I found out what 450 means on the Roxon!
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Topic: I found out what 450 means on the Roxon!
Posted By: gekogark1212
Subject: I found out what 450 means on the Roxon!
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 2:50am
Roxon 450 means that your strokes will land as long as your racket angle is above 45 degrees, thus a Euro stroke works nicely. As you close your blade angle, some freakish quantum mechanics take over and you've got yourself an anti-spin rubber.
I hope the 500 doesn't mean 50 degrees! But I suppose it's possible since it has a harder sponge.
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Posted By: Beer Belly
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 2:54am
Wow that's interesting!
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Posted By: BKTT
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 2:55am
what?! 450 is 45 degrees, 500 is 50 degrees!
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Posted By: gekogark1212
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 2:58am
BKTT wrote:
what?! 450 is 45 degrees, 500 is 50 degrees! |
Yes, the sponge hardness is indicated by the number, I was merely using it as a parody to express my disdain for its lack of brush looping ability
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Posted By: BKTT
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 3:25am
gekogark1212 wrote:
BKTT wrote:
what?! 450 is 45 degrees, 500 is 50 degrees! | Yes, the sponge hardness is indicated by the number, I was merely using it as a parody to express my disdain for its lack of brush looping ability |
hehe
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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 8:07am
BKTT wrote:
what?! 450 is 45 degrees, 500 is 50 degrees! |
I hear they going to release Roxon 1800. Your blade angle should be 180 degree when you hit the ball..
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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 8:24am
what about roxon 0? uh oh, how are u gonna do that huh?!!?!
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Posted By: Pjotr
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 11:32am
theman wrote:
what about roxon 0? uh oh, how are u gonna do that huh?!!?! |
Is the same as the 1800, but on the BH side ;)
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Posted By: ippoN
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 12:18pm
After I played some Roxon's for a while I assume 450 / 500 stands for the amount of money you have to invest per season in buying new Roxons. Never had a rubber which lost so quick its good surface...
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Posted By: bowebj
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 8:58pm
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 9:03pm
Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 9:15pm
maybe I suck, but I am enjoying roxon 450, I am more of a "loop drive" player anyway so it is working, but I am having trouble blocking super spinny brush loops...I have to accurately hit those, so far CAN NOT block them. otherwise, I am loving roxon 450 2.3 have it both sides now... we will see how long it lasts...
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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 10/19/2008 at 9:55am
How long it last Dauntless? I start to play half 1 hour only, the surface seems has tiny chips. smaller than full stop mark.
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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/19/2008 at 10:16am
dragon kid wrote:
BKTT wrote:
what?! 450 is 45 degrees, 500 is 50 degrees! |
I hear they going to release Roxon 1800. Your blade angle should be 180 degree when you hit the ball..
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LOL, very clever!
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Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 10/19/2008 at 10:46am
gekogark1212 wrote:
... Yes, the sponge hardness is indicated by the number, I was merely using it as a parody to express my disdain for its lack of brush looping ability
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When you have said brush looping, where are you hitting on the ball? At the top with 0 degree?
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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/19/2008 at 10:20pm
varghesep wrote:
gekogark1212 wrote:
... Yes, the sponge hardness is indicated by the number, I was merely using it as a parody to express my disdain for its lack of brush looping ability
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When you have said brush looping, where are you hitting on the ball? At the top with 0 degree?
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I don't understand what you mean by "At the top with 0 degree"???
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Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 10/20/2008 at 12:09am
peter79 wrote:
How long it last Dauntless? I start to play half 1 hour only, the surface seems has tiny chips. smaller than full stop mark. |
Sadly I must say that it really does not last that long. I try to take good care, but after about 3 months all of the juice is gone out of the rubber. Probably it last about 6 weeks... but your mileage may vary.
There is no way Roxon 450 is 45 degree, maybe 45 degrees before the inbuilt effect. I mean the rubber is fairly soft. It is not super hard or anything. 38-40 degree Chinese rubber is WAY harder than Roxon.
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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 10/20/2008 at 12:18am
Is the roxon 500 durability also the same as 450?
Thanks for your reply, Dauntless, I'll see how long it last in humid weather.
Perhaps Xiom Zeta is more durable? How's the speed n Spin of Zeta compared to Tenergy, Pryde n Roxon?
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Posted By: gekogark1212
Date Posted: 10/20/2008 at 1:17am
haggisv wrote:
varghesep wrote:
gekogark1212 wrote:
... Yes, the sponge hardness is indicated by the number, I was merely using it as a parody to express my disdain for its lack of brush looping ability
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When you have said brush looping, where are you hitting on the ball? At the top with 0 degree?
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I don't understand what you mean by "At the top with 0 degree"???
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@varghesep: yes, but I didn't even get close to 0 degree (maybe 30 or 20 degrees) when the 450 started to skid and the ball consequently dropping.
I must say, even now, I've only seen Zeta in its first week of use being able to brush-loop, that rubber bites like nothing else, but unfortunately wears out too quickly.
@haggisv: the "0 degree" loop, is the supposedly text book method of brush looping to get the ball to kick and drop on 2nd bounce. Chinese rubbers and glued Srivers (and other rubbers that bite) were really good at this.
Imagine you served light backspin and your opponent has returned it carelessly with little backspin, the ball will bounce twice on your side, but the 2nd bounce will be on the endline. However the ball is rather low, this is where you need that "0 degree loop".
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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/20/2008 at 1:33am
Thanks geko... never heard of this term before! Unless the ball is quite high, you must need a pretty high throw to get it to make it over the net? I can imagine it being very spinny though... just like chopping at the bottom of the ball increases backspin...
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 10/20/2008 at 9:48pm
gekogark1212 wrote:
Roxon 450 means that your strokes will land as long as your racket angle is above 45 degrees, thus a Euro stroke works nicely. As you close your blade angle, some freakish quantum mechanics take over and you've got yourself an anti-spin rubber.
I hope the 500 doesn't mean 50 degrees! But I suppose it's possible since it has a harder sponge.
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very dumb explanation!!!
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 10/20/2008 at 9:53pm
bbkon wrote:
gekogark1212 wrote:
Roxon 450 means that your strokes will land as long as your racket angle is above 45 degrees, thus a Euro stroke works nicely. As you close your blade angle, some freakish quantum mechanics take over and you've got yourself an anti-spin rubber.
I hope the 500 doesn't mean 50 degrees! But I suppose it's possible since it has a harder sponge.
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very dumb explanation!!! |
did you read the further posts? that was a joke...
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