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Topic: VOC-Free Glue Sheets (Donic)
Posted By: DreiZ
Subject: VOC-Free Glue Sheets (Donic)
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 1:49am

 

*updated
 
has anyone used these voc free glue sheets
 
this guy in the video is using the Donic brand ones that i found on megaspin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcMHqErX7fY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcMHqErX7fY
http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=d-glue-sheet - http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=d-glue-sheet
 
was wondering how good are they in terms of adhesiveness and peeling them off. im kinda tired of the mess the voc free glue makes. also after glueing my bw2 that had a tuning layer on it, after cutting the edges kept peeling off because of tuning....
im thinking of trying the h3 neo that has a slight layer of tuning on it? (if im right), these sheets might be less of a mess to glue the rubber.?


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FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm
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Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 2:27am
I heard bad things about Yasaka's glue.. Tibhar clean fix and Butterfly freechack are very good, even though I favor butterfly a tiny bit more.

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Posted By: despoticwalnut
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 2:56am
How is Donic Vario Clean?


Posted By: pingpongrob
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 3:13am
Originally posted by despoticwalnut despoticwalnut wrote:

How is Donic Vario Clean?

I use it or the Andro free glue for all my bat make ups, and that equates to about 40 a week.  never had a problem with either of them.


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Posted By: despoticwalnut
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 4:06am
Originally posted by pingpongrob pingpongrob wrote:


Originally posted by despoticwalnut despoticwalnut wrote:

How is Donic Vario Clean?
I use it or the Andro free glue for all my bat make ups, and that equates to about 40 a week.� never had a problem with either of them.

Awesome. I was wondering since it's about 6 dollars more for the same amount of free chack.


Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 4:08am
so far, nothing beats Nittaky Finezip.  only problem is...its the most expensive glue.  peels off the sponge really easy!  i absolutely love that part about Finezip!

Joola X-glue is decently priced and plays well.  Just dont expect to remove the glue from the sponge though...


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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 1:54pm
This is like very old arguments about what is better -- an Olds or a Buick?


Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

This is like very old arguments about what is better -- an Olds or a Buick?


Neither!  lol  


I'm more than happy with using Tear Mender now after using Rubber cement when I started. Tear Mender is super cheap and comes of the sponge so easy. 



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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 3:35pm
Do you extra thin it?


Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 05/16/2010 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

Do you extra thin it?


Not sure who your asking or which glue your referring to Imago.  

But Tear Mender does not need thinning.  Its like milk and you can apply a pretty thin layer if you want. 




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Posted By: Erikson45
Date Posted: 05/17/2010 at 11:25pm
I enjoy using DHS no.15 glue but recently I've switched to Nitakku Finezip upon hearing from my friend that the Chinese and Japanese teams were using it =o

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Posted By: figgie
Date Posted: 05/17/2010 at 11:34pm
Originally posted by ohhgourami ohhgourami wrote:

so far, nothing beats Nittaky Finezip.  only problem is...its the most expensive glue.  peels off the sponge really easy!  i absolutely love that part about Finezip!

Joola X-glue is decently priced and plays well.  Just dont expect to remove the glue from the sponge though...
 
 
how often do you guys remove the rubber and the other question is, why in the hell would you?
 
Once I glue, that rubber does not come off my blade until it is going to get replaced. That means 6 months-10 months of playing.


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Posted By: geotjakra
Date Posted: 05/18/2010 at 3:03am
I heard Haifu WBG and a Chinese  WBG, "Bian Pie" is very good. I don't know about their availability outside of Indonesia, but here they are two of the most recommended WBG. (caution: Haifu has a very strong urine smell, I personally never use this yet) but I have good experience with Bian Pie, easy to apply and easy to clean when the time come for replacing the rubber.) Bian Pie is sold for around 2-4 US dollars for a 35ml bottle (which probably can stick about 15-20 rubber sheets. (comes with sponges and a clip for holding the sponge). 


Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/18/2010 at 8:42am
Haifu WBG requires a hair dryer and some patience to use.  You will need a lot of layers to get the rubber to stick.


Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 3:12am
anyone else tried the yasaka mizunori water based glue?
 
i need to get a glue with yasaka xtend hs? so i can get free shipping from megaspin.net
 
so can anyone suggest a good glue on megaspin site?


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Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 8:52am
Try the Donic Formula First.  




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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 05/22/2010 at 11:46am
has anyone used these voc free glue sheets
 
this guy in the video is using the Donic brand ones that i found on megaspin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcMHqErX7fY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcMHqErX7fY
http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=d-glue-sheet - http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=d-glue-sheet
 
was wondering how good are they in terms of adhesiveness and peeling them off. im kinda tired of the mess the voc free glue makes. also after glueing my bw2 that had a tuning layer on it, after cutting the edges kept peeling off because of tuning....
im thinking of trying the h3 neo that has a slight layer of tuning on it? (if im right), these sheets might be less of a mess to glue the rubber.?
 
so has anyone tried any of the glue sheets?


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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm
USATT: 1725


Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 05/22/2010 at 12:27pm
I use Donic Vario Clean Glue, works great.  When peeling off old rubber, comes off fairly clean but leaves tiny bits of glue on your blade.  Using your fingertips, just brush lightly over the blade face 10 times and it all comes off clean.  The sponge clip is very nice.  Lets you apply the glue uniformly and thin.

I've used up my bottle of 90ml in last year.  It's enough for about 20-30 rubbers.  And no, I don't switch rubbers that many times in a year.  I help other people reglue out of kindness.  I'm not that bad of an EJ.  :-)


Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 05/22/2010 at 10:33pm
bump on updated qs?

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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm
USATT: 1725


Posted By: karabijntje
Date Posted: 05/23/2010 at 9:56am
Originally posted by figgie figgie wrote:

how often do you guys remove the rubber and the other question is, why in the hell would you?
 
Once I glue, that rubber does not come off my blade until it is going to get replaced. That means 6 months-10 months of playing.

I usually reglue them once again, usually after about 2months (I'm mostly getting new ones after about 3-4 months. They feel more fresh and lively again for me.


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Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/23/2010 at 4:23pm
I have used Yasaka glue. TERRIBLE. HORRIBLE. AWFUL. Waste of money.

Nittaku Finezip is the best water based glue out there. Works like a champ.


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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 05/23/2010 at 6:03pm

where can you get nittaku finezip (US stores)? i dont feel like paying alot for shipping from other countries.

and bump on my second q about the Donic Glue Sheets
 
ps dauntless ur sig is awesome Big%20smile


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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm
USATT: 1725


Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/24/2010 at 1:20am
Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

where can you get nittaku finezip (US stores)? i dont feel like paying alot for shipping from other countries.

and bump on my second q about the Donic Glue Sheets
 
ps dauntless ur sig is awesome Big%20smile


paddlepalace is the place to get it.
thanks, did it in PS CS4


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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 05/24/2010 at 2:11am
hey dauntless clear ur pm box

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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm
USATT: 1725


Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/24/2010 at 2:56am
Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

hey dauntless clear ur pm box

Sorry, didn't realize it was full.


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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 05/24/2010 at 4:00am
Dauntless, is your tenergy shrink using finezip? How many layers do you put the finezip on your tenergy?

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Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/24/2010 at 4:33am
i have no shrink it is a new sheet. i just wonder how it will behave. finezip normally produces no irregularity in size like voc can do.

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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 05/24/2010 at 4:54am
Dauntless, I''ve seen your review at paddle palace about finezip. You said that you have difficulties attaching your rubber with finezip on your 2 layer water based sealed blade.
How many layers do you put? Has this problem solved now?

I also sealed 2 thin coats on water base sealer on my Acoustic, I put 5 layers of haifu WBG, it stick very well, only the part of the rubber where I put my index finger that is peeled off because my index finger keep pressing the rubber.
I pull it off then reglue it, put more glue on the area which peels off, now it stick very well.


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H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
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Posted By: AllezCho
Date Posted: 05/24/2010 at 9:24pm
I also use Nittaku Finezip (recommended to me by my coach) and it works fine to simply attach a rubber to a blade. Nothing extraordinary, nothing special, nothing bad either. Like other water-based glues, it is very difficult to pull off the sponge. The only downside is the price, it is one of the most expensive glues. But hey, it works, why risk experimenting with other glues that might mess up your rubbers/blades? 

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Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/24/2010 at 11:13pm
Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Dauntless, I''ve seen your review at paddle palace about finezip. You said that you have difficulties attaching your rubber with finezip on your 2 layer water based sealed blade.
How many layers do you put? Has this problem solved now?

I also sealed 2 thin coats on water base sealer on my Acoustic, I put 5 layers of haifu WBG, it stick very well, only the part of the rubber where I put my index finger that is peeled off because my index finger keep pressing the rubber.
I pull it off then reglue it, put more glue on the area which peels off, now it stick very well.


It was because I did not let it become entirely clear. I tried it again later (my review had a follow up) and it worked great!


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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 05/24/2010 at 11:38pm
my YEO is sealed but it seems like with a very light coat (from megaspin). think finezip would work?
 
bump on the donic glue sheets review?


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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm
USATT: 1725


Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 05/25/2010 at 6:52pm

can anyone review the donic glue sheets from megaspin. THey are in the link i updated the first post. plz urgent?

they would be to be used with xtend hs and h3 neo


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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm
USATT: 1725


Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/25/2010 at 7:33pm
The YEO will need a light coat of seal if you plan to EJ a lot of rubbers on it. If you are going to just leave them on, then its up to you. When I pulled off rubbers from my YEO there were thin and very small splinters coming off. If you plan to seal, Andro water based sealer works very, very well. Maybe the same as Donic and Xiom formula. As far as factory YEO seal, if it has one, it did not prevent splinters. As far as seal from megaspin, if you PAID for a coat of seal and they explicitly said they did that, then maybe you don't need to seal. Water based glues are strong and on certain softer outer plys, the ply can be damaged badly if you peel too fast/too much/wrong direction to the grain. Best bet is a light coat of water based seal -- realize this seal WILL change the blade to varying degrees. More coats will make the outer harder.




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Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/25/2010 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by figgie figgie wrote:

Originally posted by ohhgourami ohhgourami wrote:

so far, nothing beats Nittaky Finezip.  only problem is...its the most expensive glue.  peels off the sponge really easy!  i absolutely love that part about Finezip!

Joola X-glue is decently priced and plays well.  Just dont expect to remove the glue from the sponge though...
 
 
how often do you guys remove the rubber and the other question is, why in the hell would you?
 
Once I glue, that rubber does not come off my blade until it is going to get replaced. That means 6 months-10 months of playing.


Parafin Oil will remove the glue, but you may get unwanted tuning in the process. Best thing is to figure out what rubber you like and leave it on till it is dead. Sometimes this is easier said than done. On cheaper sheets, PO will take it off by softening it up enough to peel it back with your thumb. I have had little problem taking finezip off all but the softest sponges without PO or any other chemical, it usually comes off nicely. But it did tear up a Mark V sheet for some reason.


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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 05/25/2010 at 8:12pm
Originally posted by dauntless dauntless wrote:

The YEO will need a light coat of seal if you plan to EJ a lot of rubbers on it. If you are going to just leave them on, then its up to you. When I pulled off rubbers from my YEO there were thin and very small splinters coming off. If you plan to seal, Andro water based sealer works very, very well. Maybe the same as Donic and Xiom formula. As far as factory YEO seal, if it has one, it did not prevent splinters. As far as seal from megaspin, if you PAID for a coat of seal and they explicitly said they did that, then maybe you don't need to seal. Water based glues are strong and on certain softer outer plys, the ply can be damaged badly if you peel too fast/too much/wrong direction to the grain. Best bet is a light coat of water based seal -- realize this seal WILL change the blade to varying degrees. More coats will make the outer harder.


yeah i did the one from megaspin which i payed for, but it seems very light, i dont EJ rubbers or anything, i just dont want splinters to come of when i change rubbers when they die.

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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g
FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm
USATT: 1725


Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/25/2010 at 10:19pm
if megasping truly did it, i wouldnt re-seal it. just glue it up and be done with it. that is what i think. i would use finezip and cosmetic makeup sponges.

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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 03/11/2019 at 12:28pm
Are there any VOC-free glue sheets out there that work well? Anyone have experience with this brand?



NOTE: In my experience, sealing is a MUST when using glue sheets unless you like peeling off the top ply of your blade when removing. ;-0


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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 03/11/2019 at 12:31pm
Okay, I just did an online search and found some crazy prices for Butterfly sheets on eBay. Didn't find Donic, yet.






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