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NextLevel
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I know some one who bought the JRE, pretended to like it then sold all his JREs. Do not be like him. Fine, it is not the Timo Boll ALC (Timo) or the Viscaria (ZJK), but Rosskoepf has used it, as well as Tanja Hain Hoffman and Petrissa Solja. Spin oriented blade with loads of control. The balance is suprisingly modern so Tenergies and heavy rubbers don't feel as heavy. A classic but of course, only you can truly decide. Now I have a question. ===================== I like the JRE - the lower gears are awesome. However, when I engage the sponge on higher gear because I want long trajectory strokes, the ball ends up on the net. Would like to try something that does less bottoming out on the JRE on the forehand. I currently use T05 so the candidates are T80, T80FX, T64, 64 FX. T05 is fine on the backhand.Only Tenergy users please, especially with thin stiff blades. Edited by NextLevel - 05/25/2014 at 9:29pm |
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If those are the only rubbers in your choice list and you're really bottoming out the T05, it takes the FX rubbers out of contention leaving only T80 and T64 as choices. I would try one of those (T64 obviously has longer trajectory than T80).
I had practically brand new T80 & T64 max on my 86g JRE. Could have mailed the set-up to you to try out for free before you spend money on the rubbers but I just sold the rubbers this week to a mytt member in the UK. T80 on FH felt like it had too much dwell - think it works better on non-hinoki all-wood blades or lower dwell composites. I think T64 might work on FH. However, perhaps you might want to ask others on the chances of bottoming out T64 as it has an even softer feel than T05. I know you said Tenergy only, but if you want a rubber that has similar throw to T05 but slightly harder sponge (less susceptible to bottoming out) but softer topsheet, slightly longer trajectory, better control, just as easy to spin with (unlike the MX-P) and much cheaper, consider the Xiom Omega V Tour. The caveat is that it is heavier than T05.
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I use Tibhar 1QXd FH with joola rossi emotion, and what can I say........godlike.
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I liked T80 on the JRE, but it did feel very vague at times. Results were good, but the feel wasn't right for me.
I'm using Omega V Pro now. Epic in every department. Worth a try. |
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05 is not that hard. The bottoming out feel might come from softness of blade with not that hard sponge. the first decision to make is to go 1.9mm to let the blade shine more. Your blocking and smashing will improve while you and I are not good enough to get our looping suffer from going down from 2.1.
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If Tenergy 05 is too soft, you could try Evolution MX-P. I say this as a well known Tenergy enthusiast. It throws slightly lower but has plenty of trajectory and has a lot of Tenergy-like properties. I am pretty sure it would solve that problem. If you want purely longer trajectory, then go with T64 but it is definitely softer feel, but it is from topsheet so maybe not a problem. Those seem to me to be the best alternatives. Avoid FX.
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I just went through a similar decision phase for my FH rubber. I settled on Spinart. If you are looking for a harder sponge in the same family of rubbers than that's pretty much it. Any FX rubber is going to be too soft.
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Stiga Calibra LT is specially formulated to specialise in long trajectory shots, it's very strong further back from the table particularly for counterlooping and long range strokes but also doesn't lose too much touch close to the table and for small exchanges etc. There are other variants like LT Sound, Plus and Spin to favour different aspects and specifics in style also.
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Sorry, not interested. A 2500 player at my club calls Calibra "No Spin".
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Thanks, everyone. I realized it was a bad glue job and fixed it. My setup plays much better now.
I was being a bit silly in my initial post and was waiting for someone to call me out on it - I appreciate the polite responses. I appreciated for the first time going back to the JRE that I have never used a truly flexible blade in my TT career and that influenced how I played more than I realized. I like the way thin blades feel but there were aspect of the JRE's stiffness I liked as well which I realized when smashing today. That along with the need for a flatter straight handle led me back to the JRE. Seeing my BH in action today, I'm no longer compromising on handle thickness. or blade thickness. I am still open to debates on flex.... |
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I finally gave in and bought this blade. Its surprisingly soft softer than i expected. I put T05 on fh and bh and it was a looping machine. I thought it would be bouncy on short game like the primo carbon but its controllable. Slower than my viscaria specially on powerloops but still has good speed to finish a point. I like the way T05 pairs with blade. Service receive Specially bh flick is spinny and easier to execute. I will try to put rhyzm tomorrow. Maybe rhyzm can take away that extra soft feeling
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Glad you found the blade promising. Does the soft feeling disturb you that much? Rhyzm is a good rubber but T05 is T05...
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I like the appealing title lol
I find today the jre to be the poor man's photino which is itself a softish do it all wand for those who can't handle the straighter no nonsense TB ALC. I am kidding of course; the JRE costs less than half the tb alc (130 v. 50); my level does not require spending 2.6 times the jre that offers more than anything I could ask or need to reach and play all my potential. |
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no it does not. Its just had softer feel than what i expected. Of course i know that changing from vis to jre will not improve my level. IVe played with it and i won some and lost some just like what happed when i played with my vis or clipper but it just had a good feel in my hand that feeling like yeah this is the blade although i know without denial that my game is still the same. The important thing for me is that i enjoyed playing with it makes me feel great hitting topspins. I hope u know what im describing |
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i also tried rhyzm and its also good. But yeah T05 is T05. |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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FYI: For all the JRE enthusiasts out there:
Here's one for $40:
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And Calibra LT SPIN has 0,1% spin These rubbers are made for hard blades which help a little bit more with the spin, but usually the softer blades are not so bad with the elder Boost rubbers series. The blade JRE I have tested many years ago, but I was with mixed feelings about it. It worked well with Joola Phenix rubbers then, but now they are stopped from production. With Mx-P that blade will be very speedy I think and hard to play safe your game if you are not professional player ( many hours of play every day). The rubber is not so expensive, so you can test it. |
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T05 is one of the hardest out of all Tenergies. Maybe T25? since the pimples are the biggest.. or T80.
Like someone said before Spin Art might be an option for your FH. Edited by DreiZ - 10/14/2014 at 7:01pm |
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