New BTY blades: Photino, Viscaria Light, etc
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Topic: New BTY blades: Photino, Viscaria Light, etc
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Subject: New BTY blades: Photino, Viscaria Light, etc
Date Posted: 04/15/2007 at 11:43am
 Photino has 2 layers of Zylon, just like Nittaku Tremendous.    |
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Posted By: timd
Date Posted: 04/16/2007 at 12:02am
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Some excerpts from an interview with Butterfly material expert Taisei Imamura in the Butterfly news letter http://butterfly.tamasu.org/newsletter/butterfly-news.pdf - http://butterfly.tamasu.org/newsletter/butterfly-news.pdf
Photino OFF starts with a selling price of 129,90 Euros, which may well be called exclusive. What decides the price of the optically exceptional PHOTINO OFF? The yellow-blue design hints at a professional conclusion.
Indeed, the design of our new PHOTINO OFF is impressive for a tabletennis blade. Professionals worked with it. This is of course not the most decisive factor about a top class blade. No, we have built in a new material: Zylon. That is a new element comparable with carbon and arylate. It is used for example for the production of very light gun proof vests. Zylon has two abilities: it is very light and simultaneously very hard. Our Japanese contract player, Jun Mizutani, became Japanese Single Champion with it. So it is a blade of a new generation? You can say so, because it is destined for the time after fresh gluing. The players need harder blades in connection with new rubbers like our new rubber SOLICION, to keep the speed. Very interesting are definitely the two new KISO HINOKI Blades V andVll. What is so special about them? It is the Hinoki � wood of the Japanese Kiso Cypress. Kiso is a Japanese region, where only this type of cypress is growing. The trees must be at least 300 years old. The Hinoki wood of this Kiso cypress is not too hard and at the same time very light. The result is the typical HINOKI feeling. The best middle layers are being used for our one layer penholder HINOKI models. The use of Hinoki veneers has a special tradition at Butterfly. Players, who are looking for light, strong blade with a lot of feeling, will be over the moon. The difference between the five layered KISO HINOKI V OFF- and the seven layered KISO HINOKI Vll OFF is the speed. The model with seven layers is a bit faster. |
Posted By: Ksix
Date Posted: 04/16/2007 at 12:35am
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no new klasik defensik blades? :(
butterfly is breaking my balls... ------------- わが青春に悔なし |
Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 04/16/2007 at 11:50am
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So, anybody has used this blades with zylon material ?
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
Posted By: mdjenders
Date Posted: 04/16/2007 at 12:02pm
What an awesome quote from an official Butterfly newsletter  ! Clearly the sheer awesomeness of the combination of the colors yellow and blue is the mark of professional quality. The "optically exceptional-ness" of this blade alone is clearly worth at least $100 for any serious player  . |
timd wrote:Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 04/16/2007 at 12:36pm
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i am still waiting for my mizutani special which has zylon in it.i think it is like a m. maze with zylon instead of arylate/carbon. ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: MildSeven
Date Posted: 04/16/2007 at 9:58pm
| can anyone verify if the specs of viscaria light are identical (other than weight) to the old model? I think the blade thickness is different and much thicker than the old one, but im not sure |
Posted By: KongLinghuiSP
Date Posted: 04/16/2007 at 11:28pm
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Viscaria light is 3-ply wood, 2-ply arylate carbon, the old viscaria is 5-ply wood, 2-ply arylate carbon ------------- Spin the ball, Damn it! Buy/Sell Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77237&title=feedback-konglinghuisp |
Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 04/17/2007 at 9:38am
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bty needs to make more cpens and defensive blades
bty is also breaking my balls ------------- Kreanga Aeros ST FH: Tenergy 05 Red 2.1 BH: Flarestorm II Black 2.1 |
Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 04/19/2007 at 11:11pm
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just noticed those hinoki blades say made in china on them ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: KongLinghuiSP
Date Posted: 04/23/2007 at 6:12pm
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the Photino has arrived this morning, haven't tried it yet as it is for a friend, not myself. but i have to say, butterfly have outdone itself yet again, the made quality is perfect. the whole thing is made beautifully. ------------- Spin the ball, Damn it! Buy/Sell Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77237&title=feedback-konglinghuisp |
Posted By: Madbrazilian
Date Posted: 04/23/2007 at 7:57pm
where did you buy photino? ------------- Killerspin Diamond TX ST Killerspin Forza 4z 2.1 both sides |
Posted By: KongLinghuiSP
Date Posted: 04/23/2007 at 10:40pm
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i bought it from iruiru.com for 12000yen ------------- Spin the ball, Damn it! Buy/Sell Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77237&title=feedback-konglinghuisp |
Posted By: Madbrazilian
Date Posted: 04/23/2007 at 10:49pm
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oh, can you only buy it from japanese version of website? I can't find it under iruiru/e (oh well....I'm buying an ishlion anyways). Still, please give us your comments.
------------- Killerspin Diamond TX ST Killerspin Forza 4z 2.1 both sides |
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 04/23/2007 at 11:32pm
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Posted By: KongLinghuiSP
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 12:21am
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you can buy the stuff they don't have at their english site, here is what you do: order what you can from their english site, then at the checkout section, there is a space provided for you to write down comment, in there you can write down what you want out of their japanese site, simple!!
i bought a lot of other stuff along with the photino, the total package is 1.5kg, shipping cost is 3600yen. i think when buying from iruiru.com, you need to buy a lot to save on shipping. in my case, i am buying for 6 people, and they pay 600yen each, which is quite cheap. ------------- Spin the ball, Damn it! Buy/Sell Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77237&title=feedback-konglinghuisp |
Posted By: Ksix
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 1:25am
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I highly HIGHLY doubt that more colorful blade will help you improve your game. ;p ------------- わが青春に悔なし |
Posted By: mdjenders
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 2:00am
 Wrong!!! As Butterfly said, "The yellow-blue design hints at a professional conclusion".
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Posted By: fatcomet
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 3:07am
 OH DEAR~ IS DAT SUM PROFESSIONAL CONCLUSION??? (good eye silvalis, good work PrinsScrn) |
Posted By: Ksix
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 9:30am
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lol. ------------- わが青春に悔なし |
Posted By: mdjenders
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 2:00pm
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There you go. Soon, all players will be using the powerful yellow/blue technology! By the way, that Kappa Hong Kong tt shirt is pretty nice looking. I would like to get one of those. |
Posted By: Ksix
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 7:17pm
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Yes that shirt also hints at a professional conclusion. Im sure my rating will go up to 3000 when I put it on ... ------------- わが青春に悔なし |
Posted By: Madbrazilian
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 8:11pm
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have you gotten to try it yet? This blade uses zylon, not ULC, so the playing characteristics won't be anything like KC or Ishlion, it'll be like a TBS or viscaria?
------------- Killerspin Diamond TX ST Killerspin Forza 4z 2.1 both sides |
Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 10:01pm
hahahah this is hilarious ------------- Kreanga Aeros ST FH: Tenergy 05 Red 2.1 BH: Flarestorm II Black 2.1 |
Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 04/24/2007 at 11:52pm
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I am going to paint my kim taek soo blue and yellow ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: mdjenders
Date Posted: 04/25/2007 at 12:39am
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Yes. Good move. That would hint at a professional conclusion. Just the blue and yellow color combo would get you at least 4 points per game.... against professionals. On a more serious note, to whomever has this Photino, do tell us how it plays and how it compares to blades like KC/Ishlion or the Arylate Carbons. We know it is "optically exceptional", but does it play exceptionally? |
Posted By: WALDNERSENSO
Date Posted: 04/30/2007 at 8:47am
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Anyone have a photino blade? it�s fast ? soft or hard? it�s good? thank�s ------------- Donic Waldner dotec Hinoki blade Sriver El Sriver Fx |
Posted By: KongLinghuiSP
Date Posted: 04/30/2007 at 5:23pm
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i tried the photino i got for my friend briefly, with bryce fx and sriver fx. my thought is it feels like just another carbon blade, but lighter. ------------- Spin the ball, Damn it! Buy/Sell Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77237&title=feedback-konglinghuisp |
Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 11:20am
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If anyone is gonna buy this blade, don't forget to take a few snapshots for us! |
Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 11:22am
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dos anyone no how to order off of iruru to ship to PA? ------------- Kreanga Aeros ST FH: Tenergy 05 Red 2.1 BH: Flarestorm II Black 2.1 |
Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 11:30am
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just got my mizutani pro with zylon.I have 2.0 optimum mp on both sides.The blade is 7 ply with a limba outer.It is fast but controlable.reminds me of a m. maze blade but quite a bit faster not for sure if it is the zylon or if the wood plies are the same.but it appears to be a maze with zylon instead of arylate carbon.It has enough contol close to the table,nothing to write home about but not uncontrolable like some compostite blades.I really plays great at mid distance and loops with the best of them.The zylon appears to be yellow and blue in color which may explain the coloring on the photino.when i ordered this blade b fly used the word pro fiber instead of zylon but i guess it is one in the same. ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: Ksix
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 11:47am
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Sounds like another desperate attempt to make $. ------------- わが青春に悔なし |
BTY blades just keep getting more and more expensive yet their quality isnt getting any better. Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 11:52am
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oh the mizutani blade i have sitting here is actually a better build than my acoustic or h. king i had ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 11:55am
 ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 11:56am
 ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 12:01pm
 ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 12:08pm
It better be, for the price you paid  |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 12:09pm
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Oh..yeah..it's NICE. It's a ST. handle..I'm sure Mr. Kong LingHui Sp. of NZ is gonna drool all over this sweet thing... ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 12:09pm
| Ryno, it looks absolutely delicious! btw you also ordered a Photino right? |
Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 12:15pm
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I haven't ordered a photino yet but one of my training partners has.I will play against him on friday.I will try to play with it a little and give some feedback ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 12:17pm
Would you mind asking him if you could take a few pics? 
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Posted By: powerplay.de
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 4:23pm
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well, it looks like Maze Off. Is it a arylate-carbon or a carbon layer? ------------- BT777, Ishlion, U2 Hinoki, Baum Senso, TBS T05 T05 |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 4:24pm
It's ZYLON, Sir...Zylon.... ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 6:37pm
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thats an awsome blade ------------- Kreanga Aeros ST FH: Tenergy 05 Red 2.1 BH: Flarestorm II Black 2.1 |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 7:18pm
------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: mdjenders
Date Posted: 05/01/2007 at 10:57pm
| WOW at that Mizutani Special! Now that is a blade that hints at a professional conclusion. It even has the special yellow-blue color combo in the zylon. Awesome. |
Posted By: Ksix
Date Posted: 05/02/2007 at 12:53am
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yep $190 professional conclusion lol ------------- わが青春に悔なし |
Posted By: powerplay.de
Date Posted: 05/02/2007 at 7:24am
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@tiehwen you are right. I didnt read the earlier post. My mistake. ------------- BT777, Ishlion, U2 Hinoki, Baum Senso, TBS T05 T05 |
Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 05/02/2007 at 9:26am
hahaha thats not me thank god it is a joke =] ------------- Kreanga Aeros ST FH: Tenergy 05 Red 2.1 BH: Flarestorm II Black 2.1 |
Posted By: Ksix
Date Posted: 05/02/2007 at 10:12am
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haha it's not? i was about to take a pic of myself making a face like that and put it up...:/ ------------- わが青春に悔なし |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 05/02/2007 at 10:26am
Of couse, it's not u, phew!...otherwise..u needed help 'cuz. u looked so, so pissed n dangerously LETHAL!  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 05/02/2007 at 11:50am
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well lets all do it of our selves then hahahah =] ------------- Kreanga Aeros ST FH: Tenergy 05 Red 2.1 BH: Flarestorm II Black 2.1 |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 05/03/2007 at 10:30am
Ryno, may I remind u to clear ur inbox, please! Thanks. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 05/03/2007 at 11:00am
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clear ------------- Red Label Kim Taek Soo (83g) Almana Sound Synergy Tech (max) |
Posted By: Topspinmaster
Date Posted: 05/05/2007 at 12:47pm
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where can i buy MS? i really want to hae it ------------- My dream is to be the best TT-Player in the world My hp: http://ttunderground.ning.com |
Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 05/06/2007 at 12:42am
You can send an e-mail to M/s Suzuki at [email protected] and she will tell you what to do. She is very helpfull.
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 05/07/2007 at 11:03am
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Just got an email from Ms. Suzuki. This particular blade only comes w/ST handle, it is 25000 yen +shipping = 28600 yen = 240.00 USD +/-. (custom and taxes excl.) Is it worth it? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 05/13/2007 at 6:28am
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I've got 88 gr photino yesterday. I use Sriver D-13-L on Backhand and Sriver EL on backhand. The feeling is harder than Arylate but softer than Carbon. It has preety good control. But I haven't use it with softer rubber such as Sriver FX, F1. For me Sriver D-13-L on photino already soft which if I use it on Ishilon it has much more harder feeling. I don't glue anymore, for players who glue may try this blade. The feeling of this blade is like gluing. ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: serghinio
Date Posted: 05/15/2007 at 10:41am
| How much does it take to receive an order from iruiru.com placed in europe for example? |