Kreanga Carbon

Hi!

What do you think about this blade?
(Please don't tell me to do a search, because I have found many posts, but nothing similar to a review. Btw, it's not illegal.)

Thanks!

I've seen Hu Jiashun (World ranking somewhere in the top 200) using it just yesterday and asked him whether the blade was legal or not (felt kind of silly about the question because he was playing with it). He told me that it was totally legal. He has been using it both in national and international tournaments/matches for quite some years now, he told me. I further asked him about its characteristics, but he was in kind of a hurry for the next match and could not tell me. 

The KC looks similar to the ULC Uniaxial Light Carbon Ishlion except for the former's silver coatings.
I like the blade.  I sold it to somebody's who's interested to have that.
But the buyer called me up the other day, he is having a hard time gluing a Bryce Speed rubber using a BTY free chack glue.
I just told him to spread the glue on both the blade and the rubber then let it  dry first before sticking both.  I told him to use a book to press on it.
Since then, I haven't heard from him yet.
I guess there is a specific glue for that blade. Because its surface is slippery.

I read somewhere that the rule that is used to deemed it illegal is:

4. Racket

4.2. At least 85% of the blade by thickness shall be of natural wood; an adhesive layer within the blade may be reinforced with fibrous material such as carbon fibre, glass fibre or compressed paper, but shall not be thicker than 7.5% of the total thickness or 0.35mm, whichever is the smaller.

There's two possibilities why it is illegal:

a. The blade surface is fully covered by the silver paint. So you cannot see whether 85 % of the blade thickness is natural wood. and/or

b. the paint and the carbon exceeded the limit of 7.5% of total thickness/0.35mm

The laws of table tennis about blades are not clear really, you can read that in anyway you want, as far as I read it, there's nothing illegal about silver paint on the surface. The guys that wrote it probably speak English as a second language :).

It says you can't have a layer of carbon thicker than .35mm but there's nothing to stop you having 10 layers of .35 mm carbon straight ontop of each other so long as it doesn't go over 7.5% of the total thickness of the blade. And there's nothing in the rules to say you can't seal a blade with coloured paint (clear paint is fine) so what's the difference and who was the person that had the idea that this blade was illegal anyway?

We all know it's wood underneath :) I don't think that's a problem. Not hard to slice some paint off to prove it's wood

dragon kid wrote: I read somewhere that the rule that is used to deemed it illegal is: 4. Racket 4.2. At least 85% of the blade by thickness shall be of natural wood; an adhesive layer within the blade may be reinforced with fibrous material such as carbon fibre, glass fibre or compressed paper, but shall not be thicker than 7.5% of the total thickness or 0.35mm, whichever is the smaller. There's two possibilities why it is illegal: a. The blade surface is fully covered by the silver paint. So you cannot see whether 85 % of the blade thickness is natural wood. and/or b. the paint and the carbon exceeded the limit of 7.5% of total thickness/0.35mm

Butterfly stop making anything people don't buy :) doesn't mean it's illegal

jossix wrote: dragon kid wrote: The thing is.. it's illegal.. The simplest way to proof if it's illegal or not is to see whether Bty still produce them.. If they still keep producing them than it's legal. But I doubt it.. nonsense. i own a legal butterfly blade that is no longer produced by them.HS Cryzer.a wonderful blade.

Shoot.. are we talking about Cryzer? does Cryzer has painting coat on it? Please stay on the context of the topic..

Talking about something that is not on topic, that's nonsense..

Daaaa...
I said if the side of the blade is covered by the paint, than you can't see whether 85% of the thickness is wood, can you?
Does anyone read every posts to get the picture before replying anymore these days??

I am done here.. if you think it's legal then go ahead buy it. Why would i care..

yeahh.. I heard 85% of snow must be cold. the other can be warm or hot by 0.35 mm or 7.5%..

Quote from Mr. Sharara from another forum about KC legality:
"First let me tell you that I am not an expert in these matters, and my response to you is solely based on my understanding. Normally I would consult with the Equipment Committee, the Rules Committee, etc., before responding, but due to this time of year I prefer to answer you directly to save time. My understanding from the Umpire's response is that he knows the legality of a blade, but he does not have the mechanism to check it or test it. The blade has to be produced according to the ITTF rule (2.4 The Racket) and according to the Technical Leaflet (T-4). So we all know what is legal and what is not legal. However, it is true that currently, unless obvious, there is no mechanism to test the legality of a blade other than by sight. If the blade is badly warped, or not flat, or made of metal, etc, then of course the Umpire can disqualify the racket indicating what is wrong. However, I appreciate the dilemma of the Umpire in matters such as the 'composition" of the blade and to ensure that 85% wood materials are used, etc. These are not possible to check with the naked eye by the Umpire. So, in this case he has to depend on the fact that the blade comes from a reputable company that follows ITTF rules and specifications. In fact, the ITTF does not authorize nor approve blades. Perhaps we will need to do it in the future. So, yes, we must abide by Rule 2.4 and Technical Leaflet T-4. Adham"

TECHNICAL LEAFLET T-4 :

A. Qualitative Criteria
1. General Appearance
The racket consists of blade, adhesive, and racket covering(s) with or
without sponge.
1.1. Blade
A very thin layer of lacquer is permitted on the blade, only for the purpose
of anchoring wood fibres, thereby facilitating replacement of the covering.
Anything more than this will be deemed to constitute a layer of plastic,
and will not be permitted. This layer may be no more than 0.1 mm thick,
and should not hide the wood from sight or touch. It is considered to be
part of the blade, rather than part of the thickness of the covering.

Source : http://tabletennis.about.com/library/Rules/T4_Racket_Coverings_2007.pdf

Booom.. there it is.. I rest my case..

Well there you, why didn't someone post that section of the rules before :)

dragon kid wrote: 1.1. Blade A very thin layer of lacquer is permitted on the blade, only for the purpose of anchoring wood fibres, thereby facilitating replacement of the covering. Anything more than this will be deemed to constitute a layer of plastic, and will not be permitted. This layer may be no more than 0.1 mm thick, and should not hide the wood from sight or touch. It is considered to be part of the blade, rather than part of the thickness of the covering. Source : http://tabletennis.about.com/library/Rules/T4_Racket_Coverings_2007.pdf Booom.. there it is.. I rest my case..