Rubber Weight
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Topic: Rubber Weight
Posted By: goldensmile
Subject: Rubber Weight
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 2:52am
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When we buy blades, we look at the manufacture description about the weight and we decide whether the weight are too heavy or not for us. We,however, know a little idea about guessing the rubber weight. I am thinking about posting the weight of rubber after we cut it. Here are the fews:
Donic Coppa JO Gold Max,Black 43g
Yasaka MarkV GPS 2.0mm,red, 35g
Nittaku Hammon 2.0mm, red, 37g
Butterfly Sriver EL 2.1mm, red, 43g
Butterfly Sriver EL 1.9mm, balck, 41g
LKT Torrent 2.2mm, Black 50g
Hurrican 2, 2.2mm,Red 48g
Palio CJ8000 B, red, 2.0mm 35' Quattro, 43g
I hope this info will help you choose your future rubbers.
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Posted By: loop+loop
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 2:57am
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What if you don't have a weighing machine?
I'm thinking we should also include weight before cut when we are at the shop? The shop should have the machine.
Just a thought.
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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 3:03am
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are these rubbers cut to the same blade?
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Posted By: goldensmile
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 4:07am
Yes, I alway cut my rubbers one size which is the size of KLHS.
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theman wrote:Posted By: rokphish
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 5:20am
| I think the database already existed over at the OOAK forum. Why don't we just add to that database? |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 5:25am
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because mytt is awesome
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Posted By: rokphish
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 5:29am
| In that case, why don't somebody over here talks to someone over there so we can have the database migrated over here. Because I think the database could grow so much faster here. |
Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 5:51am
I think we need a database here at MYTT as well, I have some I can add:
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Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 6:07am
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Uncut weights will make more sense as it is much easier to calculate weight per square cm. That way it is independent of the blade size and can be a btter reference.
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Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 6:59am
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i think that some of these do exist on www.oneofakindtrading.com.au forum under the rubber datamass thread.
Perhaps haggisV might lend a hand on this one:-) Its is pretty complete on chinese rubber but it needs more on german and japanese rubber I would also like to see more on darkside rubbers like pimples and anti. ------------- http://avatars.jurko.net"> 
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Posted By: dalamchops
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 8:42am
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Silver/silvalis is in charge of that over there. He takes mass of rubbers UNCUT and the dimensions. http://mass.doingitwrong.net/ ------------- Stiga Titanium 5.4 Cpen Andro Hexer Pips 2.1 Donic Acuda S2 Max |
Posted By: holda
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 5:03pm
| i will find another link and post it here.it is some turkish man who has already gathered such info.rubbers and blades.may be some of you know of him/his project |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 10:32pm
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r u sure that torrent is heavier than h2? i find torrent to be light ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: chockster
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 11:03pm
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I agree, Torrent is definitely lighter than H2. I have both and would describe H2 as 'heavy' whereas Torrent is about medium to light (I don't have scales to prove it but the difference is quite noticeable on the bat). |
Posted By: dimitris
Date Posted: 03/15/2008 at 11:57pm
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There seems to be some variation between sheets as well. For average-sized cut rubber sheets I have recorded the following weights: Yasaka Mark V 2.0 black -- 46gr Yasaka Mark V 2.0 red -- 47gr Joola Energy 2.0 black -- 42gr Yasaka V-Stage 2.0 red -- 41gr Stiga Magna 2.0 black -- 39gr Stiga Magna red 2.0 -- 40gr Dawei Saviga 2.2 red -- 51gr Dawei Saviga 2.2 black -- 45gr Globe 999t on Saviga 2.3 sponge (35deg) red -- 42gr Butterfly Tempest 1.9 black -- 41gr Palio CJ8000 on 35deg Dawei Cannon 2.0 black -- 41gr Dawei Inspirit Quattro Black 2.0 -- 48gr Stiga Almana Sound Max red -- 42gr Friendship Geospin tacky 2.2 black -- 45gr Butterfly Sriver G2 Red 2.0 -- 45gr DHS Hurricane 3 2.2 red (42deg) -- 46gr Friendship 729FX lightning 2.2 red -- 38gr Joola Tango 1.8 red -- 42gr Friendship LKT XP pro on Dawei Cannon 2.2 sponge black -- 48gr Dawei 388A-4 2.0 black (uncut) -- 62gr Friendship 802-40 special soft 1.8 red -- 33gr Tibhar D.TechS 2.0 red -- 43gr Juic Couga 2.0 black -- 43gr ------------- Darker Tanpan, fh 729 higher 2.0mm, bh 729 geospin 2.0mm http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28707 - My for sale thread |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 03/16/2008 at 12:14am
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You should definitely send this to Silvalis so he can add this to his table. I have used his mass database a few times to see if some rubbers were a good match to my preferences, and it would make everybody's life easier if his database were bigger and better! http://mass.doingitwrong.net - http://mass.doingitwrong.net ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Wingman
Date Posted: 03/16/2008 at 12:15am
All rubbers are cut to 157x150mm, (size of KLHS, Photino, Amultart, Ishlion, KC) First column is the weight in grams.
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Posted By: goldensmile
Date Posted: 03/16/2008 at 12:41am
That what first I thought H2 would be heavier. When I put it on the scale Torrent black 2.2 is 50g and H2 red is 48g. I just gave away my h2 to other. Otherwise, I can post the pictures of both rubbers on scale. You should check your Torrent is whether 2.0 or 2.2mm. According to http://mass.doingitwrong.net/ - http://mass.doingitwrong.net/ Chinese red rubber is lighter than Chinese black rubber. If you look at the H3, the weight difference is 3g between balck and red. The 2.2mm red H3 Grams/SQ cm is between 2.0mm red Donic Coppa and black F1. If I tell you the 2.2mm red H3 is lighter than 2.0mm black F1 by Grams/SQ cm measurement, you will not belive it.
But, most of the Chinese rubbers are not consistance in quality. You probably got the lighter Torrent and heavier H2 and I might end up having with heavier Torrent and lighter H2. According to Daniel Tan, H3 rubber is not heavy as we thought by grams/SQ cm.
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Posted By: silvalis
Date Posted: 03/16/2008 at 1:00am
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Hi If you want to put rubbers into my DB, shoot me a PM. ------------- Potato Face |
Posted By: holda
Date Posted: 03/16/2008 at 1:07am
| there it is..i am late |
Posted By: sadius
Date Posted: 03/16/2008 at 1:20am
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Hi Silvalis.
I just finished check out your equipment gallery and DB project. Very good pictures and great info. Thanks. Keep up the good work
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Posted By: pongcrazy
Date Posted: 03/16/2008 at 1:25am
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Don't forget you need the dimensions (length and width) of the uncut sheet in order to do the calculations.
Length, Width, Sponge thickness , and weight in grams of uncut sheet.
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