I've been banned from Princeton Pong event

You have problems... In most countries where the situation is so much better than in the US (I actually wonder if there’s a country where the situation is worse) we still don’t have tournaments.

Donn, I haven't been following Maryland so don't know what the Covid-19 stats are there.   All I can say is that I live in Houston,  and states in the northeast and elsewhere that are getting this thing under control would have to be NUTS to allow anyone from here to enter without imposing a  mandatory quarantine upon arrival.  It sucks but that's just being prudent.   In Italy they ended up shutting down travel between the different provinces for awhile   That is  one of the reasons they now have been able to return to something more or less like normal life.  Right now a pingpong tournament doesn't seem like a great justification for something ill advisesd from an epidemiological perspective.   Again, I'm talking in this case about Texas, Florida,  Georgia,  Arizona, etc. Like I said, I haven't been following Maryland.  But why not jus voluntarily  respect the decisions of New Jersey public health officials for now?

Egghead wrote: Fabian1890 wrote: You have problems... In most countries where the situation is so much better than in the US (I actually wonder if there’s a country where the situation is worse) we still don’t have tournaments. The USA should get their s... together before they think about playing tournaments. Playing a tournament right now with people coming from different places is just irresponsible in the current situation. It will only further spread the virus. First of all, you need to know not all states in USA are hot states. So, it is fine for people in some states to have a "normal" activities with "a measure of caution." Having said that, you are damn right. That tournamnent should local only. Look at HK now, they are in big shxt. In fact, they have number of newly infected people from a single case (after playing a tt torunamnent).

cole_ely wrote: h0n1g wrote: maybe stay at home instead of playing a freakin table tennis tournament at a time where hospitals are starting to send home patients to die.  This is literally what is wrong with the US. People are not used to making sacrifices when it comes to their “personal freedom”.  Wow We should be a lot more like China, Huh?

DonnOlsen wrote: More interesting than me, I noticed two Omnipong tournament registrants are from Maryland; both, I know, also are not in compliance with this quarantine requirement.  What then becomes intriguing is what happens if one of these players shows up on tournament day?  Will the New Jersey Quarantine Enforcement Police be waiting at the club's door?  Will the tournament officials seek verification that the two week quarantine has been fulfilled?  Will the tournament officials ban the player from the tournament?  Will fines be issued?  Is the club in jeopardy of the accusation of fostering this delinquent behavior? I know none of the answers. Thanks.

idk wrote: cole_ely wrote: idk wrote: cole_ely wrote: h0n1g wrote: maybe stay at home instead of playing a freakin table tennis tournament at a time where hospitals are starting to send home patients to die.  This is literally what is wrong with the US. People are not used to making sacrifices when it comes to their “personal freedom”.  Wow We should be a lot more like China, Huh?  unfortunately that ship has sailed but if by "like china" you mean there was a capable government response from the beginning, then yeah things wouldn't be where they are at right now. but that's not possible exactly because of what h0n1g says. americans are simply too damn self-centered and as a whole cannot actually do something for the greater good even if it means temporarily sacrificing "MUH FREEDUM" Just can we make our points without insulting America? That's my only concern. Yes but it would be denying the obvious to not acknowledge this. The US, both the government response and the response of the people is the laughingstock around the world right now and for good reason.

idk wrote: cole_ely wrote: idk wrote: cole_ely wrote: h0n1g wrote: maybe stay at home instead of playing a freakin table tennis tournament at a time where hospitals are starting to send home patients to die.  This is literally what is wrong with the US. People are not used to making sacrifices when it comes to their “personal freedom”.  Wow We should be a lot more like China, Huh?  unfortunately that ship has sailed but if by "like china" you mean there was a capable government response from the beginning, then yeah things wouldn't be where they are at right now. but that's not possible exactly because of what h0n1g says. americans are simply too damn self-centered and as a whole cannot actually do something for the greater good even if it means temporarily sacrificing "MUH FREEDUM" Just can we make our points without insulting America? That's my only concern. Yes but it would be denying the obvious to not acknowledge this. The US, both the government response and the response of the people is the laughingstock around the world right now and for good reason.

Edited by NextLevel - 07/25/2020 at 3:39pm

Don,

Are you sure you got ban? At least 4 person from MD all registered. If MD is banned, they should be all banned. As far as I know, they have no empty spots left for two high rating events.

mjamja wrote: Don, Could your ban have been the result of someone at the club reading your book PATT  (Principled Approach to Table Tennis) and then bribing the governor to keep such heretical TT thoughts from infecting their states Table Tennis community. Seems a little heavy handed to ban all of Maryland just to keep you out but people do have strange reactions to reading PATT Mark - Proud owner of a copy of PATT.

Perhaps the tristate area is just skeered.  

mentortt wrote: Are you sure you got ban? At least 4 person from MD all registered. If MD is banned, they should be all banned. As far as I know, they have no empty spots left for two high rating events.

Ultimately we must face what we think we are as human in a group and when we understand that our relationships mainly define who we are, we want to protect other people more and self quarantine is the key: to better protect other people, I stay away from them. If I go out, I wear a mask, easy. It's easier for me with a job and a family and I feel for those respectful of other people and staying alone, going through what I hope is a spiritual experience that improves them. My hat's off to those. No tourney!

Stopped reporting directly to CDC, actually.  It now goes to HHS first.

Edited by Baal - 07/27/2020 at 5:49pm

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