the best stiff blade?
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Topic: the best stiff blade?
Posted By: scdit46
Subject: the best stiff blade?
Date Posted: 10/12/2011 at 4:09am
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what is the best stiff blade? Stiga Ebenholz? Stiga Rosewood? Donic Persson Power Carbon? Donic Waldner Senso Ultra Carbon? thanks! |
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Posted By: stefashka
Date Posted: 10/12/2011 at 5:26am
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To me, it would be a 10mm thick one-ply hinoki. Best power and control ratio. I recently played with a custom made 10mm WRC Jpen by American Hinoki and was simply shocked - I never thought a blade can literally play for you by itself... Anyway, you should specify the points you're interested in, they can be very different for each player - speed, control, feel, throw angle, etc. ------------- Darker 7P-2A CP - Dignics 09c, TSP Curl P3α |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/12/2011 at 10:41am
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"There is no best blade, only blade that fits you best"-Palatinus Tell us about your level/style and post some video and people might be able to make targeted recommendations. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: cotdt
Date Posted: 10/12/2011 at 12:42pm
| I would agree with the 10mm 1-ply hinoki statement. I've tried to bend various blades and those things are stiff! |
Posted By: scdit46
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 4:22pm
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I don´t like Hinoki. Other stiff blades? |
Posted By: artakwol
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 4:33pm
| Primorac Carbon |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 4:34pm
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BTY Timo Boll TB5000, Donic Person Power Carbon or Yasaka Dynamix 17.
------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: scdit46
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 5:27pm
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The Butterfly T5000 is very expensive!!! |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 5:32pm
So, go for Donic Person Power Carbon! 
------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: scdit46
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 5:44pm
| the T5000 and Donic Person Carbon are similar? |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 5:54pm
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Donic is 7 wood + 2 thin carbon layers while BTY has 5 wood + 2 thick and hard Tamca layers. Both are really fast and stiff but I prefer Donic feel. Limba softer outer layers feels better compared to Koto used on BTY T5000, IMO. ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 7:57pm
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Stiff + Hard or Stiff + Soft blade? |
Posted By: sa01
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 8:05pm
| timo boll spirit |
Posted By: cotdt
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 8:10pm
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Yeah I'm surprised no one mentioned the TBS until now, as it is pretty stiff with just a slight amount of flex for improved looping. That said, the T5000 is even stiffer and harder, and it's really thin too. ------------- Nittaku Resound FH: Joola Timeless BH: Joola Timeless |
Posted By: mikepong
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 9:24pm
| i havent used any of the blade that you mentioned but for me, primorac carbon and gergely, stiff and fast, relatively decent control for a pure carbon blade, and plays the same, i have used this 2 blades for a very long time |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 9:36pm
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For stiff and soft, I think Viscaria, TBS, TB ALC are great blades. I don't know much about stiff and hard blades. |
Posted By: ejmeser
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 9:38pm
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Amultart is the best stiff blade I have ever played with. TBt5000 is pretty good too. Can't stand Sardius or Gergely. ------------- *Madridista* http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45266&title=feedback-ejmeser" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: cotdt
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 9:40pm
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Amultart is stiff for sure but it has hinoki which the OP doesn't like
------------- Nittaku Resound FH: Joola Timeless BH: Joola Timeless |
Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 9:58pm
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Maze is my choice for Stiff + Soft blade. Never tried Stiff + Hard blade before though. |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 10:05pm
how fast is that blade) is it hard? harder than primorac carbon? |
AMonteiro wrote:Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 10/16/2011 at 11:47pm
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PC is faster and harder than Donic PPC. ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: artakwol
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 1:17am
Agree. |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 4:56am
would be good for short pips? |
Posted By: scdit46
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 5:33am
| yes for short pips! |
Posted By: Klaus123
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 8:06am
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best stiff in what aspect?
off, all, def? for which game style, topspin? block? chop? for which rubber? for newbie? advanced player?
I would say the named blades are hard. Stiff and soft would be MM (as someone mentioned already), VL, maybe ZLC, which is not as soft anymore. But TBS, ALC and Visc are hard. |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 9:25am
Viscaria IMHO is just as soft as MM, but faster. Btfly agrees with me in their charts and tables. The blades I mentioned are much softer than Primorac or Schlager carbon, or Gergeley and the like, or a Timo Boll T5000. |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 3:36pm
do you know what are using the short pips players of spain (blade/pips |
Posted By: artakwol
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 4:02pm
| I would add BTY Schlager Carbon. |
Posted By: HowToPlayChineseLoop
Date Posted: 09/26/2012 at 9:59am
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The best stiff and thin blade carbon is really hard to find. Because thin blade will vibrate much. Stiff blade is not good for hard rubber. I wonder why you want a stiff carbon blade?
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/26/2012 at 10:35am
What do you want a stiff blade for? Do you want it to loop but you hate vibrations, or do you want it to hit but you want some looping ability? And what kind of speed/weight do you expect?
If you want a blade for looping but can tolerate vibrations but not too much, it leads to one kind of answer (TBS, Stellan Bengsston Alpha etc.) or blades which are thin but use carbon/arylate to dampen vibrations a little.
You can go in a different direction if you want a stiff blade with hitting power but no vibrations whatsoever. You could use the Schlager Carbon, the Killerspin Titanium Carbon etc.
And then there are the stiff wooden blades (1 ply hinoki, DHS PG7, thick balsa blades). These are for people who prefer the feel of wood, but want hitting power. The PG7 is also for looping, but the stiffness is obvious to anyone who uses it.
So the real question is what do you want the blade for? For example, I like large sweetspots but prefer the feel of wood. I want a looping blade at ALL+/OFF- control because I will generate the power myself and play closer to the table on most occasions. Hence the blades I use. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 09/26/2012 at 10:36am
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BTY Primorac Carbon is the best Stiff blade imho! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27730&title=feedback-tsanyc - My Feedback 
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Posted By: mikepong
Date Posted: 09/26/2012 at 11:06am
+1 ------------- Viscaria FH: Tenergy 05 black BH: Tenergy 05 red |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 09/26/2012 at 11:56am
+1 Unfortunately is discontinued, so I bought another one. ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: Blockade
Date Posted: 09/26/2012 at 12:28pm
| For a budget blade, the 729 Dynasty Hinoki Carbon gets my vote but it might be too hard for most. It's like a frying pan. The metal "ping" sound is like no other. |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 09/26/2012 at 1:42pm
| for allwood it's Juic Nebula, for carbon I would pick the Gergely! |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/26/2012 at 2:33pm
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Of course the best stiff blade is my BBC Ultima but it has thick hinoki outers... so... just ask Charlie to build you something similar but with Limba or Ramin thinner outers. Like this 1.25mm Ramin + carbon + 4 mm WRC + carbon + 1.25 mm Ramin that would be 7 mm, plenty stiff and around OFF+ in class. Unless you want it stiff and slower... then do smth like this 0.75 mm Ramin + 0.75 Limba + 3.5 mm WRC + 0.75 Limba+ 0.75 Ramin with NO carbon. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Mickael
Date Posted: 09/26/2012 at 4:23pm
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Timo boll zlc no doubt, you can't see any ball returning with better short game than primorac carbon but primorac still a legend ------------- Butterfly Fransizka ZLC FL Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |