J.O. Waldner Rubber
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Topic: J.O. Waldner Rubber
Posted By: redbull
Subject: J.O. Waldner Rubber
Date Posted: 03/25/2008 at 12:40pm
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High guys!
What thickness do you think is the best for this rubber : 2.0 or max? Anybody know what thickness is the sponge of the rubber that Jan Ove Waldner plays with? Which one is better Nittaku J.O.Waldner or Donic J.O. Waldner, or are they the same? Is Nittaku Nodias the same as Nittaku J.O. Waldner? Thanks ------------- Blade: Donic Waldner Dicon |
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Posted By: ProfessorChaos
Date Posted: 03/25/2008 at 12:48pm
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JO during his prime played with 2.0 on both sides I played with max and it was a great all-around rubber (played without glue though) Nittaku's JO Waldner has a harder sponge and grippier topsheet if i remember correctly. Donic's sponge is softer. Nodias is not the same as JO Waldner ------------- Yasaka Max Carbon 3D FL Desto F1 Max Sriver FX Max |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/25/2008 at 5:46pm
| I use the 2.2 Nittaku JO Waldner both sides and I have also used Donic JO Waldner 2.0. Both are really good. The donic version is harder and a bit less elastic. The Nittaku version is softer and more elastic. I also don't glue anymore. 2.2 without glue is alot better for looping. I would recommend the donic version if you hit harder. The Nittaku version bottoms out pretty easily. |
Posted By: redbull
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 5:01am
Interesting, one of you says donic is softer, the other says nittaku is softer  ------------- Blade: Donic Waldner Dicon |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 6:18am
| I think it's quality control |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 6:34am
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both are the same. some variation on hardness can be noticed on every brand.
------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 6:55am
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I glued 2 sheets of Nittaku Waldner onto a Galaxy T2, the Black was 47 grams cut red 42 grams cut, both 2mm. Didnt play it though sponge was pretty firm. So Id suggest stick to 2mm if you want to keep your bat a medium weight |
Posted By: redbull
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 7:27am
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Can it be used non speed glued/non tuned? ------------- Blade: Donic Waldner Dicon |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 8:21am
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i beg to disagree but the nodias is the jo waldner replacement according to my supplier who went to talk with the donic and nittaku company representatives.. waldner used max on both sides for the jo waldner rubber when the ball was changed to 40mm.. also he is not using jo waldner as his fh rubber anymore but only in his bh now.. he uses sonex jp as his fh rubber now ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: redbull
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 8:39am
Thank you , yogi_bear , I was quite thinking Nodias is the J.O. Waldner replacement  ------------- Blade: Donic Waldner Dicon |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 8:53am
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yes it is though its a bit softer than the original jo waldner if you look closely at the rubber and also play with it you will notice the similarities
------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 4:06pm
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Waldner plays max, but he is not always using the Waldner-rubber.. He has been testing some sonex JP and f1 rubbers.
I bought 2 sheets of Donic JO Waldner Max with a ST Waldner senso carbon. I had to glue the rubbers a LOT to get any click, but I guess I was a bit unlucky with the quality of my sheets.
The Nittaku JO waldner is a bit softer and more elastic. Finn Tugwell from Denmark uses the Donic JO waldner for FH and the Nittaku JO waldner for BH on a clipper blade. He is sponsored by Nittaku :P ------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0 |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 5:39pm
yes you're right jo waldner is not a loud rubber only if it's glued/tuned up heavily it's quite loud. But sound is not important. It's about speed and spin.
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Schlager wrote:Posted By: redbull
Date Posted: 03/27/2008 at 7:37am
So how's its speed spin if untuned? Can it be played untuned? I'm asking because I'm playing some sriver fxes max and when I tune them they become too thick, the total thickness is about 5 mm, which is not approved by ITTF. So I was thinking if I can play J.O. Waldner untuned then I buy max, but if I have to tune it (I use stiga extreme booster or PO) do I have to buy 2.0 ? ------------- Blade: Donic Waldner Dicon |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/27/2008 at 10:33am
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FYI waldner uses sonex jp on his fh and the jo on his bh, thats the latest news from the donic president when my supllier met him at the recent world team championships
------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/27/2008 at 10:47am
Yes better buy 2.0 if you're tuning. It's great. The spin is still good without tuning but It's much too slow untuned if you're used too tuned rubbers. If you don't tune you should try jo gold or the new jo coppa platin.
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Posted By: ppgear
Date Posted: 03/27/2008 at 10:59pm
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If you have any reviews of the JO Waldner, you can post them on the http://www.tabletennisdb.com/table-tennis-rubber.php?id=donic-jo-waldner - Table Tennis Database - JO Waldner Ratings/Reviews
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