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Originally posted by BeaverMD BeaverMD wrote:

So the CNT uses Butterfly SpinArt.  Good to know.

It might be similar like SpinArt, that's what I guess but not sure. One thing I'm sure is that the rubber for National Hurricane is not so sticky like SpinArt. The commercial Hurricane is very sticky, but the national one is not so stick like commercial.
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Not sure if you understand. Flash memory & solid state are way different stories.  There are so many companies compete and supply them. The competitor could buy them from anywhere. There are no real value in market recognition. There is also no good profit margin.
Different story. If you have sole proprietary in one product. It costs you $10 to make and you sell for $50. You are selling 500,000#/year. Would you sell this product 1000 units of even $100 a piece to B company? When B company uses your product as base and creates image of superior product. B also  uses your rebrand/modified product to boost sale of its sub-level in-house made. This in-house made is  taking away your main product sale at 100,000#/year.
You are making a good decision at $90x1000= $90,0000 gain and $40x100,000=$4,000,000 lost. 
 Smart move, CEO.  LOL
 
BTY is no dummy. So I would say OP's story is not real.
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Originally posted by aroonkl aroonkl wrote:

Don't want to get into this but really could not stand the thick head coming from a fantasy world.
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 ===If you work for an organization and order large quantity of Tenergy sponge from Butterfly, they will sell them to you. Butterfly just not sell Tenergy Sponge directly to individuals who wanna order cause the quantity individuals need is too small. There is no reason to say Butterfly is stupid cause they are doing their business with a country, which is more profitable than just sell one to two sheet of Tenergy to individuals. That is economic of scale.===

Do you know how much Tenergy will sell more if all CNTs use Tenergy? Do you really think Buttefly cares about making money from 1000 sponges/year to CNT team. 
What sale does it loose, as in the world stage CNTs are using H3 on FH to beat Tenergy players! 
May be loosing (or not gaining ) sale  100,000 sheets/year? 

It might be only your smart company who sell your Best Weapon for enemy to use against you. Clap

You tried to quote as business-wise "order large quantity" "economic of scale".  But commonsense is childish.


Hummm, without knowing too much fact about the Original topic myself, this particular argument is flawed though. Look no further than Samsung supplying apple with flash memory, or LG supplying apple with LCD screens for example of this kind of relationship.

Butterfly can charge as much as T05 for each sponge. Since Nat rubbers aren't a commercial product, cost and commercial viability isn't a concern for DHS.

Again, I'm not saying Timo Hu is right. I'm saying it's POSSIBLE that he is right, as opposed to your logic


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Originally posted by Timo Hu Timo Hu wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by Timo Hu Timo Hu wrote:


Actually it is very common in CNT to select their preferred rubber in top and then use another brand of sponge in the bottom. It is not illegal to do boosting independently from factory. Just like Wang Hao, his backhand use sriver's rubber in the top but Bryce sponge in the bottom. That's all specially designed for them.
 
It is not? Are you sure? ITTF specifically forbids any physical or chemical treatment outside of factory. Whether they can enforce it or not is a completely different issueConfused

I'm pretty sure CNT members' rubber sheet are combination. There must be some treaty available beyond the ITTF policy.
And again there is a question about exactly what constitutes a factory.  I'm sure I could technically claim an air factory here at my house.  DHS could claim a factory at the chinese national training center too, I suppose.
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Originally posted by Timo Hu Timo Hu wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by Timo Hu Timo Hu wrote:


Actually it is very common in CNT to select their preferred rubber in top and then use another brand of sponge in the bottom. It is not illegal to do boosting independently from factory. Just like Wang Hao, his backhand use sriver's rubber in the top but Bryce sponge in the bottom. That's all specially designed for them.
 
It is not? Are you sure? ITTF specifically forbids any physical or chemical treatment outside of factory. Whether they can enforce it or not is a completely different issueConfused

I'm pretty sure CNT members' rubber sheet are combination. There must be some treaty available beyond the ITTF policy.
 
Treaty LOL LMAO you crack me up Big smile
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Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

And again there is a question about exactly what constitutes a factory.  I'm sure I could technically claim an air factory here at my house.  DHS could claim a factory at the chinese national training center too, I suppose.
 
Of course your house is a factory, Cole. The only thing I like about these ITTF rules is they are very funny LOL 


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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by Timo Hu Timo Hu wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by Timo Hu Timo Hu wrote:


Actually it is very common in CNT to select their preferred rubber in top and then use another brand of sponge in the bottom. It is not illegal to do boosting independently from factory. Just like Wang Hao, his backhand use sriver's rubber in the top but Bryce sponge in the bottom. That's all specially designed for them.
 
It is not? Are you sure? ITTF specifically forbids any physical or chemical treatment outside of factory. Whether they can enforce it or not is a completely different issueConfused

I'm pretty sure CNT members' rubber sheet are combination. There must be some treaty available beyond the ITTF policy.
 
Treaty LOL LMAO you crack me up Big smile


h3 Topsheet +tenergy sponge wouldnt have the low arc of chinese rubber,besides tenergy sponge would make a loud cork when looping hard
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Originally posted by aroonkl aroonkl wrote:

Not sure if you understand. Flash memory & solid state are way different stories.  There are so many companies compete and supply them. The competitor could buy them from anywhere. There are no real value in market recognition. There is also no good profit margin.
Different story. If you have sole proprietary in one product. It costs you $10 to make and you sell for $50. You are selling 500,000#/year. Would you sell this product 1000 units of even $100 a piece to B company? When B company uses your product as base and creates image of superior product. B also  uses your rebrand/modified product to boost sale of its sub-level in-house made. This in-house made is  taking away your main product sale at 100,000#/year.
You are making a good decision at $90x1000= $90,0000 gain and $40x100,000=$4,000,000 lost. 
 Smart move, CEO.  LOL
 
BTY is no dummy. So I would say OP's story is not real.
 


If you don't like the flash and lcd analogy, how about google supplying Google Maps to iPhone Big smile

While Google might be a bit too generous IMO, I wouldnt mind doing sponge business if I know my sponge is not going to be used for a competing commercial product.

1. DHS did NOT create the image of a superior product as you claimed. Noone is going to dispute BTY superiority over DHS.

2. Rubber usage for CNT is NOT a free market system. The FH rubber IS going to be labeled DHS. If BTY does not supply the sponge, A competitor like ESN will. If ESN doesnt, they may try some inhouse sponge that comes close after boosted. No matter WHAT rubber the players end up using, it WILL sport a DHS <insert a current product here> logo to boost DHS sales. 

3. more to #3, I talked to a family whose kid in China played semi-professionally. The truth is, the majority of the kids, before making the provincial team, use T05!!!! So all of the sudden, as soon as they get selected into provincial, they all started using DHS?! talk about a BIG jump, very fishy!

4. If DHS have OHH SO GOOD rubber, why dont they sell it for, say $60? oh wait...



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You guys know what? I think it's perfectly legal to tune the crap out of a sponge, because it's not approved by ITTF. As long as you attach the top sheet afterwards w/o altering it physically or chemically, you're fine as only the top sheet gets approved by ITTF.
 
So that's how the Chinese dominate. Poor Europeans have been getting their Tenergies attached to a sponge they can't anything about them LOL
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I'm sure any upper level player sponsored by bfly can get their stuff customized.

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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

You guys know what? I think it's perfectly legal to tune the crap out of a sponge, because it's not approved by ITTF. As long as you attach the top sheet afterwards w/o altering it physically or chemically, you're fine as only the top sheet gets approved by ITTF.
 
So that's how the Chinese dominate. Poor Europeans have been getting their Tenergies attached to a sponge they can't anything about them LOL

i suport the idea of ESN sponges, a guy who sells equipment in china told me that the national team player with pips are using chinese topsheet with  german sponge,no need to boost
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I'm sure any upper level player sponsored by bfly can get their stuff customized.

 
LOL I was joking about that. Of course if Timo Boll wants his top sheet and sponge to come in separately he will get it...
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That would possibly explain ZJK loss..LOL If he started to rely on some air bubbles in a sponge instead of his physique then no wonder that lost his edge. 
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Lol, OP is really funny. I guess he will say i'm also green and don't know what i'm talking about....

Any ways, I know the Australia national player - who trained 2 months in a provincial team base in China in December 2013. He is personal friends many members of CNT junior team, including FZD. He would put his hands on Liu Guozheng's shoulder when taking photos - just to give you an idea of his "relationship" with CNT A and B team members and coaches.

Any ways, so FZD took both FH and BH rubbers off his blade after the SF (knowing he will not be playing in the final) and gave it to him. So some one now claims FZD is using commercial rubbers?

The claim about stock count and handing rubbers back is also not true.
I agree there is MANY different national rubbers and specific players ones have they names printed on. There is also many different sponge hardness and seriouly, a 36deg Tenergy rubber is way too soft for the FH.....

I think for the rest of the older members here will know who I am and my relationship with many provincial coaches in China. I don't need to say any more, I also waiting for this uncle's photo.
Then I will make sure I get a good friend of mine who was team mates (and good buddies) with Kong Linghui to verify this claim for us! Oh, btw this good friend of mine also have a few players in CNT B team (he is only provincial coach too), but his student must be using commerical versions too.


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OMG op plz stop giving me cancer, are you sure uncle isn't just the janitor for CNT?
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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Lol, OP is really funny. I guess he will say i'm also green and don't know what i'm talking about....

Any ways, I know the Australia national player - who trained 2 months in a provincial team base in China in December 2013. He is personal friends many members of CNT junior team, including FZD. He would put his hands on Liu Guozheng's shoulder when taking photos - just to give you an idea of his "relationship" with CNT A and B team members and coaches.

Any ways, so FZD took both FH and BH rubbers off his blade after the SF (knowing he will not be playing in the final) and gave it to him. So some one now claims FZD is using commercial rubbers?

The claim about stock count and handing rubbers back is also not true.
I agree there is MANY different national rubbers and specific players ones have they names printed on. There is also many different sponge hardness and seriouly, a 36deg Tenergy rubber is way too soft for the FH.....

I think for the rest of the older members here will know who I am and my relationship with many provincial coaches in China. I don't need to say any more, I also waiting for this uncle's photo.
Then I will make sure I get a good friend of mine who was team mates (and good buddies) with Kong Linghui to verify this claim for us! Oh, btw this good friend of mine also have a few players in CNT B team (he is only provincial coach too), but his student must be using commerical versions too.




Humm teammate with KLH and provincial coach... LOL you friend with wangtao?

Eitherway, please get to the bottom of this and post it here. I'm dying to know the real story!!!

So let me get this straight, both side of the argument agree that DHS NAT rubbers different from commercial version more fundamentally than the QA. They are completely different rubbers, correct?

I have also heard from multiple sources that NAT rubbers have topsheets that are not tacky. Could you verify that as well?
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Humm teammate with KLH and provincial coach... LOL you friend with wangtao?

Eitherway, please get to the bottom of this and post it here. I'm dying to know the real story!!!

So let me get this straight, both side of the argument agree that DHS NAT rubbers different from commercial version more fundamentally than the QA. They are completely different rubbers, correct?

I have also heard from multiple sources that NAT rubbers have topsheets that are not tacky. Could you verify that as well?


Heilongjiang provincial team mate - Ma Zhi Gang.

No doubt DHS national rubbers for national team members are specifically produced for each player - special hardness, tickness etc.
Top sheet as I understand is the same as commerical, just the best quality ones for national team.
Only special/differences is sponge.

Note - ITTF racket covering rules applies to top sheet and not sponge, only sponge related is 4mm rule and other than that, no illegal substance to be added after factor etc.

Regarding topsheet that are not tacky, this is new to me.


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Let me be the first to post pictures :)

Here is who I am talking about:
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Maybe can ask LGL directly too

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Maybe can ask Ma Lin?

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Maybe can ask the Super league players (he coaches for Guangdong ChenJing TTC too)

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BTW, thats all links to my Facebook page, nothing for me to hide
PS - he aint no uncle of mine, but someone I trust :)


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Not sure if you understand. Flash memory & solid state are way different stories.  There are so many companies compete and supply them. The competitor could buy them from anywhere. There are no real value in market recognition. There is also no good profit margin.
Different story. If you have sole proprietary in one product. It costs you $10 to make and you sell for $50. You are selling 500,000#/year. Would you sell this product 1000 units of even $100 a piece to B company? When B company uses your product as base and creates image of superior product. B also  uses your rebrand/modified product to boost sale of its sub-level in-house made. This in-house made is  taking away your main product sale at 100,000#/year.
You are making a good decision at $90x1000= $90,0000 gain and $40x100,000=$4,000,000 lost. 
 Smart move, CEO.  LOL
 
BTY is no dummy. So I would say OP's story is not real.
 
 

Google sells advertise. IPhone sells equipments. What is your analogy? They are not direct competitors.
If making $90,000 while loosing $4,000,000  wouldn't mind you. Lucky to your employees or company if you have one. With your vision, they most likely have gray future.
If you don't like the flash and lcd analogy, how about google supplying Google Maps to iPhone Big smile

While Google might be a bit too generous IMO, I wouldnt mind doing sponge business if I know my sponge is not going to be used for a competing commercial product.

Wow. That is new to me. Bow to you with your inside info.
This one I would not even debate the truth. I rather question IQs of the repeater.
Most kids in China play T05 and change to DHS when they make to prov team. LOL

3. more to #3, I talked to a family whose kid in China played semi-professionally. The truth is, the majority of the kids, before making the provincial team, use T05!!!! So all of the sudden, as soon as they get selected into provincial, they all started using DHS?! talk about a BIG jump, very fishy!

4. If DHS have OHH SO GOOD rubber, why dont they sell it for, say $60? oh wait...





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This thread is such a joke.  While I partially agreed with the OP's claim that National Version of DHS Hurricane 3 are mostly fake, but the rest of his claims are just ludicrous.  The OP obviously doesn't know the truth about the rubbers CNT members are using.  He's just here to spread rumors. 

CNT members have some of the most powerful FH in the world, this is a result of their training and the rubber they are using.  Can you say the same for the Butterfly sponsored players?  Why can't Butterfly make a rubber like H3?  Oh you say SpinArt, who's using it professionally?  Frankly you don't even need to look at the CNT members, you can go to clubs in China and you will meet provincial players all the time.  These are semi-pros and guess what, most of them are using H3 BS and the sponge is not pored.   

And I believe DistantStar's comment, "Noone is going to dispute BTY superiority over DHS." is a simple over generalization.  What is this superiority on?  Revenue?  Product quality?  Volume?  Management?  Do you have data to prove that?  And don't give me "I heard from such such who is professional in China", lots of people can claim that.  I know families in China too who have ties to CNT but that doesn't mean they know more than other folks in this internet age. 
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T05 on top, H3 National BS on bottom (trust me, this is not commerical)


edit - photo removed!
btw, this was photo of FZD's rubber - guess he is in trouble with the stock counter


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T05 on top, H3 National BS on bottom (trust me, this is not commerical)



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My friend's mother's sister in law's 2nd cousin twice removed has a housekeeper that is the niece of a CNT's head shoe string assistant.    That assistant said he has a secret recording of a head coach and several players talking about how they will use Mizuno uppers with Asics soles to get the upper hand in the recent WTTC in Japan.  

No wonder the CNT won both men's and women's divisions.  Such support with unreal grip and forgiveness in such a combo shoe is a trade secret for the CNT. 

But you didnt hear that from me...............Cool

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pics or i am ma long's long lost brother

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what does that suppose to mean?


It's a fuzzy (and the most "infamous") picture of bigfoot. Your image wasn't too clear and this whole thread is a wild goose chase for something that probably doesn't exist, just like bigfoot.
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Originally posted by channyboi channyboi wrote:

OMG op plz stop giving me cancer, are you sure uncle isn't just the janitor for CNT?

What I'm sure is that your uncle is just a janitor for Australian elementary school team....lol
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Originally posted by Timo Hu Timo Hu wrote:

Originally posted by channyboi channyboi wrote:

OMG op plz stop giving me cancer, are you sure uncle isn't just the janitor for CNT?

What I'm sure is that your uncle is just a janitor for Australian elementary school team....lol

"Timo", you sound like a 15 year old kid who doesn't know better. Please, just stop and save your face, at least what's left of it. As an Asian, I am sure you understand. Wink


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Very nice to know. Thanks for sharing.
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Lol, OP is really funny. I guess he will say i'm also green and don't know what i'm talking about....

Any ways, I know the Australia national player - who trained 2 months in a provincial team base in China in December 2013. He is personal friends many members of CNT junior team, including FZD. He would put his hands on Liu Guozheng's shoulder when taking photos - just to give you an idea of his "relationship" with CNT A and B team members and coaches.

Any ways, so FZD took both FH and BH rubbers off his blade after the SF (knowing he will not be playing in the final) and gave it to him. So some one now claims FZD is using commercial rubbers?

The claim about stock count and handing rubbers back is also not true.
I agree there is MANY different national rubbers and specific players ones have they names printed on. There is also many different sponge hardness and seriouly, a 36deg Tenergy rubber is way too soft for the FH.....

I think for the rest of the older members here will know who I am and my relationship with many provincial coaches in China. I don't need to say any more, I also waiting for this uncle's photo.
Then I will make sure I get a good friend of mine who was team mates (and good buddies) with Kong Linghui to verify this claim for us! Oh, btw this good friend of mine also have a few players in CNT B team (he is only provincial coach too), but his student must be using commerical versions too.




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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Lol, OP is really funny. I guess he will say i'm also green and don't know what i'm talking about....

Any ways, I know the Australia national player - who trained 2 months in a provincial team base in China in December 2013. He is personal friends many members of CNT junior team, including FZD. He would put his hands on Liu Guozheng's shoulder when taking photos - just to give you an idea of his "relationship" with CNT A and B team members and coaches.

Any ways, so FZD took both FH and BH rubbers off his blade after the SF (knowing he will not be playing in the final) and gave it to him. So some one now claims FZD is using commercial rubbers?

The claim about stock count and handing rubbers back is also not true.
I agree there is MANY different national rubbers and specific players ones have they names printed on. There is also many different sponge hardness and seriouly, a 36deg Tenergy rubber is way too soft for the FH.....

I think for the rest of the older members here will know who I am and my relationship with many provincial coaches in China. I don't need to say any more, I also waiting for this uncle's photo.
Then I will make sure I get a good friend of mine who was team mates (and good buddies) with Kong Linghui to verify this claim for us! Oh, btw this good friend of mine also have a few players in CNT B team (he is only provincial coach too), but his student must be using commerical versions too.



Yup, we have the same Australian National team friend that we're talking about don't we Tony Wink It's just this whole forum has so many sources of information while the only source Timo Hu has is an uncle... pretty outrageous claims.
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