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abshadow15 
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 Topic: lobbingPosted: 12/05/2008 at 6:30am |
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is lobbing for you a good technique?like timo boll, lobbing with backhand and counter looping with forehand..that's awesome..
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If I can get a weaker smash I can often counter-loop...but if they smash to backhand I'm stuffed xD well, I could lob again and hope for the best but can't attack it.
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Posted: 12/05/2008 at 2:50pm |
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I love choppers and blockers, and I hate lobbers.
I hate them. |
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Posted: 12/05/2008 at 3:25pm |
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i'd rather block because if I lob, I'm toast for the next shot
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Posted: 12/05/2008 at 4:21pm |
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Then you need to play more against them. You are not alone - quite a few of my clubmates do much worse against lobs than against regular low-throw defense. If you show your opponents that you cannot handle lobs, they will use them more and more and you will end up losing to weaker players.
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Posted: 12/05/2008 at 4:49pm |
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I like lobbing at the club.. a while back i posted a thread about this seemiller style player who i was having trouble with. Then i watched a guy i can beat consistently, beat the seemiller player by just lobbing. The seemiller player cant put enough power into the ball to really make any consistent player miss a slam.. and i was just intimidated with the placement he brings. But then i started playing more mid distance and more safe because my footwork is good enough to deal with his placement on top of my own placement. I ended up on top.
so lobbing made me see through that guy lol.
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Posted: 12/05/2008 at 11:53pm |
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Lobbing is great. I use it quite regularly. Usually lobbing until one is smashed low enough to my backhand, and I punch it back with the BH for a winner.
Learn from Michael Maze. In his training video he tells you to lob as high as possible, and with as much topspin as possible. And it's amazing how he can consistently place the ball within the last 2 inches of the table, amazing. |
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Posted: 12/05/2008 at 11:59pm |
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Defensively lobbing keeps the point going till you can counter, use varying spin and spin rates just watchout for the drop :)
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 7:25am |
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Michael Maze, Saive, and Waldner sometimes lob very short balls....how do they pull it off?(do they do it against sucky players?) Coz they don't lob like that against everyone.
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 8:10am |
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what do you mean by short balls? like loops by opponents that dont penetrate and just fall short off the table?
i like them fishing |
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 12:24pm |
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lobbing is, for me, good as a last resort to win a point you have been outplayed in.
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 2:07pm |
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You train to lob the ball as deep as possible with lots of topspin or sidespin on it. Than it might be a good solution if you are forced to play a way from the table defensive. |
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 2:15pm |
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That is a very important point - your lob should be placed in the last few inches of the table (last foot, I'd say). Otherwise it is relatively easy for your opponent to either kill them or quickly push them sideways. Also if the lob comes into the first half of the table (the one closer to the net) then you can more or less easily smash it with side spin - that is almost impossible to retrieve when you are away from the table. |
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 2:22pm |
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It's not a good idea to lob too often with sidespin since that makes it easier for the opponent to smash/loop back in wider angles compared to lobbing with loads of topsin. |
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 2:24pm |
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Sidespin, however, often makes it more difficult for the other guy to smash the ball into your court
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 2:53pm |
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depends on skill level too (low-level players are bad at anticipating side-spin while advanced players can anticipate a side-spin lob fairly easily). By anticipating I refer to being able to time the stroke correctly despite the ball bouncing side ways from the side-spin. |
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Even for high level players it can still be hard... |
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 3:03pm |
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try watching Maze play, how often do you see him lobbing side spin? I can hardly remember a single side-spin lob and I watch him a lot... I'm not that crazy good and I still see a side spin lob as a free point. |
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 3:57pm |
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A lot of his lobs have topspin and sidespin. Mainly the sidespin is to control the ball is to get the ball on the table. Not as a weapon. Regular topspin lob deep is the the best. Bastian Steger uses a lot of sidespin on his lobs and they usually kill his lobs wide and out of his reach. |
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 5:03pm |
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If you lob closer to the net, it's very easy for the opponent to perform a short drop shot (eg. double bounce).
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 8:36pm |
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Exactly, if Maze is pushed out to a side then he has to use sidespin to just get it onto the table but it will get killed most of the time. |
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