How heavy is your P.Korbel?
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Topic: How heavy is your P.Korbel?
Posted By: speaquinox
Subject: How heavy is your P.Korbel?
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 2:31am
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I checked out 2 dealers and couldn't find anything light. I have other blades which are all about 85 gr or lower (excluding Acoustic 90gr) so wondering whether I should buy one about 92-94 gr to use with Sriver-like weighted rubbers or keep searching/waiting. So how heavy are your Korbel and complete setup? ------------- Innerforce ALC, Glayzer / Rozena |
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Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 2:49am
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I own one, about 92-93 grams. With both rubbers, just add 84 gr more.
However, you can get a Korbel below 90 gr. Just ask the internet seller or stop by at tt store nearby.
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Posted By: asr1990
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 5:38am
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Mine weighs a f*ckin ton,
My total setup weighs 188grams and one of my rubbers is suposed to be lighter than most conventional rubbers
asr1990 ------------- mizutani jun tenergy bryce speed fx Will be trying Zeta soon |
Posted By: Shmo
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 9:35am
| My Korbel weighs 89.9 grams. |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 11:35am
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mine is lean n mean, 86g. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: Kupus
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 11:48am
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Mine is 89g, realy nicely balanced! And just to add this is one of those blades that realy gets better in time! ------------- TSP Cito Fitter OFF AN FH Skyline TG3 2.15 + CTE BH Speedy spin max + CTE |
Posted By: dimitris
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 8:04pm
93gr... 
------------- Darker Tanpan, fh 729 higher 2.0mm, bh 729 geospin 2.0mm http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28707 - My for sale thread |
Posted By: Wojo
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 10:02pm
| Weighed mine in at 89g., thx to iruiru. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 10:07pm
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mine are 82 & 84 gms. (ST handle)
:) perfection!
JL
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Posted By: dr Loop
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 10:32pm
| man i think mine is heavy... |
Posted By: Halibass
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 10:56pm
| 88 gms |
Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 10/04/2007 at 7:34am
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Couldn't resist and ordered a 90 gr FL from iruiru. That was the lightest they had.
------------- Innerforce ALC, Glayzer / Rozena |
Posted By: mece
Date Posted: 10/04/2007 at 8:06am
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84 gr
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Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 10/04/2007 at 8:28am
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It's hard to believe how some of you guys get those. 82 gr korbels, 74 gr 1 ply hinokis :). You must be quite patient. ------------- Innerforce ALC, Glayzer / Rozena |
Posted By: dr Loop
Date Posted: 10/04/2007 at 11:12am
| mmm does anyone know why they weight differently, or why they have an inconsistent mass? you'd figure they would weigh all the same if constructed by the same material (aside from handle). |
Posted By: Timemaster
Date Posted: 10/05/2007 at 12:49am
93g, and happy about it ! I have a sriver L and a sriver EL on it, and I find the setup borderline light 
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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/05/2007 at 1:12am
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@ dr loop..
This weight inconsistency applies to all other brands too. I've seen/felt Violins ranging from 79g to 90g, Acoustics ranging from 86g to 91g, Korbels ranging from 84g to 93g...Stiga blades are even more outrageously inconsistent, e.g. Clippers from 89g to 95g..etc etc... I think QA/QC don't really apply @ t/t blade manufacturing. Whatevr numbers those t/t blades makers/Co. claim, we can just throw those nos. outta the window! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 10/05/2007 at 1:55am
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Oh, I want a light one for my collection of madness. ------------- For More Info, PM or Email me: [email protected] |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/05/2007 at 2:00am
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Tz, u ain't gonna do ur own handjob of trying to sand dwn ur Clipper OS. right? That'll be an abuse/a mutilation on an " Original beauty"..Just insane! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 10/05/2007 at 3:11am
My prev. Acoustic was 84 gr and current is 90. Previous Energy was 75 gr and current is 84. I've contacted several online dealers and the lightest Korbel I could find is 90 gr. Suzuki from iruiru said others in stock were about 94-95. I believe the inconsistency is just because of the wood density. Probably heavier samples are faster and stiffer. If you get a -say- 94 gr Stiga Energy (I know there many Energys above 90 gr) it'll probably feel quite different than the 80'ish ones. ------------- Innerforce ALC, Glayzer / Rozena |
tiehwen wrote:Posted By: korearulz
Date Posted: 10/05/2007 at 10:25am
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My old korbel is now like 96gs necaus ive been gluing so much ------------- Official XIOM Distributor of New Zealand & Australia |
Posted By: dr Loop
Date Posted: 10/06/2007 at 3:59am
| oh god... thanks for the info i will keep that in mind if i buy a new blade. |
Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/06/2007 at 4:11am
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Lately I bought one Gergely and the seller let me take home 4 pcs to choose from. The lightest was 82 grams and the heaviest was 91 grams. I believe the weight range is a bit more than that.
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 10/06/2007 at 4:18am
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Maybe it's a matter of drying time. Formely, manufacturers could afford letting woods dry longer than nowadays. Maybe due to today's high demand they do not have this opportunity any longer. Also some species are getting rarer, such as hinoki. Old trees been cut long ago. Been told older and dryer are lighters. ------------- Joola Wyzaryz Freeze Vega pro 2.0mm Vega intro 2.0mm Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9 |
Posted By: pingpongrob
Date Posted: 10/06/2007 at 5:48am
Yes you are right, it is a matter of drying time, but also every tree is differant, some have tighter grains. It all depends on where they are grown and for how long. It depends on how long the timber merchants have the timber on their racks, how long the manufacturer has it on his shelves. Some timbers vary a great deal from one batch to another, sometimes when i weigh the blades that come into stock, I find variances of up to 15 grams. Even I'm shocked sometimes. If you are after a certain weight, ask the supplier to check his stock, you might be lucky to get one close to what you like. ------------- Distributor for Andro, XIOM, Tibhar, Joola, Dr Neubauer, Donic, DHS, AIR, Dawei, 729 & Yinhe http://www.affordablett.com.au" rel="nofollow - http://www.affordablett.com.au |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 10/06/2007 at 7:18pm
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r ppl that weight sensitive? is it that bad? tennis elbow lol?
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/07/2007 at 2:57am
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Some people are weight sensitive for one reason or another. My reason for seeking light blade is arm pain.
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
Posted By: master-pong
Date Posted: 10/07/2007 at 4:32am
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Just gave my Korbel a go, turns out it's 86grams. Lighter than I thought actually.
Proof:  |
Posted By: YATTP
Date Posted: 10/07/2007 at 11:25am
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I don't think that it's a matter of drying time. The world famous old Stigas from the 60ies and early 70ies are *heavy* and I mean *heavy*. Some of these blades are so good that some people would pay serious money to get them. Stiga used much longer drying times than today back then. But the blades are still heavier than most blades today. Wood is a natural resource. You won't find 2 identical trees. Wood from one tree is not identical to other wood from the same tree. Blades are unique. If you have 10 blades of the same model, you'll have 10 totally different blades - and maybe one piece of magic that you should cherish for the rest of your tt career. Lighter doesn't mean better. Actually, very often the heavier blades have a much better feeling. Heavier always means faster. Lighter means slower. |
Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 10/07/2007 at 11:32am
I just got off the phone with an international distributor. I have the guy weighing Nittaku Acoustics for me. He has four that he says look identical, but weigh-in at: 78, 80, 85, 91. Trees really are different! I found the weight variance between blades to be even more drastic with Stiga, which isn't surprising . . . less QA, more production. I have one Clipper OS that is 83gr and another that is 92. The difference is so much that I need different setups to compensate for the extra weight on one. Can you guess which I use the Long Pips OX on? LOL.  ------------- For More Info, PM or Email me: [email protected] |
Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 10/08/2007 at 3:34am
OMG !!!
78g,80g acoustics !!! Where, who, how much ? Can't believe it ! Need one at once ! ------------- Joola Wyzaryz Freeze Vega pro 2.0mm Vega intro 2.0mm Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9 |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/08/2007 at 12:09pm
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I presume he got it from presports. 80g - 85g for Acoustic is just sweeet! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 10/08/2007 at 3:25pm
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I got a Fl acoustic from presports at 84 grams.
I got a St acoustic from paddlepalace at 78 grams. I got a Fl violin from paddlepalace at 82 grams. Please keep in mind they're not all for me, but . . . paddlepalace has a couple light ST available and presports has a couple mid-80s weight acoustics. Tell 'em both Tommy Zai sent you!  ------------- For More Info, PM or Email me: [email protected] |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/08/2007 at 4:29pm
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why suddenly there were these Acoustic/Violin crazes? Paddlepalace.com has quite a few Nittakus which r really light, what a surprise! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/09/2007 at 5:51am
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(Sigh) then I shouldn't have rushed to buy before. My Violin C-pen is 84 grams. If I was more patient maybe I could have got a lighter one. Maybe like my Violin J-pen reversible (72 grams).
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 10/09/2007 at 6:29am
Email sent
 ! Thks for the tip tommyzai  !ps : sorry for hijacking Korbel's topic with acoustic. ------------- Joola Wyzaryz Freeze Vega pro 2.0mm Vega intro 2.0mm Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9 |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/09/2007 at 10:56am
man..these gems u've r just quite someth'n and adorable! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/10/2007 at 12:05am
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Sorry, I made a mistake : my Violin C-pen is 77 grams. (84 grams is my Darker Speed 90 - 9 mm) ------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/10/2007 at 12:16am
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Gosh...those numbers r even BETTER! But still K Super Cho IS ur 1st choice. Not surprised @ all! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/10/2007 at 6:35am
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Your single ply is better. It is 76 grams isn't it ? Maybe it is the second lightest that I have heard of (the first being Ryno's).
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |