Slowing a blade down
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Topic: Slowing a blade down
Posted By: nb60907
Subject: Slowing a blade down
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 7:43pm
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Quick question for all the scientists out there. We all know that varnish changes the property of a blade but is there any chemical out there that would slow the blade down. For example im really looking to slow the backhand side of a blade down. I know the obvious answer is try differant rubbers but im only looking for to slow the blade properties down. Any ideas? |
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Posted By: speed_king
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 7:45pm
| Maybe sandpaper? |
Posted By: chronos
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 7:52pm
| with the speed glue ban, could we develop chemicals to treat the outer ply of the blade, giving the actual wood a speed glue effect? |
Posted By: tdragon
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 8:23pm
| Sealing the blade with many layers would slow the blade down |
Posted By: ffx-me
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 8:41pm
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Why not just get a thinner sponge
------------- -Primorac 2000, 802 + globe 999 quattro -Korbel, Cream MRS + 802-40 |
Posted By: asr1990
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 8:44pm
no it wouldn't ------------- mizutani jun tenergy bryce speed fx Will be trying Zeta soon |
tdragon wrote:Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 9:07pm
| Sealing makes the surface harder and speeds it up. |
Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 9:31pm
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use a slow rubber, that's probably the most efficient solution
------------- Violin FL Tenergy 05 2.1 Black Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 Red |
Posted By: 7plywood
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 10:10pm
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Don't do anything to the blade unless you don't care about it and are ready to throw it away. I think especially sandpaper is a bad idea since it is irreversible.
Your "obvious" answer is the correct answer.
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Posted By: joris
Date Posted: 03/22/2008 at 10:18pm
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Use water based glue that should slowed a blade down.
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 12:39am
let's be very careful: that pattern leads to tennagers sniffing chemicals and playing with steroids. outter plies, inner plies, core, wrist, shoulder etc...
I heard about that modified wrb handle that can pump fluids toward the center of the sweet spot through minuscule pipes drilled from the handle. I did not see it yet but I already wish ENEZ's job be done before and AFTER the match. ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: firetack
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 3:14am
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i think it might be interesting to try a thin coat of liquid rubber on the blade,but it is an expensive experiment especially if it dosn`t work ------------- Black Balsa 3.0 fh/tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox |
Posted By: thethinker
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 3:28am
| Sand away the top ply and replace it with a slow softer wood. |
Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 4:44am
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Cutting the head down of the blade, just slightly would change the feels and speed... also sanding the top ply of the side you want to slow down would also change the properties of the blade... ------------- http://avatars.jurko.net"> 
RE-Impact Hydra Andro Roxon 450 2mm Giant Dragon Giant Long ox |
Posted By: DragonSpirit
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 5:44am
Hi nb60907 I bought A donic waldner hinoki blade with sriver l max and yasaka mark v max a month ago, this combo so so so fast!! but powerful! I couldn't handle it in the begining, blocking, smash or loop always out of the table! But now, I'm loving it! It just a matter of adjust myself getting use (master) to the bat. I win more games than ever, more power shots than ever! So, give yourself sometime to now your blade and master it. Don't worry about missing some points in the beginging. Once you mastered it, there's no fast blade for you any more. |
Posted By: nb60907
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 7:12am
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Thank you for the suggestions all. Think I might try and sand the backhand layer down a bit. |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 7:26am
| yes you should really try a slower rubber. |
Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 9:43am
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let us know how it goes?
Ginko ------------- http://avatars.jurko.net">
RE-Impact Hydra Andro Roxon 450 2mm Giant Dragon Giant Long ox |
Posted By: pongcrazy
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 10:35am
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What blade are you doing this to? It may be easier to sell it and look into combination blades........... I used a combo blade with inverted on both sides at one point. If you have a blade that happens to have a thicker, soft outer ply and a harder 2nd ply or core, sanding the soft outer ply down will actually speed the blade up on that side and make the faster ply more prominent.
pongcrazy ------------- Viscaria, H3 Neo, Coppa X1 Gold 7p2a-7t, TG2 Neo, Acuda S2 |
Posted By: nb60907
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 11:00am
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I have a huge selection of blades, I started playing at the age of 13 and made national squad playing a normal shakehand game and then give up at 16 from the pressure of trying to get a good education at the same time. I started again at the age of 24 playing this way but recently changed to a combination bat with long pips on the backhand. My standard is still not to bad as I play county / State level. I have 3 defensive blades so far, Koji pro, chen weixing and Hallmark Aura. The hallmark aura has the slowest backhand side but I would like it slower as I can still not chop as hard as i want to with out the ball flying 10 feet past the table :D Hence why I am trying to slow it right down. The rubbers I have are TSP p1-r 1.3 and Joola octupus 0.5. I know I will be fine with training and I train alot but I really know what I want and its to get a even slower backhand setup. Thanks |
Posted By: grubbafan
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 12:07pm
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Of course the obvious answer would be using a slower rubber. I'm not sure varnish/sanding the blade would slow down the blade. You might risk ruining the blade. If you would like a slower backand without changing the rubber, I think it is better for you (if you have some extra cash) to purchase one of those combo blades (OFF/DEF, ALL+/ALL-, etc..) from Hallmark or DrNeubauer.
------------- Blade : Butterfly Andrzej Grubba FL FH : Butterfly Sriver BH : Butterfly Sriver |
Posted By: liondefence
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 6:00pm
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I don't know if this is illegal or just plain stupid, but how about adding tennis lead tape to the outer rim of the blade and covering it with edge tape? ------------- Mind over power. Donic Defplay Senso (FL) FH: Globe 999 N-in BH: TSP CURL P1-R Overgrip: Wilson(White) |
Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 6:01pm
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You might just want to wait around and see what's allowed after the ban... Some of the new one's coming out from TT-master and Dr. Noob are rated very slow ------------- http://avatars.jurko.net">
RE-Impact Hydra Andro Roxon 450 2mm Giant Dragon Giant Long ox |
Posted By: pongmaster
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 9:50pm
that's legal ------------- Blade: BTY Matsush*ta Pro Special Arylate Carbon FH:H3 BH:Spectol |
Posted By: seasterl
Date Posted: 03/23/2008 at 10:21pm
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For the OP, use either thinner sponge or get the version of rubber in the same series but with softer sponge. If necessary, use the softer version and thinner. This way you retain the same properties of the topsheet. |
Posted By: swissping
Date Posted: 03/24/2008 at 2:31am
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If you sanding the side you want to slow down, you change also the properties of the other side...! This is a really difficult work for someone without any experience! My suggestions is to try a hybrid blade with to different outer plys. Greetings Roger ------------- VH:Samba Joola BH:Armstrong Rosin Blade: TRinnova Sonar Blade --------------------- www.trinnova-blades.com / Handmade Blades |
Posted By: thethinker
Date Posted: 03/24/2008 at 4:39am
| I wouldn't sand it. The Hallmark Aurora is already a comination blade-for those of you who don't know. In this case I agree with using slower rubber on the bh (OX may be?). May be you should also look into changing or improving your techniques as well. |
Posted By: nb60907
Date Posted: 03/24/2008 at 8:53am
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To late, sanded it down last night. Going to try it against my robot in a bit. No loss if its crap ill just by another :D no pain no gain. |