H2 vs H3 vs TG2 vs TG3 (neo)
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Topic: H2 vs H3 vs TG2 vs TG3 (neo)
Posted By: DreiZ
Subject: H2 vs H3 vs TG2 vs TG3 (neo)
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 12:06pm
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Can someone do a detailed review of all DHS NEO COMMERCIAL rubbers, comparing them to each other.
As well as comparing these rubbers to other popular chinese rubbers such as BW2, 729-08, etc.
Someone who tried all or most of these rubbers (neo) please post any info.
I'm currently using H3 Neo Commercial 40D version, so i dont really need a review of H3 Neo... but a comparison of it to other NEOs.
TIA  ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
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Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 12:17pm
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I've played with all those top sheets but not all with the NEO sponge, they are all "similar" but it totally depends on the player and blade as to which you think does what. Like for me, H3 feels really bad, TG3 and TG2 feel similar and H2 is much better than all of them and the only one I feel confidant with. Other people will say H3 is the only good one and others will swear TG3 is by far the best. If you were to do a poll I bet most people would vote H3 the best then TG3 then H2 then TG2.
I guess in the end they are all good rubbers and it's mostly down to using the one that suits your style of play, I would say all 4 are better than BW2 and I haven't used 729-08 |
Posted By: TTdreamer1982
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 12:30pm
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I have tried them all. Now I use H3 39 degree with 2.2mm sponge.
here is the review: H2--Lighter than H3. A little bit Faster than H3. Works really well if you play close to the table with 3rd ball attack. But when it comes to the middle range of longer rallies, it is not that reliable. Because the light soft sponge somehow cannot provide strong support for long rallies. H3--Personally, I think this is a rubber suits for all kinds of situation. Enough spin, Enough power, Enough speed, Enough control. TG2--more close to the traditional chinese rubber like the old H3. Spinny, but much more slower than H2, H3. however, we all know that for a good player, speed is not the first priority, spin and control is the deal. So this rubber still has its value. TG3--Lighter than TG2. A little bit faster than TG2. But it is still much more slower than H2 and H3. Still got the advantage of chinese rubber, that is spin. But definitely not as powerful as H3. TG3 is sort of between H2 and H3. Its spin is not as good as H3, and its speed is not as fast as H2......so.......but It is still a pretty good choice for forehand because of its control ability. Here's a link of me playing H3 on my forehand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq4H40Ecv2c |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 12:38pm
| I will add that I do play at the table attacking the 3rd ball (or service) and H2 is really the only one of the 4 for that kind of game, but I agree from mid distance it's next to useless mostly because it has such a low throw |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 12:56pm
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how about sponge softness, tackiness comparison, throw, weight... etc among all 4 neos? ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 1:00pm
------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
TTdreamer1982 wrote:Posted By: Ciprian
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 2:51pm
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What blade should be used with these rubbers? With Carbon or All wood?
------------- Xi Enting FH-Aurus Sound BH- Pryde 30 |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 5:02pm
| I believe almost any rubber works perfectly on almost any blade in the ALL+ to OFF- range :) that's the perfect range for 95% of people |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 11:37pm
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how about sponge softness, tackiness comparison, throw, weight... etc among all 4 neos?
bump... ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 06/06/2010 at 1:15pm
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Can only comment between H2 and H3 but H2 is low throw H3 medium throw. Sponges are the same, tackiness about the same but perhaps H2 is more often the most tacky. The only difference between H3 and H2 is the size and spacing of the pimples on the topsheet, one is a low throw power rubber the other is an all round looping rubber.
If you like to loop attack very close to the table hit and chop, the H2 is better, if you have a more typical game and like to loop from bit further back with a more mild stroke then H3 is the one. They both weigh the same (kinda average not heavy or light). H2 is more difficult to use, if you are the kind of person that gets nervous when playing big games then it's not the right rubber, you have to be 100% committed all the time. TG3 and TG2 are made from different rubber and I'm not as experienced with those so I wont have an opinion :) |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 08/01/2010 at 2:30pm
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im ressurecting this thread to bring up a question about the neos?
speed. which one of the 4 is slowest = most control...
im thinking of downgrading my rubbers. bh xtend hs is going to change to mark V; fh im not sure because i like h3 neo on it and its not that fast, but i wanted to know the speed of other neos compared to h3 neo (Comm).
tia ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: glanden.zheng
Date Posted: 08/01/2010 at 11:24pm
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All-wood, thin blades will fit Chinese rubbers the best. Like your Ma Lin Extra Offensive would be good; I suggest you keep that blade. The slowest would be TG2 I think, but be aware that the glue effect would wear out after a while.
------------- Butterfly Viscaria FL FH: Hurricane 3 Prov BH: Tenergy 05 |
Posted By: glanden.zheng
Date Posted: 08/01/2010 at 11:24pm
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... and so they will be even slower after about one month. ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FL FH: Hurricane 3 Prov BH: Tenergy 05 |
Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 08/02/2010 at 4:21am
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For me, TG3 NEO was MUCH faster than H3 NEO. H3 just seemed gluggy and the only thing it would excel at was serves. TG3 NEO serving is great too. More power, spinny. I like TG3 over H3... ------------- I'm 15 Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
Posted By: saif
Date Posted: 08/02/2010 at 1:43pm
I agree that to some extent. But close to the table H3 Neo feels better, specially opening against backspin with H3 Neo is much easier than TG3 Neo. However from mid distance TG3 neo feels more solid and has more direct feeling. ------------- TBS FH & BH: T05fx Tibhar Samsonov Alpha FH: Grip-S Europe BH: Rakza7 soft Victas Koji Matsushita FH: Tenergy 80 BH: Feint long III https://www.facebook.com/groups/5439549367/ |
Posted By: mon22
Date Posted: 08/02/2010 at 2:36pm
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Guys my gf(i love her lol) surprised me with the H2 and H3 Neos.
I have recently bought the regular H2 but now in a tough situation....
Which one to put on my blade?!
they look really nice and i dont want to EJ and try them both out. So which one would be a great transition?
------------- I am a total Newb. Come at me! |
Posted By: walleyeguy7
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 4:24am
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h3 neo and tg3 neo are my favorite chinese rubbers, and they are very similar. tg3 neo is faster and harder, and very slightly tackier. if you have control of the rally, tg3 shines, especially flicking and playing right at the table. if you arent dominating the rally and are forced to react, h3 performs better. tg3 tends to land just an inch off the table and tip the net a fraction more. i would like to try tg3 again but i do not want to spend the $20 because i am almost positive i will come to the same conclusion. both are fantastic rubbers |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 3:17pm
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i guess not gonna try tg3 since its faster than h3 neo, and imo h3 neo is pretty fast...
how about the speed of h2 and tg2 neos compared to h3 neo.. someone?
tia ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 3:23pm
I don't want to get into an "argument" with anyone, but I'm going to go out on a limb and make an "objective" claim that I think almost everyone will agree with: Neo H3 is definitely the slowest of all the Neos. Without question. Absolutely certain.  |
Posted By: mon22
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 3:52pm
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Awesome tip anton!
I guess i will try the H3 Neo since this would be the fastest rubbers i have tried on my fh.
The neos arent too bouncy right? I like dead feeling rubbers ------------- I am a total Newb. Come at me! |
Posted By: High_Arc
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 4:12pm
agree that the h3 neo is slower than the h2 neo and the skyline 2 neo (but i don't know about the skyline 3 neo because i have never used it) |
Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 4:18pm
No, the Neos are not bouncy. I wouldn't call them "dead", personally, but I don't want to split hairs  . They are plenty fast (especially with the "right" technique) but they are in no way bouncy like many tensors. I think you will enjoy Neo H3. |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 4:34pm
| I've used H2 neo and TG3 neo, both similar speed, the only reason H2 maybe faster is because it flys straighter and as such simply covers less distance and so arrives in quicker time :). Both of them are faster than H3 anyway, which like all other medium-higher throw rubbers burns off half it's energy during the flight. Neos are a more bouncy than the normal commercials. But they are still a bit dead feeling, for me I agree, the less life in the sponge = the better the rubber :). H2 is difficult to learn to use but it's really something special once you can take control of it |
Posted By: mon22
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 5:32pm
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hey guys i just glued up my H3 Neo on my sk7. Wow i land most of my shots... a bit slow compared to my former rubber (dhs g888), BUT sooo much spin.
but coming from 2.0mm DHS G888 and going into the 2.2mm H3 Neo i kinda lose the feeling of my shots.
Also with Sriver G3 in my BH my new set up is CRAZY heavy!!! ------------- I am a total Newb. Come at me! |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 10:34pm
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hmmm.. imo for me h3 neo is plenty of speed... and its not lively like t05 or bw2 but its still spinny.
like ppl said it has that somewhat dead feeling but still shines during rallies.
------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: mon22
Date Posted: 08/03/2010 at 11:06pm
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sorry i didnt mean to
I just wanted to share ------------- I am a total Newb. Come at me! |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 08/04/2010 at 7:18am
Slower than G888 2.0   I really like G888 and find it anything but fast, so if H3 Neo is slower it sounds like no go for me. On the other hand if ppl say that TG3 Neo is faster than H3 Neo I'll gladly go for it. I liked a lot the original TG3. BTW how's the tack of the TG3 Neo and is there a difference between the black and the red? Is the TG3 Neo lighter than the original? Anyone?------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: jas_kidd32
Date Posted: 08/04/2010 at 8:16am
| Which of these Neo rubbers are ideal for close table cpen play? |
Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 08/04/2010 at 12:11pm
Probably any of them will work fine, assuming one has the proper technique. However, if you go by who uses them: Skyline 2 and Skyline 3. Ma Lin uses the former and Wang Hao uses the latter. (But in reality, neither probably uses anything similar to the commercial version. Just pick a rubber and get used to it  .) |
Posted By: hut8
Date Posted: 08/04/2010 at 12:25pm
| they are all sh#t. |
Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 08/04/2010 at 12:42pm
Care to expound a bit? |
Posted By: danjacob02
Date Posted: 09/15/2016 at 2:43pm
| Sorry about reviving this thread. I've been using H3 Neo on my FH on my DHS Fang Bo ALC blade. Which is a really fast OFF+ blade. I'm thinking of changing to a TG3Neo. What do you think? Thanks :) |
Posted By: Roger Stillabower
Date Posted: 09/15/2016 at 8:41pm
Why ? what are you trying to gain by changing ? ------------- Shifter |
Posted By: Bobpuls
Date Posted: 09/17/2016 at 2:20am
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Here is a video of tackiness comparison between dhs rubbers. ------------- Custom carbon/aramid off FH DHS H8 BH DHS TG 3-60 Custom carbon off++ FH DHS TG2 BS BH DHS TG3-60 National |
Posted By: garwor
Date Posted: 09/17/2016 at 12:50pm
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I tried H3 neo, on few blades (carbon and wood) and even after few sessions couldn't return incoming topspin ball (even block) on the other side of net, everything into net. Backspins I could attack succesfully. Tried shortly H2 neo on somebody's other blade and was quite ok (althouth rubber was old). Tried TG2 neo on PG7 blade and it was very good for me, every ball you can attack with over the ball brush. Unfortunately I damaged rubber after first session and later sold pg7. Now I have one TG2 neo, hope will find suitable blade. ------------- http://stonitenis.rs/equipmentreviews" rel="nofollow - Equipment database Yinhe MC-2 FL fh: Xiom Vega pro bh: Xiom Vega pro Boycott Marcos Freitas for hidden services! |
Posted By: danjacob02
Date Posted: 09/19/2016 at 4:43pm
I just want to see how it'll fit on my blade. I never tried a TG3n on an ALC blade so I'm curious on how it'll play.
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Posted By: panany
Date Posted: 09/24/2016 at 9:54pm
| For me the best is h3 :) |
Posted By: simon_xuan
Date Posted: 09/25/2016 at 3:30pm
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My choice is TG3 Neo tuned with Falco long. It works nicely on TBALC and HH3. TG is better with continous looping with more stroke tolerance than H3 in my opinion. H3 is more destructive with full stroke and right weight transfer. ------------- RPB Rocks! BTY Innerforce ZLC Cpen | DHS H3N Blue Sponge | Victas V>15 Extra Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36695 |
Posted By: panany
Date Posted: 09/25/2016 at 6:25pm
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Posted By: ttwater
Date Posted: 09/26/2016 at 11:19pm
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Posted By: panany
Date Posted: 09/27/2016 at 4:22am
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Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 09/27/2016 at 9:42am
| what is a LIDU |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 09/27/2016 at 10:28am
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Lidu is a manufacturer. Sime ex haifu employee is behind the brand. They have a rubber called lidu Gold. -------------  "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 09/27/2016 at 10:35am
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Date Posted: 09/27/2016 at 3:33pm
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