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Something I'd like to do more of once I get things going, called in an assist from Team England's Sam Walker to offer a couple of tips and some demonstration alongside my 4 tips! 


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Just in case any of you are struggling with the lazy bug :)


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Back to serves :P


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I haven't watched all the videos yet. I'm doing them slowly. But I just wanted to mention that the box analogy in the simple backspin serve video really helped me.

For my level, I think my serves are really effective for achieving what I'm after. But they've always sucked. Sucked in the sense that if you just isolate the serve by itself, there's nothing special about it.

I've also been trying to reach a higher level, and my current serves just don't cut it whenever I play against the better members of my local club.

I've been thinking about rebuilding my serves and these videos are helping a lot. Keep them up.
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There is so much to say about the mindset while serving, the 3rd ball killer instinct can make the difference even with a weak serve. I know that I too often do a great serve (thanks to those buckets of serves in my basement) but then I stay out and the rally really starts with the serve return. I need to commit more to the 3rd ball and be more aggressive with it but there is a caveat: If I do a GREAT serve and it comes back, it's a great return just like my serve: higher than my general level. 

So here is my observation: mickd is right because he has serves that integrate well with the rest of his game, there is harmony and everything improves together. 

Having great serves is great if we can back them up with a 3rd ball and the rest of same level, all on par with the serve quality. If that is not happening, great serves are an overkill that will weigh on our mental balance. The satisfaction of an ace followed the next point by a 4th ball kill counter loop is classical a scenario in the game of a player who allocated too much time to serves compared to other strokes.



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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

There is so much to say about the mindset while serving, the 3rd ball killer instinct can make the difference even with a weak serve. I know that I too often do a great serve (thanks to those buckets of serves in my basement) but then I stay out and the rally really starts with the serve return. I need to commit more to the 3rd ball and be more aggressive with it but there is a caveat: If I do a GREAT serve and it comes back, it's a great return just like my serve: higher than my general level. 

So here is my observation: mickd is right because he has serves that integrate well with the rest of his game, there is harmony and everything improves together. 

Having great serves is great if we can back them up with a 3rd ball and the rest of same level, all on par with the serve quality. If that is not happening, great serves are an overkill that will weigh on our mental balance. The satisfaction of an ace followed the next point by a 4th ball kill counter loop is classical a scenario in the game of a player who allocated too much time to serves compared to other strokes.


Same here, my serves are way above the rest of the game that I'm not actually dealing with the returns well against good receivers. 

But the idea is not to drop down the serving level, but to elevate the rest of my game to catch up Big smile
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Back to it. I'm posting 30 coaching tutorial videos in 30 days. Here is day 3 on the basic backhand banana flick!



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Day 4, switching sides to FH flick basics.

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Day 5 of 30, serve practice habit advice


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Day 4, switching sides to FH flick basics.


Thanks a lot for this! There's a lot of interesting advice to unpack there... Especially the part about relying more on the forearm rather than the wrist. Once I get to play again I'm gonna go practice this with a partner haha...
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:


Thanks a lot for this! There's a lot of interesting advice to unpack there... Especially the part about relying more on the forearm rather than the wrist. Once I get to play again I'm gonna go practice this with a partner haha...

I hope it's sooner rather than later, you must be absolutely itching to get back to it! Thanks buddy!
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Day 6 of 30, for this video I just wanted you to think more about how of big an impact a small change in serve placement can have on the receiver! :)


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Originally posted by PingPongPom PingPongPom wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:


Thanks a lot for this! There's a lot of interesting advice to unpack there... Especially the part about relying more on the forearm rather than the wrist. Once I get to play again I'm gonna go practice this with a partner haha...

I hope it's sooner rather than later, you must be absolutely itching to get back to it! Thanks buddy!

Yes, I'm really itching to play... I've in fact have almost completely overhauled my backhand topspin (through huge amounts of shadowing) to a superior movement, can't wait to test it out with real opponents! That and the FH flick which I was beginning to get a hang off before the virus incident...
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Day 7 looking at basics of opening vs. half long.


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Day 7 looking at basics of opening vs. half long.



The best way to damage your blade is to try to open against half-long serves Wink
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

The best way to damage your blade is to try to open against half-long serves Wink

The best way to damage your blade is to try and open against short serves that you think are half-long :P
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I still have a scar on my thumb from an injury half a year ago. I accidentally hit the corner of the table with my hand.
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Originally posted by mickd mickd wrote:

I still have a scar on my thumb from an injury half a year ago. I accidentally hit the corner of the table with my hand.

That's powerful imagery right there haha I've witnessed some shockers.
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Day 8, very simple topic today!

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Another day, another tutorial! :P


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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by PingPongPom PingPongPom wrote:

Day 7 looking at basics of opening vs. half long.



The best way to damage your blade is to try to open against half-long serves Wink
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It's a lot easier when you have a tacky rubber :) 
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

It's a lot easier when you have a tacky rubber :) 

Also very true haha. Here's another for today:


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Originally posted by PingPongPom PingPongPom wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

It's a lot easier when you have a tacky rubber :) 

Also very true haha. Here's another for today:



Yes, for a lefty that is often the most effective serve, the short sidetop serve to the FH... I would definitely flick it most of the time to your BH, but there are other variations like the sideswipe to go down the line...also it's definitely possible to push a sidetopspin serve using the chopblock movement...I've seen players able to push that serve short lol...
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by PingPongPom PingPongPom wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

It's a lot easier when you have a tacky rubber :) 

Also very true haha. Here's another for today:



Yes, for a lefty that is often the most effective serve, the short sidetop serve to the FH... I would definitely flick it most of the time to your BH, but there are other variations like the sideswipe to go down the line...also it's definitely possible to push a sidetopspin serve using the chopblock movement...I've seen players able to push that serve short lol...

I think that response kinda misses the whole point of the video.
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:



Yes, for a lefty that is often the most effective serve, the short sidetop serve to the FH... I would definitely flick it most of the time to your BH, but there are other variations like the sideswipe to go down the line...also it's definitely possible to push a sidetopspin serve using the chopblock movement...I've seen players able to push that serve short lol...
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Nobody has ever pushed that serve short and gotten away with it unless I have been asleep at the wheel :P

The general idea is that people are welcome to try and return the serve in other ways than how I expect them to return it, but it will require a much higher degree of skill and a lot more risk on their part. If I come across a rare individual who can short push my topspin serve then I will change to something else. The other 1000 players I meet I can use this :P
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Originally posted by PingPongPom PingPongPom wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:



Yes, for a lefty that is often the most effective serve, the short sidetop serve to the FH... I would definitely flick it most of the time to your BH, but there are other variations like the sideswipe to go down the line...also it's definitely possible to push a sidetopspin serve using the chopblock movement...I've seen players able to push that serve short lol...

Nobody has ever pushed that serve short and gotten away with it unless I have been asleep at the wheel :P

The general idea is that people are welcome to try and return the serve in other ways than how I expect them to return it, but it will require a much higher degree of skill and a lot more risk on their part. If I come across a rare individual who can short push my topspin serve then I will change to something else. The other 1000 players I meet I can use this :P
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Yeah agree with this... I do find that a lot of lefties abuse this serve to the max, even at the pro level! 
Im finding that the sideswipe is super underutilized, not sure why...it is quite an effective way to receive this serve!
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