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    Posted: 02/22/2008 at 11:47pm
Recently, I've been making a lot of frustrating unforced errors with my H3 in that when I smash high balls, it goes off the end of the table.  I try to close my paddle more, but it is coming to the point where I am almost hitting down on the ball, which is a no no as I've been taught early on.  I have played with a variety of srivers and mark v's, which are supposed to be mid to high throw rubbers, and I've never had this problem with those before.

I like the tackiness of H3, but I want a bit lower throw.  The obvious choice would be to try H2, but I dunno, I kinda get creeped out by an even harder sponge.  At any rate, can you please compare the throw angles of H3, TG2, H2, and TG3?  It would be helpful if you could list them in order from highest to lowest throw angle.

Otherwise, can anyone recommend any similarly tacky rubbers (Friendship? Globe?) that have a lower throw than H3?

Thanks in advance.
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If smashing high balls is your only problem, I'd say just stick with the h3 and adjust. Cuz if you change to a different rubber, you'll probably have to readjust every other aspect of your shot.
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don't under-estimate the spins of the high balls.  try to make the right judgement next time before you smashing the high balls, and let us know if the problem is still there.
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Thanks for your help, guys.  I'm starting to think that it is just me doing something wrong, but we'll see.  I'm going to the club tomorrow and will try some more adjusting.
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h2 and skyline 3--- low throw, h3 and sky2 --- high throw
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the arc angle is low for H2, but the throwing angle at yor arm will be high
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don't blame the equipment
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Originally posted by asr1990 asr1990 wrote:

don't blame the equipment


hahahha, that's true though. Btw, pray tell what's so deathly wrong about hitting downwards?

If you want a quick fix, do what Ma Long does and use the BH rubber to smash with...I'm sure your V-stage would be fast enough.

If you want a long-term fix, either hit more downwards, side spin chop the ball, or just put it back short. Basically, table tennis isn't all about power...loop kills are fun to a point, then you gotta work on finesse.
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     Common error when I coach, hitting high balls long. It is caused in part by trying to loop a ball that is high. General rule I tell them, the lower the ball, the lower you start your stroke. The higher the ball, the higher you start. When it is more than 18 inches over the table, Forget the loop, draw a straight line to the other side and go right through the ball. You dont need the spin on a high ball to get it back down. Try to open the blade more and start about the same height as the ball and go right into the ball, more of a drive than a loop.Smile
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your smashes not working has nothing to do with the equipment. The sooner you realise that, the sooner you can fix the problem.
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Right on RustyfoSmile
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Thanks, everyone, for your replies.

I hear what you're sayin: I will most definitely keep trying to adjust with my H3.  I am relatively new to the rubber, but I like it enough to stick with it and adjust this one aspect of my game.  After all, the ability to adapt is the tt player's greatest weapon, right?

@Hookshot: I am not doing any looping motion when I smash.  I think I might be aiming towards the end of the table too much rather than the middle, and that is where I miss.  I've always thought that the farther back on the table I hit the ball, the more power it seems to the opponent so that I can push him back for a drop shot or something.  Any thoughts?

@Gekogark: No, I am not going for power in my smashes, really.  I am actually a really weak person: I am 5'8" and weigh about 110 lbs.  I would show you a pic of my bicep but then I'd get laughed off this forum or recommended for a eating disorder clinic!  As it is, I just want to stop missing.

Also, I looked up a video of Ma Long and yeah, he pulls off the paddle flip really well.  I, on the other hand, do not have the finesse and I can picture myself in a butterfingers situation if I try.

Another quick question: are you supposed to jump when you smash?

As you might have noticed, topic title changed.
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