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Topic: Xiom Zeta...
Posted By: T h e N A M
Subject: Xiom Zeta...
Date Posted: 06/18/2008 at 6:16pm
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has any one tried Xiom Zeta...?
how did you like the rubber...?
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Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 06/19/2008 at 1:13am
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I use ZETA. It is a lighter version of Omega III with a little tacky surface. If you love chinese rubbers, you would love this too. Good for looping and can generate good spin with the top sheet.
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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 06/19/2008 at 1:29am
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What about this new Xiom SIGMA? ------------- Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect Yinhe Qing |
Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 06/19/2008 at 2:19am
have you used omega 3 bios...?
i haven't used o3 bios.. but can you compare with o2...?
how much is it slower than o2...?
what blade are you using...?
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varghesep wrote:Posted By: chronos
Date Posted: 06/19/2008 at 2:24am
| How long does the tack last varg, thanks! |
Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 06/19/2008 at 7:15am
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some say it's not tacky, but more like slippery.. ------------- 'Nobody is Perfect. I am Nobody' |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 06/19/2008 at 9:23am
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I think the word 'Slippery' has been used when Zeta is compared with another tacky chinese rubber. I have used Chinese tacky rubbers before and they don't fit my looping. The ZETA is less tacky compared with Chinese tacky rubbers. They are more tacky compared with Omega series. I was able to generate a great amount of spin with Zeta's top sheet. When I say tacky, the ball does not stick to the rubber as Chinese rubbers do. I was also amazed to find out how this rubber is helping the looping. It is more like a junior version of Omega III with a chinese kind top sheet. ZETA is very good for close to the table hitting - it has a live feeling. The True Innovation is for more top spin game. ZETA is very durable - does not absorb dust like other tacky rubbers. No need to use any tacky boosting solution.
Omega III is an animal. It is "very very" fast and best suited for top spin game. Just watch what Ryu Seung Min does. You can do pretty much the same with that. As a warning, it will take few hours of practice. I used to have worry against pushers who push to my long pips. A push with Omega III is very hard to handle.
Omega II has more power than speed.
Something amazing I love about these rubbers are countering. Omega III can counter any heavy top spin. ZETA comes next to Omega III in countering.
I use TSP Balsa Fiber 3.5 and XIOM Aigis - both are defensive blades. I play with Omega III on XIOM Aigis against top spin players and high rated players. I use ZETA on TSP Balsa Fiber 3.5 against less top spin players. On the back hand I have TSP Curl P1R 1.6 mm.
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Posted By: melarimsa
Date Posted: 06/19/2008 at 11:05am
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Wow, what a pleasent suprise that you have REACTOR rubbers: Novar & Corbor ------------- http://www.youtube.com/100NiTenis" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/100NiTenis |
Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 06/19/2008 at 11:35am
| thanks for the great comment..!!! i'm waiting for my ZETA to arrive...!!! |
Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 06/23/2008 at 12:49am
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I tested Xiom Zega today... and i like it lot more than Omega 1 or 2, Narucross EX hard or Soft, Plasma 430 or 470....
it generates more spin and better sound...
but I can't really feel that Zeta is slower than any other rubbers listed above...
I think I'll play with Zeta for a while...
absolutely love it..
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Posted By: rokphish
Date Posted: 06/23/2008 at 1:05am
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Sounds good! Looks like I'm gonna place an order soon... Hopefully they have arrived by now at the agent...
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Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 06/23/2008 at 5:19am
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The top spin players who don't have that much to spend like $50, they can go for TRUE INNOVATION than Omega III series. After you use TRUE INNOVATION for few weeks you will go for Omega III because it is is easy to migrate.
ZETA and TRUE INNOVATION are very much economically priced with high quality.
Please note that you should not speed glue or use boosters on these rubbers.
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Posted By: rokphish
Date Posted: 06/23/2008 at 7:13am
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What's the difference between the zeta and TI? ------------- instagram: rokphishtt Member of EJ Anonymous Hurricane Lover |
Posted By: asr1990
Date Posted: 06/23/2008 at 7:26am
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is the zeta a loud rubber? ------------- mizutani jun tenergy bryce speed fx Will be trying Zeta soon |
Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 06/23/2008 at 7:36am
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True Innovation is a rubber that was released last year with O1 and O2 tensors and O3 regular.. When i was looking for a BH rubber, the Xiom agent suggested me this rubber.. I was unsure of this rubber, so i didn't buy it.. I think the price is not far from the Omega (5-6 $ cheaper), if i remember correctly, that is one reason that put me off from buying it.
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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 06/23/2008 at 2:01pm
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i wouldn't spend any money to TI...
i don't really see many korean players using TI...
most of the them use TI because it has 50 degrees sponge... which is really hard...
zeta is louder than O2...
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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 06/23/2008 at 2:13pm
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How does Zeta plays The NAM.. (Serve&Receive, Short play, and loop?) Would you consider yourself making it your primary rubber? Or have you play with something better? ------------- 'Nobody is Perfect. I am Nobody' |
Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 10:37pm
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Bump
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Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 11:21pm
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The ZETA is the top selling among XIOM rubbers now next to Omega III as per TableTennisStore.us best sellers. I've used TI at the US Open. It is similar to DONIC Silver or Joola Energy Xtra. Very good spin and fit top spin game. ------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16429 - Feedback |
Posted By: Glenn
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 8:43am
I would love to hear the answers to these questions too. Would like to hear about durability too. |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 9:00am
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The top sheet of ZETA is not soft as other tensor rubbers. I have not seen it breaking.
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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 12:49pm
How is the TI's durability? ------------- ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ take my energy ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 1:48pm
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I dont really get it :S
Some people say that Zeta has a tacky topsheet, some doesnt
is it tacky like Hurricane or others? ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 1:50pm
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or even the Omega any version, which has "chinese tacky" topsheets? ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Mr. Cermet
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 2:08pm
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I play with the new Omega III Bios max asian version and its very fast and I think the Topsheet is much better then Omega I or II. You can generate more spin in your Topspin and Service. The feel is very compare to a speed glued Sriver L max (i had always 5 layers glued ). This rubber without speed glue is the best substitute for my old Sriver L.
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Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 2:10pm
does this mean that the topsheet is about the same as sriver? ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Mr. Cermet
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 2:28pm
No, it is not the same topsheet. The pimples are bigger and the topsheet structure is an other but the grip is almost the same as Sriver. ------------- Nittaku Septear Cpen fh. BTY T05 2,1 RPB. BTY T64 2,1 My Videos!!! http://www.youtube.com/user/LeeJungWoo123456789 |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 2:33pm
Thank you that was all i needed to know about the Omega3 ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Obachecka
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 2:45pm
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Can someone compare the Xiom Zeta to another ESN rubber (like Nimbus, Sinus,....) ? Would be great. Thanks
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Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 3:06pm
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I keep on reading everywhere that its tacky like for instance Hurricane. is this true or not? ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 3:24pm
According to varghesep, its lightly tacky, so no way near as tacky as Hurricane. ------------- ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ take my energy ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ |
Posted By: Obachecka
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 3:41pm
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Is it tackier than a nimbus/sinus/tenergy/... ?
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Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 6:03pm
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The ZETA is not tacky like H3 but less tacky and highly grippy. The magic is that you feel great tackiness because there is some kind of grabbing happens like a tacky rubber when the rubber comes in contact with the ball. You can spin like regular tacky rubber through its top sheet at the same time a lot of mechanical spin can be generated through hard contact. Omega III is the sr version of ZETA and True Innovation. However Omega III is grippy and for active top spin game. You will be on your toe with Omega III. If you are a "brusher" Omega III is the right choice. I gave ZETA to a friend who could not loop for a while with his old rubber. He is back into looping now with ZETA - creates problem for me with his looping. I could not successfully return his pushes until now. His level has improved, and now he is going to get Omega III. ------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16429 - Feedback |
Posted By: yorsh82
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 6:46pm
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O3 sr version of ZETA?
what does it means? are u saying that if i got the chance of buy one of both ....O3 is a better choice?... ------------- searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :( |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 6:48pm
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I meant Senior Version. More top spin possibilities with Omega III than ZETA or TRUE INNOVATION.
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Posted By: yorsh82
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 7:04pm
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mmm....i see..
is the o3 to bouncy ? does it have good control ? ------------- searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :( |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 7:35pm
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Omega III jumps fast from the table because of the top spin. They are hard to return unless the player is good at countering top spin. On the first day, you may feel little crazy in your mind because of its speed. It may take at least day to have complete control. It is like someone giving you a NASCAR in the track and asking you to drive. After you drive for a while in the track, you are the king. It has excellent control at soft impact and hard impact. The touch shots are beautiful. ------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16429 - Feedback |
Posted By: yorsh82
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 7:39pm
wow..sounds like the solution to september!, i play with a TBS, what do u think if i put to O3 on it?..good combo? ------------- searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :( |
Posted By: yorsh82
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 7:42pm
wow..sounds like the solution to september!, i play with a TBS, what do u think if i put two O3 on it?..good combo? ------------- searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :( |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 9:30pm
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A good combination would be power rubber like ZETA, Omega II, TSP Real or JOOLA Express 1. This is for an offensive player who wants a variety of shots from the back hand. You can have Omega III on the other side too if you can loop with back hand. With Omega series like I, II or III, you have to have an active top spin game. This is not something for a passive blocker for example. ------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16429 - Feedback |
Posted By: qidsign
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 12:28am
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If I want combination between Zeta & Omega 3 bios for my blade setup, which one is the most suitable for FH & BH?
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Posted By: korearulz
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 2:11am
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does anyone have pictures? ------------- Official XIOM Distributor of New Zealand & Australia |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 8:23am
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I suggest Omega III for the forehand and ZETA for the backhand. Why not? Twiddle the paddle and play with Zeta on your forehand in between the points. The pictures of Omega III and ZETA are on the XIOM USA site http://www.TableTennisStore.us - http://www.TableTennisStore.us or http://www.xiomtabletennisusa.com - http://www.xiomtabletennisusa.com ------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16429 - Feedback |
Posted By: rokphish
Date Posted: 07/17/2008 at 8:14am
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TheNam, how's the zeta? Any difference between max and 2.0?
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Posted By: gekogark1212
Date Posted: 07/17/2008 at 8:43am
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I'm actually most interested in Zeta vs Tenergy. Spin? Hardness? Weight? comparisons would be excellent! ^^ ------------- (\__/) (='.'=) But there's no sense crying over every mistake, (")_(") You just keep on trying till you run out of cake. |
Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 07/18/2008 at 6:33pm
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I'm sure it's softer than Tenergy by a margin as all tensors. I wonder how good is the topsheet (by means of creating spin). We know Tensors mostly depend on sponge and tension for spin but I don't like that much. If Zeta is simliar to Magna or Tackifire series for the topsheet, I might try it immediately.
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Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/18/2008 at 8:24pm
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ZIOM has both tensors and BIOS. The top sheet is grippy. You can generate spin with its top sheet - thats where I'm little surprised. ------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16429 - Feedback |
Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 6:43am
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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 7:02am
i've tried little more than 10 different tensor rubbers...
revolution fire, plasma 430, plasma 470, nimbus, narucross ex hard, soft,
omega1, omega2, macro, zeta... plus bryce speed, speed fx...
for me, i think zeta plays better than any other rubbers without speed glue...
Serve: i like it a lot... i can generate really heavy spins...
receive: zeta is fast rubber, but it's not too crazy bouncy like other tensor rubbers... i can control better with zeta...
loop: it's my favorite part... it generates so much spin... i just love it.
a lot of people i play with, they are amazed with spins on my loop...
one of my friend is using photino with bryce speed,
but he was generating more spins and speed with my zeta and korbel...
it is my primary rubber already...
after my first purchase... i bought another 4 sheets rubbers...
then i gave a sheet to my friend who lives in Korea...
i'll probably order more sheets when it's available...
cause it is out of stock right now... :D
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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 7:07am
i'm not sure... i didn't actually tried to switch around...
i'm using max on my forehand and 2.0 on my backhand...
it's just becuse i can't get max black...
i would love to play max on both side...
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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 7:16am
have you tried any tensor rubbers with TBS?
cause i heard a lot of people saying TBS don't play well with tensor rubbers...
it has weird feelings....
if you liked any of tensor rubbers, i would try it...
but if not.... i wouldn't play tensor on TBS...
bryce speed should be good....
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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 7:22am
cause you are playing h3 on forehand and sriver el on backhand...
i'd try zeta on forehand then o3 on backhand...
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Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 8:34am
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Good review. I think what makes ZETA different is the BIOS. Have you liked the click sound? I have said in one thread before. This is an amazing looping + hitting rubber. ------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16429 - Feedback |
Posted By: yorsh82
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 8:46am
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@the NAM, not, i have never played with tensor rubbers....y play with 729 Godfavored FH, and sriver g2 fx BH,...so....isnt a good idea to get Z's for the timo ? :'( ------------- searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :( |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 9:29am
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The XIOM ZETA can go with any blade. I have been using with TSP Balsa Plus 3.5 DEF+ blade, and it is great on any blade.
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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 5:57pm
if i were you...
i'll just buy another blade....
or keep use sriver or bryce, bryce speed.... family...:D
but it is still good idea to see how it plays on you.... tbs with tensor...
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Posted By: BAND!T
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 6:41pm
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@the NAM, how does the fuga play? im interested in the blade as xiom claims it has high flex but low vibration. can you confirm this? because i plan to get a zeta, and am also looking for a new blade. im curious about the control and response, and how it kicks off the blade. sorry for the threadsteal ^-^
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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 7:23pm
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sorry, i don't have fuga YET.... i was going to order one from Korea, but found out tabletennisstore.us will have it on stock in 2-3 weeks...
i'm currently using butterfly korbel and i doubt if fuga will work better than korbel..
cause korbel with zeta is so good....
but i'm going to get it anways....
i'll let you how it plays... :D
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Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/19/2008 at 7:34pm
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It is http://www.TableTennisStore.us - http://www.TableTennisStore.us not mytabletennis.us
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Posted By: Aeros 1975
Date Posted: 07/21/2008 at 8:41am
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Mr.Cermet, try to compare hardness od Omega III Asian version with Sriver L , please. thanx ------------- Ignito & Tenergy 05 |
Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 07/21/2008 at 8:53am
Thank you for your wonderful review and pictures.. The Zeta sponge definitely is different than the Omega.. ------------- 'Nobody is Perfect. I am Nobody' |