tackiest chinese rubber?
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Topic: tackiest chinese rubber?
Posted By: theman
Subject: tackiest chinese rubber?
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 1:12am
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wats a good tacky chinese, need to replace my euro rubber, not used to it.
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Posted By: mece
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 1:14am
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perhaps cream with jap sponge?
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Posted By: azrin
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 2:13am
| 729 wang nan sp |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 2:56am
Good for what? Looping, blocking, serving, etc? Fast or slow? ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
theman wrote:Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 3:02am
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looping and serving. medium quickness
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 9:15am
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hurricane 2/3, wang nan sp, globe 999, pf4 (original predecessor), ritc 729, ritc 729 super fx, jianmei 999.. if you clean them and cover them with plastic after playing in a few months they will be very very sticky and spinny
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Posted By: vmajor
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 11:36am
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I just replaced my DHS Hurricane 2 2.2mm with Andro Plasma 430 max and I get more spin. The Plasma is slightly less tacky (not by much) but without gluing, Plasma produces much more spin than the H2 with my technique. H2 is still a very nice rubber, but with my technique and without glue I did not get as much top spin as I would have liked. ------------- Andro Blax OFF FH: Andro Plasma 430 max BH: Andro Plasma 430 2.0 |
Posted By: creeder06
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 11:55am
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friendship makes this rubber i think it is the 729 sp or something but it is older super hard sponge but it looks like it has glue on the top sheet it is so tacky ------------- if table tennis is to sports, what star wars is to movies, then you must be chewbacca. |
Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 1:40pm
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SP gets my vote, and on the right sponge you can develop good speed with it too. If you are replacing a Euro rubber and have strokes adapted to Euro rubbers, Inspirit or Zap might be a better bet. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34kRbLNCcpk" rel="nofollow - Fred 49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve |
Posted By: sjasi1982m
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 2:29pm
| Xushaofa 999 is very tacky and spinny, however it is a little slow and heavy, so you wold need to glue, but other than that, it's a very good rubber. |
Posted By: ProfessorChaos
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 3:00pm
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729 Cream on MRS?
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Posted By: lilactime031
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 4:22pm
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allthough i am the distributor of Dawei and Galaxy for my country, i have to say that SP is the best from Dawei i will choose Sprungfeder G3 A4 and from Galaxy the Earth (very new) ------------- e-pingpongshop |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 8:20pm
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SP is certainly very tacky, but the sponge is a little hard for looping UNLESS you glue it up.
I agree the Sprung is great for looping, but not really tacky which is what he asked for.
Can you tell us a little more about Galaxy Earth? ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: O! Ju Qian
Date Posted: 06/18/2007 at 8:24pm
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haggisv do you still have more 999 nat? ------------- BL: Yasaka Extra Offensive CP FH: Hurricane 3 Pro BH: Tenergy 05 "Practice is USELESS if you don't understand what you are doing." |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 12:55am
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u see this is my thinking. if it s ahard sponge, then i can put ALL of my strength in that loop without worrying that it will go over the table [ imtalking bout lifting heavy chop here]. i played with hard sponge before, and my god the control is good, compared with say donic f1 which was too expensive to maintain, it was outta control. ------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 2:16am
Yes we do. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 2:18am
I agree, but you don't want it too hard for looping, or you won't be able to dig the ball in and get as much spin. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: mece
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 2:31am
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the thing with hard sponges (without glue), it's that u dont feel the ball. I personally have to feel the ball sinking into the rubber to execute a good loop.
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Posted By: legender
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 10:19am
| what is the full name for SP? |
Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 4:48pm
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SP is the name of the topsheet which originally appeared on the Wang Nan rubber. Now this topsheet is available on a few different sponges but just called SP.
On God favored sponge (Chinese hard sponge) it is extremely spinny but pretty slow without glue.
On Transcend sponge (Chinese medium to hard sponge) it is still very spinny but faster.
On Hero sponge (Chinese medium sponge) very spinny and a little faster.
I am not sure if the Wang Nan version is still available. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34kRbLNCcpk" rel="nofollow - Fred 49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve |
Posted By: Jack87
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 5:07pm
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A few questions: what are you replacing? Going from most euro rubbers to the 'tackiest' chinese rubber in the land is going to be quite a shock, especially from a looping standpoint.
Are you happy with the looping capabilities of your current euro rubber? Or would you like more speed? spin? faster? slower? Looking for the closest copy cat you can get to your old rubber or something else?
The #1 reason myself, and many of the other posters ask, is, going to a very hard sponged, very sticky rubber (say, the standard 729 SP), especially unglued, is going to create a majory change in what you need to do to stroke a solid loop.
Thanks,
- Jack -
PS: What blade do you use? Same one in your signature? Has a major impact on the rubber selection, imo. ------------- Gambler Kevlar ST Nittaku Refoma (1.5mm) Yasaka Phantom 011 (OX) |
Posted By: Jack87
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 5:09pm
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If you're looking for something that can do it all whilst generating more spin, Cream MRS or one of several 729-topsheet variants will do the trick.
If you're looking for a euro-replacement, you really can't beat Dawei Inspirit for the price, under $20 in the US, and available at colestt.com
Hope this helped,
- Jack - ------------- Gambler Kevlar ST Nittaku Refoma (1.5mm) Yasaka Phantom 011 (OX) |
Posted By: legender
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 6:06pm
And what is the MRS?
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Posted By: Wheelie
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 6:13pm
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Magic Red Sponge I actually prefer Tackspeed 2000 on MRS - I find it plays flatter than Cream which is better for my style. Also my forehand seems a bit more accurate with Tackspeed than it was with Cream but others may not agree. |
Posted By: lilactime031
Date Posted: 06/19/2007 at 8:10pm
You have right. I have in mind SP on Canon sponge 42 dgr or SP on Kokutaku. Earth is a new rubber of Galaxy together with Mars , Jupiter and Saturn. Mars is an attempt for Galaxy to produce a rubber sheet grippy and not tacky. On the other hand Earth is closer to chinese standarts, it's tacky, i would say somewhere between Sprung and SP. Allthough Galaxy tries to improve sponges i will have better revew when i will be able to have an Earth top sheet onto a sponge of my choice. But this rubber it's very interesting from a company which has big reputation for blades but in the field of rubbers don't have some famous product. ------------- e-pingpongshop |
Posted By: slaplink_pat
Date Posted: 06/20/2007 at 12:24am
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Jianmei 999 and Juic-Globe 999 ------------- Blade: Xiom AZX FH: Xiom Omega VII China Guang BH: DHS PF4 Blade: Donic Alligator Combi FH: TIbhar MXP BH: Spinlord Zeitgeist |
Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 06/20/2007 at 7:21am
Do you have any info on the Jupiter and Saturn rubbers?
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Posted By: legender
Date Posted: 06/20/2007 at 10:42am
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I played 729 for years included Wang Nan something, not sure it is wang nan sp. The Wang Nan rubber is really really good. But never heard of MRS. Anyone here can give a Chinese name of it? I want to have a try of it. Thanks in advance. |
Posted By: lilactime031
Date Posted: 06/20/2007 at 12:50pm
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Posted By: lilactime031
Date Posted: 06/20/2007 at 1:02pm
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sorry i can't upload the images of rubbers covers Jupiter is another Galaxy attempt for less tacky - more grippy rubber. Maybe a bit faster than Mars. Saturn is slower and tackier than Earth. In think in 25 days i will try them. ------------- e-pingpongshop |
Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 06/20/2007 at 4:39pm
Thank you very much for your reply
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/20/2007 at 8:29pm
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MRS --> MAGIC RED SPONGE, i think its a better sponge compared to the standard dhs sponge in the regular sp version.. its a bit lighter and the sponge is ok with glue and a bit bouncier
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