Top defenders' rackets
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Topic: Top defenders' rackets
Posted By: ccsltt
Subject: Top defenders' rackets
Date Posted: 06/08/2009 at 1:29pm
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There is some ( crazy ?) rumor that Joo Se Hyuk uses inverted (smooth) rubber both sides. I find it hard to believe. I personally looked at Chen Weixing's racket and he does use thin sponge Joola long-pips one side and smooth spinny Joola on the other side (of course this does not have to do anything with mostly with what Joo may choose). I saw a picture of supoosedly Joo�s racket in this forum with a P1-Curl but P1-Curl is not even legal (P1-Curl R is but I did not see the R on it) . then he went with Buttefly it seems and now it is hard to say what he uses based on claims by Butterfly websites or catlogs Has anyone seen the rackets of Joo and the other two Korean women choppers Park Mi Young and Kim Kyung Ah ? How can these three players chop almost better than their long-pips (I think) backhands on their forehands but yet launch lightening quick forehand loops ? How thick or thin is their forehand rubbers ? But for the Koreans defensive play would be dead I think In contrast what do the European defenders and Chinese transplants (more like rejects) in Europe use ? Probably Butterfly Feint Long due to sponsorships ? Historically Japan , China & India also always produced choppers but now all three totally abandoned that style it seems.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 06/08/2009 at 2:17pm
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It is quite possible that they twiddle the racket when they need to chop from FH ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: ccsltt
Date Posted: 06/08/2009 at 3:29pm
Not from what I have seen (except serving) but even if true regardless I am more interested in finding out what equipment they use
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JimT wrote:Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 06/08/2009 at 7:23pm
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I think earlier on he experimented with normal and anti rubbers. There was something about that before. I think he is using P1-r in 1.3mm now, on diod? (spelling?) with joo handle. ------------- http://avatars.jurko.net"> 
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Posted By: Beer Belly
Date Posted: 06/08/2009 at 11:30pm
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You mean the BTY Diode?
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Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 2:44am
Thats the one beerbelly. ------------- http://avatars.jurko.net">
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Posted By: bleachfan92
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 2:50am
| joo uses matsush*ta pro alpha now due to the speed glue ban with tenergy 64 on forehand and supposedly TSP long pips on the back. |
Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 2:55am
Thanks for the update! I was not sure what his new equipment would be after the ban. ------------- http://avatars.jurko.net">
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 3:24am
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Posted By: SSKUO
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 3:44am
| I SAW JOO`S GAME THIS YEAR. HE STILL USE HIS JOO RACKET. DO NOT TRUST THE INFORMATION IN JAPAN`S BTY WEBSITE.. |
Posted By: bleachfan92
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 3:52am
| i believe they customed the blade for him with joo handle but the blade itself is matsush*ta. but from the recent games his blade dont seem to be joo anymore? kim kyung ah is still using joo se hyuk nevertheless. |
Posted By: Beer Belly
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 10:03am
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Matsush*ta is a soft blade compared to the Joo blade. Has Joo switched to a softer blade for better spin variation? This will have an impact on his forehand I reckon!
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Posted By: Ryu_S_M
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 10:26am
| I think it's special made blade with faster forehand o slower backhand. |
Posted By: feint2
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 1:54pm
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Which rubber is Joo currently using on his forehand, Tenergy 64 ?
I found him better in his forehand defence, it's strange because from what I heard tensor rubbers are not good for defense chops.
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Posted By: a23096713
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 2:03pm
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Tensor rubber that simulate speed glue rubber (for me at least) is easier to chop then non-speed glue rubber. It has better touch for controlling the ball back to table. The only problem is, I don't feel my chop is as heavy as it should have been.
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 3:46pm
| I thought Joo use tackifire Drive on fh ? Like 1.9 or 1.7mm ? |
Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 4:01pm
First of all. What does that have to do with anything? Second, I see her looping in every match I have seen her..
Edit: leif ------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0 |
Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 7:23pm
That was before the glue ban... ------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
Posted By: gnopgnipster
Date Posted: 06/09/2009 at 9:01pm
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Joo was using a Joo Se Hyuk blade at the Last Chinese tournament. ------------- Hardbat: Valor Champion/FH/BH-Valor Premier-OX Regular:Valor Big Stick FH-Apollo II & BH-Globe 979 OX |
Posted By: bleachfan92
Date Posted: 06/10/2009 at 2:45am
| yes hes using a joo in the china vs world match. |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 06/10/2009 at 2:14pm
yes,i ve seen her playing and warmin
>>>> but yet launch lightening quick forehand loops ? >>
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Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 06/10/2009 at 3:50pm
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I don't understand why Joo is considered defender. He is an allround player. Defenders are Koji Matsush*ta and Eugeniy Shchetinine. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki club |
Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 06/10/2009 at 5:50pm
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I think his style is modern defense, an evolution of style to the classic defense.
Ding song is one of the creators to this new style that lead away from the classical defense of matsush*ta and shibutani. ------------- http://avatars.jurko.net">
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/10/2009 at 8:15pm
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i think chen uses the joola drum for his inverted, its identical to h3
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/10/2009 at 8:16pm
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btw, you would know that joo uses an LP in his bh because everytime he chops with his bh the sound is a dull "tok" sound
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Posted By: pongmaster
Date Posted: 06/10/2009 at 9:18pm
------------- Blade: BTY Matsush*ta Pro Special Arylate Carbon FH:H3 BH:Spectol |
Posted By: firetack
Date Posted: 06/11/2009 at 12:21am
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there is tsp reflex off/def ------------- Black Balsa 3.0 fh/tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox |
Posted By: ianworz
Date Posted: 06/11/2009 at 1:01am
There are already several combo blades on the market ( I know Dr. Neubauer makes one as well as Hallmark) I think if you only used carbon on one side of the blade you may run into some tension issues which might cause the blade to warp ( I could be wrong), but perhaps if you used carbon on one side and kevlar on the other, the two synthetic materials and their appropriate bonding methods may even out the internal tension as well as give a large variance in playing characteristics. Maybe I'll try this out when I get an order of carbon and kevlar in. ------------- http://worzbeatsticks.blogspot.com - Worz Beat Stick WBS Takehaya FH: H3 No. 21 BH:Spectol |