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Which one is worth getting and will serve a better blade in the long run?
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Originally posted by roypnoy roypnoy wrote:

Which one is worth getting and will serve a better blade in the long run?

Both are great blades, Ludeack pairs better with most rubbers and is fast enough to help you easily play upto USATT 2500, if I am not wrong sampson dubina uses it as well.
Virtuoso on the other hand is great control blade but on occasions off- lacks some speed.

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These 2 blades are on opposite ends of the wood blade spectrum. Ludeak is fast stiff 7 ply. Virtuoso Off- is medium fast flexible 5 ply.
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These 2 blades are on opposite ends of the wood blade spectrum. Ludeak is fast stiff 7 ply. Virtuoso Off- is medium fast flexible 5 ply.


Any thoughts on what type of rubber works best on a medium fast flexible 5 ply blade like the Virtuoso?
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Man, virtuoso is one expensive limba blade. I jumped for it a few years ago, got disapointed and sold it. Too much vibration. Beautiful, yes, but you really need to put a lot focus on aesthetics such a price for a simple 5 ply limba blade. 
All rubbers work well on this blade, don't worry about rubbers, I had tenergy 05 and rhyzm and both provide very deep sink in the sponge and easy looping. I owned a lot of limba blades and this is just a pretty, overpriced Primorac. Primorac is a good looking blade itself, you are much better off buying that one instead. They play exactly the same and Primo will be easy to resell (butterfly) without significant loss. 
Ludeack has no vibration but .. control is OK but not comparable to BTY blades. The price howeve IS, and that is the problem. 
In my personal opinion, Butterfly blades despite being expensive, offer better value that Nittaku or OSP. 
If you really want a limba blade get anything from Innerforce line. Same nice feel, medium speed, but more stable in the control department.
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If it makes a difference to you the Virtuoso is made is a bunch of different handle shapes, or custom handle for extra 10 euro.  I'm thinking of ordering one for that reason, but can't tell which handle will fit the best without a set of them to test.  
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If you like Limba blades, you should check out these blades.  I am thinking about getting one myself :).
 
 
 
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Originally posted by roypnoy roypnoy wrote:

Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

These 2 blades are on opposite ends of the wood blade spectrum. Ludeak is fast stiff 7 ply. Virtuoso Off- is medium fast flexible 5 ply.


Any thoughts on what type of rubber works best on a medium fast flexible 5 ply blade like the Virtuoso?

It depends on your preference and style of play. That is a fairly versatile blade, so it will go well with many rubbers. If you prefer big arm swings and play away from the table, then something soft and fast will work well like Bluefire M2 or 3 or T64. But that kind of setup can get mushy at times close to the table, so if you prefer to stay close to the table and want more direct shots (you want the ball to get off your racket fast), go for something harder. Its a spin monster and can have a high throw angle at times, so that's another thing to consider.
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Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

Originally posted by roypnoy roypnoy wrote:

Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

These 2 blades are on opposite ends of the wood blade spectrum. Ludeak is fast stiff 7 ply. Virtuoso Off- is medium fast flexible 5 ply.


Any thoughts on what type of rubber works best on a medium fast flexible 5 ply blade like the Virtuoso?

It depends on your preference and style of play. That is a fairly versatile blade, so it will go well with many rubbers. If you prefer big arm swings and play away from the table, then something soft and fast will work well like Bluefire M2 or 3 or T64. But that kind of setup can get mushy at times close to the table, so if you prefer to stay close to the table and want more direct shots (you want the ball to get off your racket fast), go for something harder. Its a spin monster and can have a high throw angle at times, so that's another thing to consider.

LOOPMEISTER,

What do you think about this rubber combo with the OSP Virtuoso?

F/H:  Air Scirocco SF 38deg (1.8 or 2.0) or Dawei Inspirit Quattro 40 deg (1.8 or 2.0)
B/H:  Air Illumina Alpha Plus 35deg (1.8 or 2.0)

F/H:  Yinhe Big Dipper
B/H:  Yinhe Saturn Pro
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Any good rubber will play relatively well in any popular blade. The only way to know whether you in particular enjoy playing with the combo is to test it.   I have used Big Dipper on limba and koto routers and liked it each time.
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Originally posted by roypnoy roypnoy wrote:

LOOPMEISTER,

What do you think about this rubber combo with the OSP Virtuoso?

F/H:  Air Scirocco SF 38deg (1.8 or 2.0) or Dawei Inspirit Quattro 40 deg (1.8 or 2.0)
B/H:  Air Illumina Alpha Plus 35deg (1.8 or 2.0)

F/H:  Yinhe Big Dipper
B/H:  Yinhe Saturn Pro

I've only tried Inspirit Quattro that I can remember, but I think those will be good on the Virtuoso.

I don't know your style or level, but if you are not a beginner, you will probably want the thicker and harder versions of those rubbers, and they will probably need to be reglued with rubber cement (or tuned) at least once every 2 weeks, IMO, to get top performance on that blade. If you are a beginner, or if you are the kind of player who can kick ass with any racket you pick up, then you will be fine with any thickness and without regluing. (But then you wouldn't be asking for advice on a forum in that case LOL.) The reason is, with those old-school rubbers which are soft and bouncy (and can be on the slow/sluggish side without "regluing" regularly), a Virtuoso can easily turn into a marshmellow... It might still have power with a big swing, but unless you're a flat hitter, the ball will take forever to get off your racket... The wrong harmony for setup, IMO.




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