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jhoerene
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I'm not sure if ITTF already banned this 2 rubbers or the the long pip only. I just want to know your inputs about this. Some people are saying that using this rubbers allow players to beat good players. I myself have a longpip but seldom use it since its not my style of play. |
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figgie
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Guess people don't get April Fools joke everywhere!!
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Wait Im' confused. I guess Im' an april fool!
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If they want to make more rules.....
Any service that is NOT done from the players backhand should be illegal.
There. I threw my hat into the mix. more l8r.
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theman
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i would laugh if they banned pips, no way in hell would i play ping pong again
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the_theologian
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i quit "ping pong" a long time ago
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Speedplay
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I sure do hope they decides to ban all pips and anti's, since they are all there to cover up a weakness for those who aren't skilled enough to develop proper strokes with inverted rubbers.
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the_theologian
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haha. i was reading this in my email and got half excited that some humorous controversy was going to break out... and then I noticed who the author was
(hey did you ever try H3 on a Wavestone like you mentioned at OOAK?)
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Speedplay
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Yepp, did get to try the H3 on the Wavestone, but only the regular version, not the national one =(
Still, the regular H3 did perform quite well on the Wavestone and if I hadn't found the joy of SGE rubbers, I would probably still be using H3. For sure, I wouldn't be using pips or anti as these rubbers are for the less gifted ones, don't you agree? |
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radical
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I think I remember reading on the internet that inverted was first used by players that could not compete with normal pips rubber and that the nature of inverted looping is that when you lack control the physics of the loop lets your shot still hit the table. |
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Speedplay
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I'm sure you are right since playing with pips/anti is so hard, I mean you really have to stick your bat in front of the ball and wait for things to happen. Must be a lot harder then playing with inverted and actually create something for your self. |
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radical
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Yeah, I have tried some times to not strike the ball when it comes my way but that doesn't work out so well. I used to play with inverted and sponge, but I felt so guilty because there was this "trampoline" effect when the ball would touch the bat. I didn't have to exert any effort at all. The other player was doing all the work. It didn't seem quite fair at all. |
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the_theologian
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I haven't really landed on what exactly I want on my Wavestone. But it might end up being a soft palio topsheet on quattro sponge.
You know I haven't got to play against long pips or anti... so I wouldn't know about those guys. ;)
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Speedplay
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Still haven't been around to play any of those cheaters? Well, you should be happy as it certainly isn't TT they are playing, at it's best, I would call it Ping Pong. A good recommendation for the Wavestone is Roxon 450, even though I'm currently use Donic Platin on it, and love it, I really must say that the 450 and Wavestone made a perfect blend with each other. Outstanding control along with massive speed and good speed, what more can you possible ask for from a bat??? |
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roundrobin
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Still haven't been around to play any of those cheaters? Well, you should be happy as it certainly isn't TT they are playing, at it's best, I would call it Ping Pong.
Ping-Pong is what we Chinese have been calling it for the past 100 years. And see how we've kicking Swede's "table tennis" players's ass for the past decade.
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the_theologian
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Nothing wrong with calling it ping pong (I sometimes do). But it serves as a distinction when people who don't really know the sport are scoffing at the idea of intense, athetic involvement in the game.
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the_theologian
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C'mon now. You don't expect me to believe you're getting that level of play from a 30 dollar blade do you? That's ridiculous! Many members of this forum will testify that I'm speaking the truth.
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roundrobin
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But it serves as a distinction when people who don't really know the sport are scoffing at the idea of intense, athetic involvement in the game.
Not in my native country, the undisputed powerhouse of this sport... We simply call it "Ping-Pong", and we are darn proud of it. We don't pretend it's some kind of "tennis" played on top of a table. If you want to play tennis, then play tennis.
By the way, "tennis" is called "net ball" or "mesh ball" in Asia, because of the strings used in the racket look like a net or mesh. "Table tennis" can never be called as such in Asia, because that would become "table mesh ball" which it's not. Some Western-influenced reporters are trying to call Ping-Pong as "table ball" instead, but again, it's not "table tennis".
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wturber
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That's sort of like "soccer" and "football." In the U.S. "football" means something quite different that it means in Europe, which is why we call it soccer. I'd expect that many people outside the U.S. look at what we call "football" and wonder how it came by that name since kicking the ball with your foot is such a small part of the game. |
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roundrobin
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That's sort of like "soccer" and "football." In the U.S. "football" means something quite different that it means in Europe, which is why we call it soccer. I'd expect that many people outside the U.S. look at what we call "football" and wonder how it came by that name since kicking the ball with your foot is such a small part of the game.
Well, I lived in Argentina for seven years, and I can safely say that the vast majority of people on this Earth call soccer "football" and "football" as some American oddity. Same thing with Ping-Pong. Some may prefer to call it "table tennis", which is perfectly fine in itself, but I do have a problem with some here who think Ping-Pong is a derogatory term for our sport. It is not, because China alone has twenty million Ping-Pong players, plus countless ethnic Chinese immigrants worldwide. The post by Speedplay is typical of such ignorant attitude and it's frankly, quite insulting to our Chinese culture. The world does not belong to Caucasians only. Not anymore. It's time to give some respect to us.
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abatardi
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Interesting post roundrobin.. I don't know why, as I have never known or been told otherwise, I just assumed that 'ping pong' WAS the more derogatory form of it... If I am speaking to older/more experienced/asian players about it I usually call it table tennis and not pong to prevent any 'hard feelings' or needing to be corrected... so I guess I will just refer to it as ping pong from now on always, if that is "correct". I just wasn't sure before, mainly because most of the 'authoratative bodies' like the ITTF, USATT, and CTTA all have "table tennis" in their names and not "ping pong".
I don't think assuming that caucasians referring to it as table tennis and thinking ping pong is derogatory are not giving respect to Chinese culture though... I think some (if not most) of us refer to it as table tennis for that reason -- assuming that 'ping pong' IS derogatory to Chinese culture and not vice versa. http://tabletennis.about.com/od/beginnersguide/f/tt_or_ping_pong.htm - Aaron |
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roundrobin
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Thank you for your intelligent post. Most Chinese and expats still call our beloved sport Ping-Pong, even by major news organizations to this day. We do know that some Western countries prefer to call it "table tennis" so we play along when we deal with the ITTF, etc. The famed "Ping-Pong Diplomacy" that opened China to the Western world was called exactly that, and not "Table Tennis Diplomacy". The name "Ping-Pong" is overwhelmingly positive for us. At our Los Angeles Table Tennis Asscociation with over three hundred active players, most of whom are of Chinese ethnicity, we never call it "table tennis" when we socialize, only Ping-Pong. We do have to call our club LATTA because we are an USATT affiliated club. Look at the "Canadian Chinese Table Tennis Association" banner on front page of Mytt.net, to the left hand side near the middle, for example. In Chinese characters it's written as "Canadian Chinese Ping-Pong Association." Same thing with the Canadian Chinese Table Tennis Federation" banner right under it. In Chinese it's spelled out as "Canadian Chinese Ping-Pong Federation".
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Very good to know! Thanks again for the info, as I said this was something I was never quite sure on so it's good to get an explanation from someone in the know.
- Aaron |
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Are you for real - since when did price have something to do with it's playing capabilities. I think you should think about how the company that sponsors the most players around the world gets to price it's goods. They have to find the money somehow. And I don't think that any table tennis company (pingpong) owns a FOREST ! |
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the_theologian
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No, I'm definitely not for real here (see my signature). I had just finished posting in this thread: http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25333
so the post you're quoting is actually me venting with sarcasm.
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Thank you, by the way, for chiming in with that. I'm getting chastised for comparing Dawei blades to BTY blades in the thread which I provided the link to (I'd actually be much appreciative if you gave it a read).
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the_theologian
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roundrobin,
Thank you so much for the insight. I'm grateful.
By the way, don't be too hard on speedplay, he's only been tongue-in-cheek during this thread.
-Nathan
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Speedplay
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ROFL! Obviously, in most cases you would be right, but pairing up a cheap blade with somewhat expensive rubbers like Roxon might make a perfect blend. Now, obviously any form of Tenergy is likely to be a lot better, but unfortunately, I haven't used them my self About China whopping our ass, about time you managed to do that, seeing how it is your national sport and the population should prevent you from ever losing against Sweden, still we managed to kick you around for a decade or so, by sending some alcoholic gambler to the table. Now imagine how good we could have been if we did sent our athletes instead? As far as the name goes, you guys can call it ping pong as much as you like, the game was developed by Englishmen (while in India, I believe) and they still call it table tennis and so will I. |
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I did read your post & agree with you 100%. I have a Bty gergerly, primorac carbon & manozov sitting in my blade box, although they are good blades, they are overpriced. |
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Then the Chinese are using a trademarked name and which is why all the governing bodies of the sport use Table Tennis instead of Ping Pong, such as ITTF or USATT and not IPPF or USAPP. Link to Wikipedia which has some of this history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_tennis
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