sim guan sudah racun nittaku sama you ka?...ahaks
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kmh888
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Pro is faster and more spinnier than the nittaku version...ive tried both.
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namari
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Thanks kmh888. Good to know.
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creeder06
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i have heard tail that the nittaku version has a much softer sponge cant confirm it though.
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I bought a Nittaku Hurricane 3 Pro and it has the #20 stamp on the sponge. I have the 2.2 mm version, the hardness it says on the sponge is D39+-2. The sponge does feel softer than my other 39 degree DHS rubbers.
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namari
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Interesting, the H2Pro has the exact same stamp on it :#20, D39+-2.
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the normal dhs hurricanes and the pro have different sponges..the normal hurricane's sponge is a little rough and too hard,the nittaku pro is smooth and a little bit soft.and compare to spin i think almost the same but just a little spinny because of softer sponge,the speed and feel is defferent.. im using nittaku hurricane 3 pro.FH & BH, acoustic.
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The pro also has a lower throw angle than a commercial or provincial Hurricane 3. U need a longer stroke with the pro
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namari
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Okay, so I decided to get the H2Pro from Nittaku and try it out for myself. Here's what I've found after playing with it for a week:
First I should mention that I treated it with 3 sessions of EE2. Then I primed it with 3 coats of Stiga Victory and applied it to my Donic Waldner Diablo. The first thing I noticed was the weight. It's quite a bit heavier than the other Japanese Nittaku rubbers like Hammond X etc. The topsheet was not sticky like the regular Hurricane 2, but has great spin. However, the sponge is not nearly as soft as many Jap/Euro sponges, so to get good spin, you really have to make the ball sink in using a heavier contact stroke as opposed to a brush or touch stroke. The arc is very low, control is excellent, and speed is good. In summary: Many have commented that this rubber improves with age. I would say that if it doesn't, although it's a fine rubber, it's not worth the $$. You're better off going with the Inspirt from Cole's which is a closer match of the Jap/Euro rubbers. But if you just have to have a high end Chinese style rubber, H2Pro from Nittaku is your ticket. |
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