Balls Balls, Breaking Balls!
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Topic: Balls Balls, Breaking Balls!
Posted By: anixon
Subject: Balls Balls, Breaking Balls!
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 7:34pm
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How many balls do you guys go through in say a week? A friend of mine and I have been going through a ball every 8-10 games and it's pretty annoying. What balls are known to last pretty long? And also what balls do you think are the best? Almost everyone I know uses the DHS Athens balls, but I think these kinda suck. They seem much thinner than other balls I've tried like the Sunflex 3 star and these cheap Prince 3 star my friend got at the local sporting store. Recommendations? |
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Posted By: alfie
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 7:37pm
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nittaku premium or double fish both 3 star ------------- Blade Xiom Control 3/ALL+ BH Andro impuls speed FH H3 Provincial Tibhar CTE |
Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 7:40pm
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The balls have been laughing at me when I hit lately as if to ask, "Is that all you have Mr. Zai?"
I've found the Dawei 3-star and Doublefish 3-star and Nittaku 3-star to be the most durable and kindest. They don't laugh as loudly. ------------- For More Info, PM or Email me: [email protected] |
Posted By: mdjenders
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 8:11pm
| I have found the Double Fish to be the most durable, although I cracked one clean in half with a hardbat smash yesterday. Gamblers are also pretty good. I played a friend hardbat in a basement with nearby walls last week, and I think we went through 5 Nittakus before resigning to play with Newgys the rest of the time to save cash. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 8:19pm
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I played with Nittaku 40 Top Ball (good practice ball), with Nittaku Premium 40 (great tournament ball), Butterfly 40 (an OK practice ball), Stiga Practice Ball, Double Fish 3-star etc. Nittakus could be rather fragile, but on average I break just one ball every 2-3 sessions... if nobody steps on them, of course.
------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: ErikaT
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 8:27pm
| i think nittaku and the butterfly 1s are pretty gd |
Posted By: pongcrazy
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 9:01pm
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Doublefish 3* and Gambler 3* are the best quality to price ratio by far!!! I find them better in quality even to Nittaku 3* Premiums! pongcrazy
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Posted By: dr Loop
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 9:53pm
| Double Fish 3* and Gambler 3* |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 11:08pm
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double fish are awesome 3 star balls, nittaku doesnt do it for me
------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 11:43pm
| double happiness 3 star top games olympic balls last a month for me |
Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 11:46pm
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nittaku premium is not a choice for durable..
and yes... dhs athena 3 star balls SUCK!
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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 11:47pm
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dhs 3star balls last long, but they suck...
they don't feel same as first time after couple hours...
it feels lighter after while...
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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 11:47pm
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yeh i bought some and they really do suck, the solid feeling is lost lol
------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 11:49pm
| are you sure? |
Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 11:52pm
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YES
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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 11:53pm
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they really suck... try something like nittaku premium..
it feels lot different...
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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/16/2007 at 11:58pm
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what about butterfly 3*? |
Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 12:00am
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i like them... much better than dhs 3 star...
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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 12:06am
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ive got like 100 left, damit |
Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 12:10am
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sell it off the ebay...
some one will buy it...
they don't break easily, because they're not hard enough...
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Posted By: JRSDallas
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 12:14am
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Really good balls let you focus on the play and they don't take your attention away from the game. True bounce, reliable and predictable surface grip, good hardness and weight make your rubber and blade respond more closely to what you expect when making your shot. TSP 3* -- Durable but feels a bit light so that the impact on the racket isn't quite on. I've transitioned them to my training ball pile. Nittaku Premium -- When spot on, no ball feels better but they seem short lived. I break at least one and frequently two in an evening - especially if the room has concrete walls within 15 ft of rear edge of the table. Sometimes it seems like you get a bad run of balls that feel a bit light and off. DHS Athens -- Heavy enough with softer feel. Good ball that seems durable. I have no qualms playing this ball and I play well with it but I prefer a crisper ball feel. This ball seems better for spinning than smashing as you don't feel the softness as much. Double Fish 3* -- Very good bounce, good hardness, good surface grip and reliable feel with every shot, good weight, and pretty durable. They seem to last 2 to 3 times longer than Nittaku Premium and they are cheaper. These are my primary ball right now and I am keeping my Nittaku Premiums in reserve for special occasions. Stiga 3* -- I am not that fond of this ball. It feels heavier and less responsive. I've not cracked one but I've only used it when the other guy was supplying the ball. Not a bad ball, but I just am not as comfortable with it as I am with others. Peace 3* -- Korean. Great ball. Great bounce, hitting feel, good weight, good surface grip and durable. I don't know where to get them but I've been given one and have played with a few, and was always very happy with them. I'd have to buy more to get a better idea on consistency, but I would buy them without hesitation. Great ball. 729 3* -- Seemed to be a pretty good ball. I don't like them as much as the Nittaku Premiums but nothing stands out as a clear problem with them. I haven't had a new one in awhile but as I recall, they may not have been as crisp during contact as the Double Fish and Nittaku. |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 12:23am
| good explanation thank you |
Posted By: drywater
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 1:15am
| wow u fools took over his thread... lol |
Posted By: LeRome
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 2:16am
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i actually think i got fake dhs 3 stars once, they have always been the most durable balls for me before, but in a more recent purchase, i broke like one a day. now they are back to normal.
------------- BL: Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive Penhold FH: DHS Skyline TG2 2.2mm BH: Nittaku Hammond 2.1-2.3mm |
Posted By: cata_60
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 2:32am
| At our club,in competitions we use Nittaku 3* premium,in casual days mainly Butterfly3*.Both are good balls,with a + for Nittaku |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 2:40am
| so double fish is most cheap and quality? |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 2:46am
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the most durable 3 star ball, Double Fish *** ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 2:48am
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lets all agree that double fish is most durable ball, end of story, butterfly? pffft, please.....
------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 3:04am
| didnt we say DHS was more durable but it is not good in game play because it is softer? |
Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 3:10am
| double fish is hard and durable... |
Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 3:11am
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I've only tried a few brands, but I rank them like this, in terms of feel and quality. Not including price because they are pretty similar. 1. double fish 3* 2. dhs 3* 3. butterfly3* 
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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 3:17am
| i need to try the double fish, everyone loves em! |
Posted By: anixon
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 12:14pm
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Same, I really want to try double fish. They seem very good from what people say and they are also economical. Butterfly, Nittaku etc. are so expensive! I think I will continue to get a few DHS because everyone in my school club wants to play with them. But if double fish is good I will use them for my own personal use. It would be cool if stores sometimes sell sample packs or variety packs where you get one of each brand or something and you could try them all out! |
Posted By: usuzu
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 12:29pm
| Double fish 3* is durable however has very hard feel. I prefer Gambler 3* for hitting feel and durability |
Posted By: anixon
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 5:20pm
| I got some double fish, will try them later tonight. DHS and Double Fish are both quite economical. Euro/Jap balls are really expensive. I'd probably only buy these on sale... |
Posted By: BAND!T
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 5:56pm
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ive heard nittaku is like the rolls royce of table tennis balls lol. it feels like it after playing with butterflys and dhs.
------------- Gave up on V-Grip, SH smoother Nittaku Noveliar [9 plies of powerthirst infused layers] FH: BLACK Xiom Omega II Asian BH: RED Stiga Boost TC |
Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 6:20pm
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The Nittakus are sweet, but I suggest using the balls used in tournament play to reduce the learning curve. ------------- For More Info, PM or Email me: [email protected] |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 7:41pm
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729 *** take abuse and keep taking it - the Die Hard of TT balls, but they fell so friggin' light and soft! I do not enjoy playing with these.
I prefer balls with a heavy, solid feel. These qualify...
BTY *** ..... Great ball, huge logo, expensive and they crack often enough
Nittaku *** Great ball, nice heavy feel, but they break too often and are REDICULOUS expensive.
2X Fish *** Great ball, Ok price
Athens *** Ditto
Gambler *** Platinum, too bad they are not ITTF approved, they are by far the longest lasting balls with similar feel to Nittaku, but are a dime a dozen
TSP *** Perfom like a somewhat lighter version of BTY *** and last the same
A few others...
Stiga *** Get real, try another ball
Sportcraft *** Not really a true 3 star, but OK for practice and durable ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: patlu08
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 8:21pm
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My top 2 picks are the double fish and nittaku 3 star. Gambler 3 star bullet comes in at a close 3rd because you can buy them by the 36 pack :P ------------- Stiga OC CR - no wrb FH: Globe 999t/Quattro 2.0 BH: Sriver L 1.9 |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 8:55pm
| gambler balls are like the cheapest right? |
Posted By: korearulz
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 10:20pm
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i like the champion balls
------------- Official XIOM Distributor of New Zealand & Australia |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 11:07pm
| i hardly see any champion merchandise... |
Posted By: forehandsmash
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 11:30pm
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i play with dhs 2* and dhs 3* is really NOT durable for me!!!!!!! i break 1 dhs 3* every 2 hours lol ------------- Petr Korbel-FL/Sriver/狂飚 III |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 11:33pm
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the european companies should really step up to the plate and do something about this before double fish rules the world!!!!!
------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/17/2007 at 11:34pm
| their blades and rubbers rules much more than a stupid ping pong ball |
Posted By: anixon
Date Posted: 12/18/2007 at 4:25am
| I used the Double Fish 3* tonight. It's a great ball. I recommend it... It didn't break. hehe |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/18/2007 at 8:14am
| lol, how would you compare to DHS? they are considered the to chinese people. but double fish is cheaper |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 12/18/2007 at 11:49am
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for the price, doublefish 3*** is the best.
that said, none of the 40mm balls are as good as they were when they were 38mm.
they all crack more than before and, more often then not, they are not round.
whenever i play, i generally play 2-4 hrs. at a time and i usually go thru at least 2 balls each time.
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Posted By: anixon
Date Posted: 12/18/2007 at 3:12pm
I never like DHS much, I think they feel too soft. The double fish feels much sturdier. |
lol, how would you compare to DHS? they are considered the to chinese people. but double fish is cheaperPosted By: alfie
Date Posted: 12/18/2007 at 3:14pm
here is a tip
put rubber on your blade that way you will break less balls  ------------- Blade Xiom Control 3/ALL+ BH Andro impuls speed FH H3 Provincial Tibhar CTE |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 12/18/2007 at 3:49pm
put the rubber on the blade?? oh, is that what we're s'posed to do?? gee, i never thought of that... 
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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/18/2007 at 5:19pm
no he was probably playing tennis with them, you were supposed to use tennis balls
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Posted By: anixon
Date Posted: 12/19/2007 at 3:08am
| Has anyone tried Banda 3* before? |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/19/2007 at 3:45am
| i tried andro...its same as butterfly |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/19/2007 at 4:02am
| hahaha i went to buy a packer of 12 cheap balls that are brandless from a multi item store for 5rmb and they bounce so funny!! |
Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 12/19/2007 at 5:56pm
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hey Guys, According to the ITTF Minutes, point #6 http://urlcut.com/hardballs - http://urlcut.com/hardballs there is a true hope of the DHS ballls becoming HARDER and thus more DURABLE very soon, -- just what we desire so much !!! To check if the balls improve in quality, we have to look out the DATECODE on the DHS boxes when buying.Once the datecode is anything after September 2007 -- it is a sure sign of the improved balls. ----------------- Is there anybody who`s already happened to try the "newly designed"DHS balls ??? Post here your impressions please !! Thanks Igor PS\\ Below is the clue how to read datecodes on ball boxes \ cartons (the encoding system effective for all ball brands as of Jule 2004) A=1 B=2 C=3 D=4 E=5 F=6 G=7 H=8 I=9 X=0 For example, if you see four letters on a box XF XG = 06 07 ===> Production Date: June 2007 |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/19/2007 at 6:07pm
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wow that fantastic, im going to check mine right now |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/19/2007 at 6:09pm
| lol, mine is made in 2004! |
Posted By: anixon
Date Posted: 12/20/2007 at 2:40am
| yeah, i think it's doubtful that any of us will see the new DHS balls anytime soon. Retailers will be peddling the old stock for some time to come. |
Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/20/2007 at 2:42am
wow that is very useful thanks
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