What's your comment on Neo H2, H3, TG2 and TG3?
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Topic: What's your comment on Neo H2, H3, TG2 and TG3?
Posted By: ttrubberman
Subject: What's your comment on Neo H2, H3, TG2 and TG3?
Date Posted: 07/27/2009 at 2:16pm
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If you have tried them, please post your review. Personally, I have tried the H2, H3 and TG3. I will try the TG2 tomorrow. I wish I can make a more complete review on those new NEO rubbers. I will post my review on my site and also here, on or before coming Wednesday. |
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Posted By: mwyatt
Date Posted: 07/27/2009 at 2:22pm
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I would be interested to hear about the H3 neo, I've ordered a sheet myself the other day to try it out. ------------- http://mawyatt.com"> 
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 07/27/2009 at 9:47pm
| looking forward to the review.... |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/27/2009 at 9:50pm
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I'llgo to the post office in one hour, if rubberman sent it a week ago I'll have it, if not then it's his own fault for me having no review tonight :) But we will see ------------- |
Posted By: DeathAngel
Date Posted: 07/27/2009 at 10:51pm
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I hope to get my rubber in tomorow :P.
------------- Korbel ST H3 Neo 2.2 Desto F3 2.0 USA: 1522 CAN: 809 |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 12:40am
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I got mine :D All I have to say so far is that the red sheet of H2 NEO weighs 62 grams on the official post office scales and I've also got to say. That it's by far the stickiest topsheet I've ever seen in my life. I could hardly remove it from the scales or the bench, or anything it touched...... :P Plus it's a toxic smelling s o b, stunk out the whole place and made my eyes hurt. Dunno how that's 4 parts per million more like 4000 P.S I'm playing with it tonight but I've been awake since 3am so don't expect miricles ------------- |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 1:07am
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They all stink like hell. Both old and new. When I opened the parcel it was like a chemical bomb exploded. Probably this is part of the new winning strategy. You will stink-shot the adversary before he knew. |
Posted By: DeathAngel
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 1:25am
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Imago what are you used to using?
------------- Korbel ST H3 Neo 2.2 Desto F3 2.0 USA: 1522 CAN: 809 |
Posted By: ThaiLe
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 1:27am
+1... |
bagung wrote:Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 1:30am
3 weeks ago got my first H2 and H3 com (absolute Schlager on Shark X686). Now waiting for the h3 neo pro and considering what else to give a try to - H Neo or TG Neo.
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Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 2:51am
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P.S the ITTF number on the H2 NEO is 24-002
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Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 4:22am
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One more little update before I go play with this Neo h2, Tack demo It's stupid tacky, so I hope it runs in before I play and yes incase you doubt your eyes that is the ball landing on the rubber and sticking everytime it bounces back up to the bat while upside down http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onLQrkJBTVc And now I'm going to play, seems the same as normal H2 to me so far, just a bit more tacky ------------- |
Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 5:41am
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I like the tackyness 0.0 ------------- Member of Wang Hao fan club. Hurricane Hao III FH: Thors RPB: Omega Pro |
Posted By: ErikaT
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 5:46am
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wow quite alot of peple are getting the neo rubbers
i will be trying out the rubbers abit later, and iwill post some reviews at the link below MY LINK
thx ------------- 
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Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 6:03am
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nice! I like sticky! I wonder among the NEOs, which one would generate the most spin.... |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 11:17am
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I'm back! give me ten minute rest and I'll type my review
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Posted By: ttrubberman
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 11:47am
http://blog.ttrubberman.com/?p=385 - Review on Neo H2, H3 TG2 and TG3July 28th, 2009Finally, I have tested all Neo rubbers, although they are used in different blades, that�s not an ideal setting for testing. BTW, Here is my remarks: Neo Hurricane 2: This is a true Wang Liqin rubbers, fast and low looping, I can say this rubber is the fastest. However, I found that it�s not spiny, it�s not good for player who prefer high looping and low touching point. In the testing setting, it is glued with a Donic non-carbon 5-plywood, the blade is not fast but the speed of the forehand stroke is really impressed. I think it will be a good rubber for Hurricane King, fast looping. Neo Hurricane 3: This is the best Hurricane 3 I have tried in this year, it�s even better than the Provincial H3 factory tuned. It is fast, spiny and good in control, completely the feeling of the old #20 Hurricane 3 with speed glue, this rubber is the one I love most, I think this rubber is good for all H3 lovers. If this rubber is glued on a thick 5-plywood, it will be very powerful and spiny. Neo Skyline 2: The performance is similar to Hurricane 3, but it�s even faster. Faster on 2 parts: the ball bounce in and out the sponge is faster, and the speed is faster. I think the topsheet of Skyline 2 is thinner, it makes the rubber better on hand feeling, the rubber seems it is excited, the ball in and out into the sponge very fast, it is energized! Skyline 2 is pro on spin, it is as spiny as Hurricane 3 but faster. I think this rubber can work with 5-plywood like YEO very well. Neo Skyline 3: This is the best balanced rubbers, a mixed with Skyline 2 and Hurricane 2, it is fast and spiny. Actually, the performance of Skyline 2 and 3 are very closed, but skyline 3 is a bit faster but a bit not spiny as skyline 2. It is not significant, maybe I don�t have long enough time to test, and maybe they are used with different blade. BTW, I do think skyline series have thiner and better topsheet, so that they react faster. As a conclude, Neo series is the best and new generation of rubbers so far, it�s true glue free, simply apply water glue on the blade, dry and put them together, that�s all. Booster? Tuner? There is no need. There are some rumours that the glue must be removed, it will perform even better. It may be true because you can make a even thinner water glue on the sponge, it can improved a bit. However, the removing work is not easy, and trouble. Actually, I found no problem for not removing the glue in the test. Finally, this is not a precise testing as I cannot get use all neo rubbers on the same blade, but I wish this article can help you all to understand more about Neo. Please feel free to post your comment, thanks. http://blog.ttrubberman.com |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 12:08pm
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Sounds fair :), I think H2 is a very good kind of rubber to be used without glue, getting more rebound on the Skylines probably makes them better than when non glued as they would be a lower powered rubber to begin with. But the Neo H2 is just pushing it a bit too far. Totally agree that they sound glued and go glued, for all intent are glued but I can see why the pros are still using boosted blue sponge
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Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 2:12pm
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looks like the h2 is begining to become popular again
------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Rack
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 3:11pm
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Wow Neo H3 commercial better than the factory tuned? I might have to dabble in it then. ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin YEO (1st) , Yasaka Extra CPEN (2nd) FH - H3 NEO Pro 2.15 40H BH - Tenergy 64 2.1 |
Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 4:46pm
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hmmm.... besides the spin... I hope to know the weight as compared to old series... anyone? :) |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 4:48pm
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62 grams my sheet of H2 neo 2.15, I would guess the weight hasn't changed? or got heavier... ------------- |
Posted By: Waldmeister
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 6:21pm
62 uncut isn t that heavy, i had some H2 and TG2 over 70. ------------- P�����������������������h |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 6:28pm
Is that XiEnting Shark x686? did you post anywhere your impressions on it? ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 6:31pm
Even better than provincial pre tuned? thats pretty big words. ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Master_of_loops
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 6:50pm
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So, Neo H3 + Ebenholz VII = Looping machine! ------------- 
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Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 6:54pm
who said that? ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Master_of_loops
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 6:57pm
Onaj sto ti jebo mamu u picku - Master_of_loops! -------------
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Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 7:00pm
thats...great ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: ttrubberman
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 9:24pm
Oh, I forgot to tell, I use Neo H3 with Ebenholz V in the review, wonderfully great! |
Posted By: ttrubberman
Date Posted: 07/28/2009 at 9:28pm
Factory tuned Prov. H3 has better quality control, you got several pieces of the same hardness and thickness, they perform the same. But Commercial is commercial level, even you got the same hardness and thickness, they may perform a bit different, that's why Prov H3 is favorite of many players. I says it is better than prov FT H3 is that the Neo H3 is really fast and spiny, true free from glue, the tuning is even better than the factory tuned of the old H3. |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/29/2009 at 12:20am
Blue sponge is normally under 60 (high 50s) ------------- |
Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 07/29/2009 at 11:54am
Looks like powerpingpong's theory of tuned Prov H3 is the new NEO is not so correct based on your review... so they are really different things |
Posted By: cagaragesales
Date Posted: 07/29/2009 at 12:25pm
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I agree that Tuned Provincial and NEO Commercial are two different things. Never said that they were. I do think that the tuning (longer lasting tuning, unlike the BW2 tuning) on the Factory Tuned H3 Provincial is the same technology used on the NEOs. Provincial H3s were always more on the grippy side than the tacky side. Commercials were always on the tacky side. With grip, you get consistent control throughout the entire shot. Commercials, you have several blinds spots during the shot due to inconsistencies in the tackiness. That's why certain parts of the H3 Commercial will grab the ball longer than other parts. I'm in my third session of testing these rubbers. I have them all on the same weight Clipper CR to provide a more controlled environment on my testing of the different variables (the 4 different NEOS rubbers). I'll be posting up video reviews shortly. Some pictures and videos are already up on my sites. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16722&KW= - CaGaragesales Feedback |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 07/29/2009 at 12:48pm
MOL - this is your last warning. If you don't want your account suspended, refrain from using swearwords even in obscure languages, OK? There are people here who understand you just fine... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 07/29/2009 at 1:50pm
| TG2 is really faster than H3? I didn't see that coming... unless it always was? (never used TG2) |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/29/2009 at 3:09pm
I see nothing on your site yet, but I'm wondering who won the games in Hong Kong between rubberman you and boz :) ------------- |
Posted By: cagaragesales
Date Posted: 07/29/2009 at 10:09pm
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The games were all fairly close. I don't remember the exact numbers as it was more of a friendship match than a competitive match, but I believe boz and I played two matches, and ttrubberman and I played 2 matches. cagaragesales and bozbrisvegas: 1st match: 6-11, 10-12 (best of 3) 2nd match: 8-11, 11-8, 10-13(best of 5) cagaragesales and ttrubberman: 1st match: (best of 3) 11-6, 22-20 2nd match: (best of 5) I don't remember the game points, except I remember we were tied 15-15 on the game. I won 3-2 in the match. bozbrisvegas and ttrubberman: 1st match: (best of 3) I believe 11-7, 11-6 Keep in mind that it was not a competitive match, as I'm sure all of us would be playing different and would have come much more prepared. Anyhow, does anyone know of a software I can use to convert .mov files to an uploadable file onto photobucket? I have all the videos(unedited) but it takes forever to upload them. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16722&KW= - CaGaragesales Feedback |
Posted By: Beer Belly
Date Posted: 07/30/2009 at 3:23am
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EJism rising...
------------- http://www.pipfacts.info/ - Welcome to the Dark Side BTY Joo Se Hyuk | Tenergy64 2.1 | TSP P1-R 1mm Chop til you drop baby! |
Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 07/30/2009 at 5:45am
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cagaragesales, hope to see your reviews on the 4 NEO rubbers soon :) DHS claimed a boost of spin for NEO rubbers... I'm pretty much interested to see which one out of the 4 rubbers has the best spin performance. Weight comparison against the old rubbers would be interesting as well. |
Posted By: ttrubberman
Date Posted: 07/30/2009 at 8:27am
What a exciting game with you, friend!  |
Posted By: chocolate
Date Posted: 07/31/2009 at 2:04pm
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I am thinking of trying an H3 on my Clipper Classic.
Which hardness should I try? Is 40H 2.2 considedered the standard for these rubbers?
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Posted By: ttrubberman
Date Posted: 07/31/2009 at 9:02pm
| Clipper? I think 40degree is good for most people. |
Posted By: BeaverMD
Date Posted: 07/31/2009 at 10:27pm
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Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 07/31/2009 at 11:06pm
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Stick them on youtube, get with the times:)
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Posted By: cagaragesales
Date Posted: 07/31/2009 at 11:09pm
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LoL! I wish I could! Youtube is banned in China. Tommyzai and Hookshot is feeling the pain too!
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Posted By: cagaragesales
Date Posted: 08/01/2009 at 4:55am
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Thanks BeaverMD!
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Posted By: Waldmeister
Date Posted: 08/01/2009 at 9:46am
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Schoeler-micke ( german tt-store ) have the neos already for sale. Somewhat confusing, since i still didn t find them on the big china-webshops or even the dhs-HP. ------------- P�����������������������h |
Posted By: chocolate
Date Posted: 08/02/2009 at 2:29am
| Will Neo H3 pick up the ball? |