Print Page | Close Window

why the chinese top players.......

Printed From: Alex Table Tennis - MyTableTennis.NET
Category: Equipment
Forum Name: Equipment
Forum Description: Share your experience and discussions about table tennis equipments.
Moderator: haggisv
Assistant Moderators: position available

URL: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19416
Printed Date: 05/02/2024 at 12:14am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: why the chinese top players.......
Posted By: yorsh82
Subject: why the chinese top players.......
Date Posted: 07/13/2008 at 9:14pm
why the chinese top players doesnt use composite blades?
why is that?
obviously is a question to make "guesses" only...but what do u think?
regards
yorsh

-------------
searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :(



Replies:
Posted By: gekogark1212
Date Posted: 07/13/2008 at 9:19pm
Because they use Hurricane. Which is more suited to a flexible 5 ply blade. Also ply wood blades have beeter feeling(vibration) and control for the short game.

-------------
(\__/)

(='.'=) But there's no sense crying over every mistake,

(")_(") You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.


Posted By: BrunodeDanann
Date Posted: 07/13/2008 at 9:44pm
zhang jike uses viscaria and h3. I guess it's just a matter or preference.

-------------
Harimoto ALC
HUrricane 3
Vega asia


Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 07/13/2008 at 10:10pm
Zhang uses a custom ZL Carbon, but both rubbers are Japanese~ Now pre-2004 she was using the Adolescen (All Wood) with H3 and Ekrips, so the H3 can be an issue~

-------------
Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon
Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect
Yinhe Qing


Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 07/13/2008 at 10:33pm
In my opinion, the equipment does not matter much to them. It is their skill more than their equipment.

-------------
http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16429 - Feedback


Posted By: chu_bun
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 12:46am
Originally posted by varghesep varghesep wrote:

In my opinion, the equipment does not matter much to them. It is their skill more than their equipment.
I think this is true for most of us.  I don't really think the matches I lost are because of my equipments.  
 
After bigger ball, glue ban, or whatever, the Chinese still kick and will be still kicking asses. 


Posted By: Henry Hou
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 2:30am
Because the Chinese players would like to use the power by themself.  

-------------
Main:Timo Boll Limited edition(FH:G3 2.1 BH: Tenergy 25 2.1)
Spare1.Timo boll ZLF(FH:G3 2.1 BH: G3 FX 2.1)
Spare2.Timo Boll ALC(FH: G3 2.1 BH:ROXON 450 max)


Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 2:47am
how cute, correct, all hail to nationalism and loyalty for the motherland!

-------------
i lost my racquet

Schlager u beast

http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy



Posted By: TT_Freak
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 6:17am
They simply grew up playing Chinese rubbers and using all wood blades. Pro players are a superstitious bunch. They won't change during the season unless something gets banned or they find something that suits them even better than what they've gotten used to, which is rather rare.

-------------
Violin
F1
Actor

10g at 3 and 9
10g at 12
20g at the end of handle


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 8:00am
because its part of their lives and they training is strictly reinforced, developed and promoted by the communist government

-------------
Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS

ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 12:07pm
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Zhang uses a custom ZL Carbon, but both rubbers are Japanese~ Now pre-2004 she was using the Adolescen (All Wood) with H3 and Ekrips, so the H3 can be an issue~
 
zhang yn was using 2 japanese rubbers before 2004, li xiao i dont know where you get ur info, but is wrong  and if you are naive enuff to believe waht bty claims is other stuff


Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 3:16pm
Ok bbkon, first you can look at any picture of her back then, and pictures were published on fotop of her paddle, maybe you should go look at them~

-------------
Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon
Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect
Yinhe Qing


Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 4:32pm
hard chinese rubbers work better with allwood blades.


Posted By: Hataw Na
Date Posted: 07/14/2008 at 11:07pm
Yyea, I think Skyline's observation is correct. Since Chinese Rubbers are generally hard sponged, they will work well with all wood paddle to compensate for the "hard" feel.  Simply putting these rubbers with equally "hard" carbon composites or the likes, you will be playing with rock hard(sorry), er granite hard paddles, which compromises control.
 
Hataw Na!


-------------
Hataw lang ng hataw!
Butterfly Cypress S
FH - Bty Bryce 2.1 mm Red
RPB - Bty Tackfire D 2.1 mm Blk


Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 7:37am
I believe Wang Liqin's combi is quite hard...
H2!


Posted By: yorsh82
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 8:54am
Originally posted by charlesj charlesj wrote:

I believe Wang Liqin's combi is quite hard...
H2!


yeah...and the HK is also a lot STIFF and HARD, so....what about the softness on their blades that ppl talk about? LOL


-------------
searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :(


Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 10:17am
Well he puts like so much glue the rubber sponge is soft~~

-------------
Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon
Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect
Yinhe Qing


Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 10:57am

If they choose to play with hurricane, which is a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade, their blades need more dwell time. wood blades are softer than ex. carbon blades, so they offer more dwell time, and therefore suits their looping game.



-------------
Butterfly Viscaria
FH: DHS Hurricane 3
BH: Stiga Calibra Sound


Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 11:28am
Originally posted by Skyline Skyline wrote:

hard chinese rubbers work better with allwood blades.


Thats the answer, plain and simple.


-------------
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ take my energy ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ


Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 07/15/2008 at 10:40pm
to me hard rubbers like hurricane are better for smashing and spinny loops (not those powerful ones)


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 2:22am
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Ok bbkon, first you can look at any picture of her back then, and pictures were published on fotop of her paddle, maybe you should go look at them~
 
i trust my eyes and i saw zhang from 3 feet when talking to a journalist


Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 2:26am

how about kong linghui...?

 
 


Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by T h e N A M T h e N A M wrote:

how about kong linghui...?

 
 
 
his blade only has arylate carbon in his backhand. His forehand is still all wood.


-------------
Butterfly Viscaria
FH: DHS Hurricane 3
BH: Stiga Calibra Sound


Posted By: Jeff(ATTC)
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by charlesj charlesj wrote:

to me hard rubbers like hurricane are better for smashing and spinny loops (not those powerful ones)
  I don't know.  You should check out Wang Liqin. Wink


-------------
Bty Jun Mizutani ZLC
FH: D80
BH: D05


Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 7:56pm

yeah, watch him. His loops arent spinny at all.

the reason he has so much power is because his technique is so perfect that he is able to add plenty of power as well as the awesome spin he has.


-------------
Butterfly Viscaria
FH: DHS Hurricane 3
BH: Stiga Calibra Sound


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 9:00pm
Originally posted by Asaomi Asaomi wrote:

If they choose to play with hurricane, which is a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade, their blades need more dwell time. wood blades are softer than ex. carbon blades, so they offer more dwell time, and therefore suits their looping game.

 
Well, Hurricane is certainly more of a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade.....Sleepy


-------------
Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 9:02pm
faen...


-------------
Butterfly Viscaria
FH: DHS Hurricane 3
BH: Stiga Calibra Sound


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 9:08pm
^^

-------------
Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 9:49pm
well I thought hard rubbers are better for smashing and soft rubbers are better for looping?

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Originally posted by Asaomi Asaomi wrote:

If they choose to play with hurricane, which is a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade, their blades need more dwell time. wood blades are softer than ex. carbon blades, so they offer more dwell time, and therefore suits their looping game.

 
Well, Hurricane is certainly more of a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade.....Sleepy


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/16/2008 at 11:33pm
kong did used a composite blade but only on one side the other side has no carbon arylate layer

-------------
Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS

ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 07/17/2008 at 12:59am
Originally posted by TT_Freak TT_Freak wrote:

They simply grew up playing Chinese rubbers and using all wood blades. Pro players are a superstitious bunch. They won't change during the season unless something gets banned or they find something that suits them even better than what they've gotten used to, which is rather rare.


I agree, but their skill level is so high they could use a reader's digest and win.

-------------
For More Info, PM or Email me: [email protected]


Posted By: t_ct
Date Posted: 07/17/2008 at 6:02am
Originally posted by Asaomi Asaomi wrote:

yeah, watch him. His loops arent spinny at all.

the reason he has so much power is because his technique is so perfect that he is able to add plenty of power as well as the awesome spin he has.
 
Kong didnt have alot of power in his strokes though, they were onl average for a top50 player.


Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/17/2008 at 8:29am
Originally posted by t_ct t_ct wrote:

Originally posted by Asaomi Asaomi wrote:

yeah, watch him. His loops arent spinny at all.

the reason he has so much power is because his technique is so perfect that he is able to add plenty of power as well as the awesome spin he has.
 
Kong didnt have alot of power in his strokes though, they were onl average for a top50 player.
 
u know, i was talking about Wang Liqin there


-------------
Butterfly Viscaria
FH: DHS Hurricane 3
BH: Stiga Calibra Sound


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 07/17/2008 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by t_ct t_ct wrote:

Originally posted by Asaomi Asaomi wrote:

yeah, watch him. His loops arent spinny at all.

the reason he has so much power is because his technique is so perfect that he is able to add plenty of power as well as the awesome spin he has.
 
Kong didnt have alot of power in his strokes though, they were onl average for a top50 player.
 
average for top 50 player, wrong, an international ITTf coach kong had the mosr destructive forehand at the time



Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd. - https://www.webwiz.net