The best new generation RUBBERS (march 2009)
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Topic: The best new generation RUBBERS (march 2009)
Posted By: Asaomi
Subject: The best new generation RUBBERS (march 2009)
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 3:18pm
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Totally ones own opinion ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
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Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 3:20pm
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05 hands down
------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: porrotu
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 3:23pm
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LOL so many options. I think there is no one that could honestly say. I think there is no one in the forum that has tested all those. I might be wrong. ------------- Blade: Joola Chen Weixing FH: Tenergy 64 1.9 BH: TSP Curl P1r 1.4-1.7 "Smash away ill just chop it back" |
Posted By: Ciprian
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 4:40pm
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Is Haifu a tensor?
------------- Xi Enting FH-Aurus Sound BH- Pryde 30 |
Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 4:57pm
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tenergy and haifu arent tensors. ------------- Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect Yinhe Qing |
Posted By: tiburon74
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 5:02pm
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tenergy is not a tensor???, i believe that the string sponge technology of butterfly is for tensor rubbers ------------- 1 Ply Hinoki Club Darker Speed 90 Tenergy 05 |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 5:04pm
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i know, but you get the picture ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 5:31pm
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What is Tenergy considered if it is not a tensor?
------------- Kreanga Aeros ST FH: Tenergy 05 Red 2.1 BH: Flarestorm II Black 2.1 |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 5:59pm
You can say the Tenergy has built-in tension like tensor rubbers. The Tenergy is of spring sponge technology while Tensor has its own technology.
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wawaicetea123 wrote:Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 6:09pm
So Tenergy has some sort of special chemical in the rubber top sheet to make it elastic as if it were physically stretched? I always thought it just has a springy sponge like speed glued. |
Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 7:52pm
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The top two so far are Roxon 450(500) and Tenergy 05 (as of this writing) and I have tried both. I have only had a hit with T05 and R450 I played with for quite a while. Seems to me that Tenergy is the better OVERALL of the two with my limited experience with the BTY rubber. (Serves better, loops better -- trajectory is disrupting to opponent, and drives- hits pretty well too) R450 has better short game, but that is just my opinion... If I played with T05 I would probably like it better overall. So I am voting for T05. Tensor is a name brand of ESN right? It is a ESN specific designation for a ESN based rubber and does not apply to non-ESN rubbers. I knew what the author meant though... and I understand that writing out "in-built speed glue effect type rubbers, both tensor and others" is kinda long  ------------- 1. BTY Primorac, Nittaku H3N, T64 2. BTY Primorac, H3N, Mendo MP http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=56416 - Feedback |
Posted By: Heimdallalso
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 8:59pm
Tenergy is considered as part of the Tenergy Family!  Tensors are Tensors! http://www.tensor.de - www.tensor.de I currently favor my Palio MACRO ERA. I also liked Andro Plasma380 & Impuls rubbers a great deal. I am not completely certain but at some point saw Yasaka XtendSG classified as one also. I hit with and enjoyed it too though it certainly seemed different that the Andro & MACRO ERA. I dig Tensors. ------------- NEXY Lissom st 85g fh/ Andro Impuls Speed max bh/ Palio Flying Dragon 1.8 |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 8:59pm
There is a little of stretch on the top sheets of all the rubbers. The tension comes from the sponge and top sheet. It is the case with Tenergy series as well as Tensors.
I think we may see more new technologies in this area.
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Posted By: jpingchow123
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 9:09pm
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Kind of biased here but I've used Srivers for a while and I have to say I'm a Sriver fan. The Sriver G3 FX is just lovely imo. Using it now and loving it.
------------- Amultart CS Bryce Speed 2.1 Tackifire Special Soft 2.1 YEO Bryce Speed 2.1 Tackifire Special Soft 2.1 |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 11:59am
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T05 "currently" has the lead xP ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 12:08pm
| I like the Stiga Boost series. I don't say they're better than tenergy though. |
Posted By: ffx-me
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 12:13pm
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Ya tenergy is not a tensor, a tensor has a stretched topsheet while tenergy has bubbles in the sponge to make it faster. Tensors are tensors and IQUL and tenergy are in the same family, BWII is just a normal rubber that has been tuned, to technology at all
------------- -Primorac 2000, 802 + globe 999 quattro -Korbel, Cream MRS + 802-40 |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 12:26pm
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changed the title. i hope this makes the experts happy ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 12:28pm
they're just some whining.
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Posted By: stoic
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 12:37pm
| I've tried most of these rubbers, and prefer the 64 the most. Having played with H3 provincial glued up for 4 years, it was the easiest to switch too. If blue whale II tuned lasted longer, I might of voted for it. |
Posted By: notfound123
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 12:45pm
| How about Donic Desto series (F1-F3)? They are pretty popular too, aren't they? |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 12:46pm
i know... i was trying to sound sarcastic :D ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 12:49pm
they are, but they arent considered new generation rubbers. or are they? ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: pongcrazy
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 3:45pm
Actually I think Donic made some slight changes to the Desto F series to help durability which would make it 4th generation tensor. First version would be considered 3rd generation. Most of the list here is containing 4th and 4.5 generation tensors. None of the Butterfly rubbers listed here are actually tensors but are of a newer production series so i guess thats why they're included.
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Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 8:07pm
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I really like Tenergy 05. I could use it on FH or BH. Blue Wale II feels good to, i just hate how much i have to take care of it.
------------- Kreanga Aeros ST FH: Tenergy 05 Red 2.1 BH: Flarestorm II Black 2.1 |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 03/09/2009 at 7:09pm
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bump ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 03/09/2009 at 9:11pm
lol ------------- 1. BTY Primorac, Nittaku H3N, T64 2. BTY Primorac, H3N, Mendo MP http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=56416 - Feedback |
Posted By: ibupro
Date Posted: 03/09/2009 at 9:30pm
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I've tried all but Xiom and Nittaku, Tenergy 64. On YEO Boost TP is best imo. Best combo of speed spin and control. More speedy loops than any of the others on carbon blades. Roxon 450 and Platin 2nd place. On composite blades Tenergy is very good, though still lacking speed imo, and Platin becomes hard to control while TP and Roxon 450 are still very good. |
Posted By: patrick1v
Date Posted: 03/09/2009 at 10:10pm
| according to bty catalogue the top sheet is high tension similar to bryce with the new spring sponge |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 03/10/2009 at 3:27am
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German tensors are very fragile. Tenergy and Boost are my options. . Tenergy is more suitable for well trained players. They give more spin but on the other hand are very susceptible to opponent's spin. So, on passive shots Tenergys are not the ideal rubbers. If you are very active player Tenergys are highly reccomended. Boosts are easier to play. ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 03/10/2009 at 10:24am
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I vote for Tenergy 05 but I didn't try yet other japanese made like Boost or Renanos. Tensors for me is out of question. ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: Heimdallalso
Date Posted: 03/10/2009 at 10:30am
I think this was the case with the early generation Tensors. The newer generations are not so. This has been my experience. ------------- NEXY Lissom st 85g fh/ Andro Impuls Speed max bh/ Palio Flying Dragon 1.8 |
Posted By: Dagoboz
Date Posted: 03/10/2009 at 11:27am
| This poll is kinda suspect. A better discussion would be, "Name all the new generation rubbers you have tried and on what blades and which do you like best and why". |
Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 03/10/2009 at 11:53am
You are right. It also has to do with the tension in the rubbers. If they have too much tension, it is prone to break.
I also have to say this. The argument of tensors are fragile can't be considered if the glue used on those rubbers have VOCs. Use water based glue only.
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Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 03/10/2009 at 11:55am
I have to agree with that. There are so many factors need to be considered. The skill also matters.
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Posted By: Heimdallalso
Date Posted: 03/10/2009 at 12:01pm
Thank You Good Sir for that explanation & advice. I have heard that some do speed glue Tensors & that it will most probably shorten it's life considerably if not "ruin" it altogether; however, on their site they do make mention of some Tensors that can be SG. I myself would never speed glue or treat a Tensor. @ my level & for my purposes, no need. ------------- NEXY Lissom st 85g fh/ Andro Impuls Speed max bh/ Palio Flying Dragon 1.8 |
Posted By: zrrbiteDK
Date Posted: 03/10/2009 at 12:46pm
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Express or Narucross Ex
------------- Current: Avalox BT777 / ? / ? |
Posted By: grubbafan
Date Posted: 03/11/2009 at 4:26am
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Tibhar Nimbus VIP. Good speed and spin, and great for blocking. ------------- Blade : Butterfly Andrzej Grubba FL FH : Butterfly Sriver BH : Butterfly Sriver |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 03/11/2009 at 5:51am
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Good power loopers destroy a german tensor glued with WATER GLUE after 10-20 hours. I know sponsored players replacing their tensors ever more frequently because of sponge-topsheets separations. Flat hitters maintain their tensors longer. I'm sorry to say, but it's funny to compare the durability of Japanese and German rubbers. ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: holda
Date Posted: 03/11/2009 at 5:32pm
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I voted for Donic JO Coppa Platinum,soft version.
I do like Joola green energy as well,but it is not listed above.The two sheets are very much like. |
Posted By: rustyfo
Date Posted: 03/11/2009 at 6:12pm
which brands are included in being "german tensors" ? ------------- Blade: Tibhar Samsonov Alpha FH: Tenergy 05 BH: Acuda S1 |
Posted By: Heimdallalso
Date Posted: 03/11/2009 at 8:31pm
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http://forum.oneofakindtrading.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=3906 - http://forum.oneofakindtrading.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=3906
------------- NEXY Lissom st 85g fh/ Andro Impuls Speed max bh/ Palio Flying Dragon 1.8 |
Posted By: addoydude
Date Posted: 03/11/2009 at 8:43pm
| What about LKT Rapid series? |