Black rubber sheet is so much better than Red?
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Topic: Black rubber sheet is so much better than Red?
Posted By: phrixion
Subject: Black rubber sheet is so much better than Red?
Date Posted: 04/05/2007 at 2:51pm
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I bought two LKT Pro sheets and the black is great. Still tacky and real responsive. The red sheet however has lost most of its grip/tackiness. Anyone else see the same thing?
------------- Blade: Whatever is close Rubber Sheet: Whatever still has some grip. |
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Posted By: sunflex
Date Posted: 04/05/2007 at 3:19pm
| I found my red rubbers all les durable because i think they are more difficult to clean |
Posted By: phrixion
Date Posted: 04/05/2007 at 3:52pm
That is exactly what I am experiencing, thanks. ------------- Blade: Whatever is close Rubber Sheet: Whatever still has some grip. |
sunflex wrote:Posted By: hieupham
Date Posted: 04/05/2007 at 4:04pm
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I would agree with u guys, but only on Chinese rubber. My red Sriver that I ve kept for almost 2 years, still has some gripness on it, and I just recently applied EE2 on it, see if the rubber can revive. ------------- DHS Hurricane King FL FH: B. Hurricane 3 2.2mm BH: R. Sriver EL 2.1 |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 04/05/2007 at 7:58pm
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Yes, for all chinese rubbers the black is tackier than the red... it's related to the manufacturing process. Since most non-chinese rubbers are non-tacky to begin with, the effect is usually not noticable...
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Posted By: Skippy
Date Posted: 04/05/2007 at 9:19pm
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I had always thought that the black was simply softer than the red, so it was less grippy because of mechanical reasons. I have never noticed that it was harder to keep a red side clean as compared to a black side. What are you cleaning with? ------------- Xiom Zetro Quad FH: Andro Hexer Max BH: Xiom Euro Vega Max |
Posted By: sunflex
Date Posted: 04/06/2007 at 5:30am
| I'm cleaning my rubbers with water |
Posted By: phrixion
Date Posted: 04/06/2007 at 10:58am
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a leather chamois and typical TT foam cleaner here.
------------- Blade: Whatever is close Rubber Sheet: Whatever still has some grip. |
Posted By: reachie85
Date Posted: 04/07/2007 at 4:31am
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my red 729 classic tacky rubber has lasted me for over a year now, still flypaper sticky, my dad's red 729 classic tacky rubber has lasted him over 10 years, of course there are dead spots on his rubber along the edges where the protective cover don't rid the air bubbles effectively, but it's still very sticky, and easy to graze loop with. we both use water to clean.
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Posted By: TT_Freak
Date Posted: 04/07/2007 at 9:48am
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The red dye they use alters the properties slightly, hence the reduced tackiness.
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Posted By: Adib
Date Posted: 04/07/2007 at 10:51am
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My red H3 provicial more tacky than Black ------------- Blade:Nittaku Rorin 9mm,Xiom RSM Gold,TSP YAMATO-K 10.5mm Rubber:Black 38 degree Hurricane 3 Provincial |
Posted By: TT_Freak
Date Posted: 04/07/2007 at 11:30am
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Provincial for a reason.
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Posted By: dinchu
Date Posted: 04/08/2007 at 2:12am
| people create many myths and i guess this is one of then until someone shows to everyone in a scientific way that is true |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/08/2007 at 2:18am
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chinese red rubbers are faster and harder than black ones but are less tacky ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Pip Master
Date Posted: 04/08/2007 at 10:04am
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For the unpteenth time, this only applies to chinese rubber sheets, european sheets offer no differences whatsoever. in fact, in some cases, the ed sheet is more durable than the black one, the classic example being Stiga Mendo MP.
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Posted By: Thaidog
Date Posted: 04/08/2007 at 7:46pm
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There is a scientific reason that deals with the manufacturing process that makes the black more tacky than the red. I can't remember exactly but I think it was to deal with the about of phosphorus in the red rubber that keeps the tackiness level down a bit. The chemical composition of black vs red rubbers are different due to the color. That makes the difference. It could possibly be countered through a better manufacturing process, still the rubbers are not exactly the same so there will always be a little difference between any 2 tacky sheets. Euro rubbers don't count because they are not manufactured to be tacky.
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Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 04/09/2007 at 9:36am
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what about japenese rubbers ------------- Kreanga Aeros ST FH: Tenergy 05 Red 2.1 BH: Flarestorm II Black 2.1 |
Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 04/09/2007 at 10:56am
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The black mambo (not grippy at all) is much better than the red one.. like one out of three red ones click, but all the black has a huge click.. Same goes with the samba.. ------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0 |
Posted By: Pip Master
Date Posted: 04/09/2007 at 3:00pm
Japanese and euro rubbers are the same. ------------- Blade:Yasaka Gatien Extra 3D FH: Mendo MP BH: Sriver EL |