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Topic: New - Xiom Hayabusa Blades
Posted By: vvk1
Subject: New - Xiom Hayabusa Blades
Date Posted: 02/13/2012 at 4:14pm
Check out pics of a new Xiom blade range called Omni Hayabusa!

Apparently, there is a new cool composite material called "Zephylium" :-)

Hayabusa Z:

Hayabuza Zi:

Hayabusa Z+:

Hayabusa ZX:

Hayabusa ZXi:



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Posted By: shay2be
Date Posted: 02/13/2012 at 4:38pm
idk how the blade plays but it looks really good. 
maybe this new carbon has zylon in it or something like that.
apparently is has a very sharp feel but the carbon is actually very soft and flexible.
this looks very....interesting


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Posted By: pablogilberto
Date Posted: 02/13/2012 at 7:03pm
wicked!!


Posted By: tuco
Date Posted: 02/13/2012 at 7:06pm
WOW... pretty...
 
how much do they cost?
 
so... what are the differences between "modern", "classic" and "extreme" topspin?


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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/13/2012 at 7:28pm
what! no new 7 ply all wood blade from xiom?

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Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 2:14am
Sleek design & colours.  The marketing looks impressive too Clap

Hayabussa:  Z, Zi, Z+, ZX, ZXi

Sounds like a high performance sports car


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Posted By: AllezCho
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 2:32am
HOT DAYUM!

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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 5:21am
Originally posted by tuco tuco wrote:

WOW... pretty...
 
how much do they cost?
 
so... what are the differences between "modern", "classic" and "extreme" topspin?

There used to be a Xiom equipment reseller in UK (prott.co.uk), then they went bust, but left a site full of Xiom marketing material around ( http://xiomtabletennis.co.uk/?p=76 - http://xiomtabletennis.co.uk/?p=76 ). From there:
  • Modern Topspin : This is the most common playing style in modern table tennis. In this style, topspin is always the key technique of the game. Player hit the ball close to table of from mid distance. This playing style is divided again into some categories. Some players are more offensive, and the other players pursuit the balance between offense and defense. We call the playing style “modern allround” if the main technique of the player is topspin but he/she tries to keep balance between offense and defense.
  • Extreme Topspin : This playing style is close to modern topspin. But, the difference is its aggressiveness. The players of this playing style are very aggressive and are always aiming at the rising of ball from bounce. The key technique is of course topspin. And generally, the players of this playing style prefer counter topspin to block.
  • Classic Topspin : Classic topspin means power-play with topspin from mid distance. Decades ago this playing style had been one of common style of table tennis. And, still there are many players of this playing style. This playing style is very close to classic allround style. But, the difference is that “classic topspin” is more offensive. Power is indispensable to this playing style.
  • Classic Fast Attack : This playing style is very aggressive offensive style whose key technique isn’t topspin. Players of this playing style prefer direct hit to topspin. Some players begin their attack from topspin, but from the next shot they use direct hit, and finishes the rally with kill (smash). Passive block is also very important in this playing style. Generally, penholder players use pimples out rubbers on their forehand side. And, shakehand players use the combination of inverted rubbers on forehand side and pimples out rubbers on backhand side. Some shakehand players use pimples out rubbers on both of forehand & backhand sides. Also, some players are using long pimple rubbers or antispin rubbers on their backhand side. In this case, the playing style may be far from aggressiveness. But, basically it can be classified as one variation of “classic fast attack” style.
  • Classic Allround : Also in this playing style, topspin plays very important role. But, players of this playing style tries to use every technique of table tennis. And, they hit ball generally from mid distance, and they prefer balance between offense and defense to continuous offensive play. The difference from classic topspin is that “classic allround” is less offensive.
  • Cut Defense : Of course the key technique of this playing style is cut (chop) defense. Players are using special blade with big head and reduced speed. Also there are many sub-categories in this playing style. Some players like pure defensive play. They don’t try to attack at all. But, the other players frequently attack from forehand side with preparatory topspin or counter topspin. Even they try to smash. Gerenally, players use long pimple rubbers on their backhand side for variation and irregularity, and use inverted rubber on their forehand side for strong spin following their will. Please note that this classification can’t represent all playing style of table tennis. But, at least it will work as the guideline of selection when players try to find the proper equipments for them.


Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 5:24am
Is it just me, or the handle shape seems somewhat different from traditional Xiom blades?


Posted By: TSuBaSa
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 5:47am
Looks like chinese made andro-joola blade.



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Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 6:30am
Am I the only who:
 
1) Thinks these blades look ridiculous
 
and
 
2) Just wishes Xiom would stop discontinuing blades and stick with some good ones which don't require gimmicky graphics to sell?
 
... I might be alone


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Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 6:37am
Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

Is it just me, or the handle shape seems somewhat different from traditional Xiom blades?
 
I think you're right.... looks more rounded


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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 6:54am
Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

Am I the only who:
 
1) Thinks these blades look ridiculous
 
and
 
2) Just wishes Xiom would stop discontinuing blades and stick with some good ones which don't require gimmicky graphics to sell?
 
... I might be alone

+ 1!




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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 8:28am
Yeah, too much pink in handle color ... :-) 


Posted By: manofan
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 10:53am
Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Sleek design & colours.  The marketing looks impressive too Clap

Hayabussa:  Z, Zi, Z+, ZX, ZXi

Sounds like a high performance sports car

lol
Hayabusa is the fastest motorcycle in the world, productin in large scale.
its made by SUZUKI btw...


Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 2:16pm
the more I think about these new blades, the less attached I'm becoming to my V-1...
 
it may go up for sale once I get my Nexy Calix


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Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max


Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Sleek design & colours.  The marketing looks impressive too Clap

Hayabussa:  Z, Zi, Z+, ZX, ZXi

Sounds like a high performance sports car

Snakefish

How about a high performance Motorcycle!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Hayabusa - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Hayabusa


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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:



the more I think about these new blades, the less attached I'm becoming to my V-1...
 
it may go up for sale once I get my Nexy Calix


I know what you mean. I used to love all this stuff, but now I have Calix, I can only ej rubbers.


Posted By: tuco
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by manofan manofan wrote:

Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Sleek design & colours.  The marketing looks impressive too Clap

Hayabussa:  Z, Zi, Z+, ZX, ZXi

Sounds like a high performance sports car

lol
Hayabusa is the fastest motorcycle in the world, productin in large scale.
its made by SUZUKI btw...
In Japanese, Hayabusa is a fast flying bird - probably a falcon.

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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

the more I think about these new blades, the less attached I'm becoming to my V-1...
 
it may go up for sale once I get my Nexy Calix

Hmm, the opposite for me. The more I play with my V1, the more I like it. What's so special about Nexy Calix?


Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 11:03pm
Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

the more I think about these new blades, the less attached I'm becoming to my V-1...
 
it may go up for sale once I get my Nexy Calix

Hmm, the opposite for me. The more I play with my V1, the more I like it. What's so special about Nexy Calix?
check out the reviews... it's thinner, and the carbon is the 3rd veneer, not the 2nd, so it should be more flexible than V1 but still have the large sweet spot... that's the biggest factor for me. luckily, the one I have coming is 85 grams, just like my V1.
I do enjoy my V1 and at the moment it's my only blade until my OSP Expert and Calix arrive... but after seeing these new Xiom blades... ugh, I use to associate the name Xiom with great quality and prices less than Butterfly... now they're losing esteem with me


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Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 02/14/2012 at 11:06pm
hopefully next year's models will have a strobing LED in the handle Ermm


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Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/15/2012 at 3:24am
sounds like that character in ninja gaiden, ruy hayabusa

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Posted By: melarimsa
Date Posted: 02/15/2012 at 9:32am
I do NOT like the look at all Unhappy

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Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 02/15/2012 at 4:18pm
I like the handle design on the Zi.

I don't understand the descriptions at all. Xiom doesn't need anymore blades, and most of their composite blades are too stiff, but I can't say I'm not interested in how all of these 5.7-5.8mm thick Limba/composite blades feel. Good thing I don't EJ anymore. Shocked

Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:



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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 02/15/2012 at 6:33pm
Zi also seems like the most "allround" blade of the series ...


Posted By: shay2be
Date Posted: 03/01/2012 at 9:37pm
i just talked to ben nisbet from tabletennisstore.us and he said that these blades are supposed to be similar to the timo boll zlf and zlc series. tabletennisstore.us will have them in stock in may. 

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Tenergy 80 - FX
Rating: 2065


Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 03/01/2012 at 11:06pm
No one is mentioning anything about the weight. My wrist is afraid of heavy set ups and those can't be light with 158x152cm dressed  with a Tenergy and sort a chinese. Apart from it I find them really attractive

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Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 07/26/2012 at 2:04am
Originally posted by shay2be shay2be wrote:

i just talked to ben nisbet from tabletennisstore.us and he said that these blades are supposed to be similar to the timo boll zlf and zlc series. tabletennisstore.us will have them in stock in may. 

.... so here we are in late July... no Xiom Hayabusa... another Vega China story

meanwhile, we have time to submit suggestions to Xiom about how they should launch this blade

i suggest they give away a t-shirt like this one with the purchase of each blade:


and it will be very important that you wear it to each match.

... hey, if your blade is going to scream it, your shirt should also!


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Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 07/26/2012 at 9:55am
I bought today by a tt shop in munich the z+ fl 81g

The st version was 88g

From my side the construction is the same of boll zlf

In the shop there was also the zi, like z+ but with zylon as second ply

And the zxi, for me the same construction of boll zlc



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Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 07/26/2012 at 10:09am
perhaps my prodding provoked Xiom to release the blades? (joke)

I also see that www.tabletennis11.com has them listed now

carmelomaf, did they have the shirt in your size? 


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Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 10/26/2012 at 1:35am
Originally posted by melarimsa melarimsa wrote:

I do NOT like the look at all Unhappy

Thumbs Down
On the contrary they look cool...must be superb blades perhaps there will be sy who share his experience.

You know there's no account for taste.



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Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 11/15/2012 at 9:06pm
Post to tag this thread because I'd like to hear input.

Also, I will do a review of the Z+ that I purchased from Mr. Fatt... perhaps here, or elsewhere if he prefers.

I tried it briefly and was very impressed, but my impressions were slightly confounded because I was not using my main rubbers. 

I have purchased (and am awaiting) my primary rubbers to put on this blade before I give a "proper" review. 

I will say right off the bat, though: I was impressed with the sharp feel and the quickness of the blade despite how thin it is (especially compared to my NR-70s). 

More to come...




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Posted By: Nagatito
Date Posted: 11/15/2012 at 11:25pm
Why you just dont get another mj instead of wasting your money on a bunch of blades

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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 11/16/2012 at 1:07am
V interesting. 

I wish they made this Hayabusa line 157x150. 158x152 might make the setup a bit heavy and head-heavy for my taste especially with the heavier new-gen rubbers.




Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 11/16/2012 at 1:13am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:


I am happy I found this document:
http://www.xiomtt.com/pdf/XIOM_2012_all.pdf - http://www.xiomtt.com/pdf/XIOM_2012_all.pdf

That's nice and saves a lot of loading time: the XIOM web site is just too bloated.


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Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 11/16/2012 at 2:22am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

ZXi composition from  http://www.ttbdb.com/ - http://www.ttbdb.com

XiomHayabusa ZXi7
plies
83.5g
(mine)
5.7mmOff+KotoZephylium CarbonAyousKiri
CORE
AyousZephylium CarbonKoto

Kiri core like MJ
Koto outer like TB ZLC
Zephylium Carbon right behind outer like mj (innerforce go home!)

At 5.7mm and under 84 gr I think I am getting close to the graal. 

I am happy I found this document:
http://www.xiomtt.com/pdf/XIOM_2012_all.pdf - http://www.xiomtt.com/pdf/XIOM_2012_all.pdf

That seems like a great composition... though I'm not entirely sure what "Zephylium" is. They called the zylon "zylon" in the Zetro Quad so I would guess that the Zephylium is a different substance... but who knows.

I'm very interested to hear how it plays. 



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Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 11/20/2012 at 9:54pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

also they are made by the moths.

Eh?


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Posted By: swampthing
Date Posted: 11/20/2012 at 11:28pm
Originally posted by Anton Chigurh Anton Chigurh wrote:

 
That seems like a great composition... though I'm not entirely sure what "Zephylium" is. They called the zylon "zylon" in the Zetro Quad so I would guess that the Zephylium is a different substance... but who knows.



Zephylium appears to be a proprietary name for the polymer they are using.  Zylon is a fabric that was a precursor to Kevlar in body armor.  

This series is interesting, but I sure like the hinoki on the Zetro.  Smile


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Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 11/21/2012 at 1:54am
I finally got a chance to hit with my Hayabusa Z+ I purchased from fatt.

It is a FL handle and weighs (if I remember correctly) 84.6g. With my rubbers on it (TopENERGY Soft, max, and Renanos Hold, 1.9mm) it weighs a light 176g. 

Compared to my regular setup (see sig), it was ever so slightly head heavy. And I mean slightly. Not nearly as pronounced as my Carbo 7.6 but more so than my NR-70. TopENERGY Soft is a pretty heavy rubber (in the BWII black sponge range) so I'm quite confident that with "normal" weighted Tensors this blade would be even better balanced. And again, it's not bad to begin with, just noticeable. 

Despite the minor head heaviness, it's overall weight is less than my main setup by almost 10g. So I felt much more maneuverable with this setup, like I was playing with a wakizashi rather than with a katana Wink. The blade also has a nice feel upon contact. It feels a lot like an all-wood blade with sharp feedback from the koto. The vibration is crisp but it is very short-lived. 

It is quick for how thin it is, although it is not as fast as my NR-70. Normally I prefer ST handles. Although I was excited by the fact that this particular FL handle felt nice in my hand, upon playing with it I realized I wasn't nearly as comfortable as I'd hoped to be. This FL is about the size of a Stiga Master FL. Not smaller, but not much bigger if at all. Without it filling my hand like my regular ST, I felt like the blade was unstable in my hand. This is no fault of the blade but simply my own preference... but it may have tainted my review in general. Hopefully not. 

Keeping serves and drop shots low were no problem. This is not a bouncy blade at all. Looping and hitting had very good speed. However, I think this blade matches better with Japanese (and presumably Euro) rubbers, as I liked my backhand with this blade much more than my forehand. While the speed was good, the spin was a bit diminished compared to my NR-70. It wasn't a ton worse but it was noticeable enough that all three of my training partners made comments about it. I should add though that I was using a new sheet of hard, tacky rubber which often requires some time to break in, so the spin may be there at a future date. 

I do like this blade, but it's not love at first sight. It performs very, very well. I will continue to toy with it in my spare time, but for me and my game it does not perform as well as my NR-70. I am grateful to fatt for putting it in my hands and I plan to add more observations to this thread in the future. It may eventually make it to the For Sale section... but not quite yet. Smile




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Posted By: shirazir
Date Posted: 11/23/2012 at 6:13pm
Honestly, I don't care how this blade plays, I just want one to stare at all day. I know the graphics aren't for everyone but look at that handle, and the detail on the handle tag!

Xiom is really stepping up their game. A good medium stiffness, medium softness looping blade in their lineup (like the TBS) could propel them beyond the ranks of Stiga or Donic rather quickly.


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Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 11/23/2012 at 6:29pm
Good gods, fatt... That is a sexy blade.



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Posted By: Dr.Cho
Date Posted: 11/23/2012 at 7:08pm
Thats one nice lookin blade....Daddy Likey


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 11/23/2012 at 7:17pm
@fatt...
wow...Shocked & cool & cute Cool HahyahBoosa...
Nice graphic, quite thin & kinda a bit over-saturated on its face & everything...Lotta nice things you said about it, ermm...just as you did to other past beauties as well...
Wonder how long you would keep & play w/ this "The One"....
I'll start my waiting-by-the-fence, right now.....here on this side of the border.
EJ bugs are still contagious, eh?Big smile


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Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 11/23/2012 at 7:41pm
The ad is cool.

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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/23/2012 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

@fatt...
wow...Shocked & cool & cute Cool HahyahBoosa...
Nice graphic, quite thin & kinda a bit over-saturated on its face & everything...Lotta nice things you said about it, ermm...just as you did to other past beauties as well...
Wonder how long you would keep & play w/ this "The One"....
I'll start my waiting-by-the-fence, right now.....here on this side of the border.
EJ bugs are still contagious, eh?Big smile
 
He's waiting for my Photino. LOL


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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 11/23/2012 at 11:39pm
hahyah....
just realized that this Xiom offers more varieties or models than my favorite Toyota Camry's or Honda Accords.
I'd stick to my Photino & play/live happily ever after......


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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 11/23/2012 at 11:51pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

you should have added: "...'till I come around a photino light AN".
LOL good 1 & you got me there.....
Really, too many models of that HoorayBoosah & What'veYou...Too overwhelming, over-bloating with fine graphics, nos., data, details & colors...
We ain't got no time for those things, just go out & play, man...


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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/24/2012 at 12:32am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

no more blades; maybe another used hayabusa zxi. but 1st I need to spend time with this one. too many times I thought I had found the one but buying right away the matching pair always ended up as money savings; for the next buyer indeed.

Taking everything you said into account,  sounds like you need an Iolite Neo. Crisp speed and light weight with a great FL handle.  The avg wt for my set of 5 is 84 gms. Big smile


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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 11/24/2012 at 12:43am
Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

......need an Iolite Neo. Crisp speed and light weight with a great FL handle.  The avg wt for my set of 5 is 84 gms. Big smile
spare 1 for ermmmm....may be...cheap?LOL


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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/24/2012 at 12:48am
Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

......need an Iolite Neo. Crisp speed and light weight with a great FL handle.  The avg wt for my set of 5 is 84 gms. Big smile
spare 1 for ermmmm....may be...cheap?LOL

Go check with Santa. Wink


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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 11/24/2012 at 1:04am
Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Go check with Santa. Wink
ok..you go check (w/her?) & I wait here....LOL


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Posted By: swampthing
Date Posted: 11/24/2012 at 1:18am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I loved the Zetro Quad very much but they are rare under 90 grams. My h-zxi is under 84 grams so it seems those will never get over 88 grams (just an intuition) and that getting one around 85 grams will be easy. in addition to the composition and beauty of the blade that's the main reason I decided to give it a go.

Does the slight increase in head size vs the Zetro make their overall weights roughly the same?

On the scale post, I bet your scale is just just rounding up.  Great looking blade, looking forward to learning more about it.


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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 11/24/2012 at 11:53am
I love this Hayabusa....

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Suzuki+GSX+1300R+Hayabusa&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=tAK&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=pPmwUL7hIYmQiQLV_oGIAw&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=635 - https://www.google.ca/search?q=Suzuki+GSX+1300R+Hayabusa&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=tAK&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=pPmwUL7hIYmQiQLV_oGIAw&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=635


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Posted By: watchski
Date Posted: 12/23/2012 at 11:59pm
i just got this bad boy... Xiom Hayabusa Z+   IT IS AWESOME....  very fast and solid feeling... 

I have tried different rubbers on it... and man oh man... with the Acuda S2... its like a rocket ship..

I also tried the Nittaku Hammond Pro B and wow..the control is sooo nice...   Love the new blade... very impressed...   i sure my wife doesn't notice this new blade....   "another one"   


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Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 12/24/2012 at 12:20am
The EJ era is over for good.  ZXi with Bluefires are the ultimate choice for me .
Power , elegance, speed and precision of a hunting falcon .  Big smile




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Posted By: jatienza930
Date Posted: 12/24/2012 at 12:39am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

The Zxi is still softer than the TBS and MJ; speed in the high OFF but not crazy fast at all. That Zephylium is really special; it dampens and distributes all vibrations evenly everywhere so the feel is so smoother; not so much softer but much more even and clearer. 
This blade is such a winner; here with bf m2 and mark v m2, both in 2.0.
The 91 grams worth of rubbers make the setup slightly head heavy (83.5gr blade). Since the handle is thin (it reminds me the Cofferlait handle) I beefed it up with Wilson leatherette tennis grip and the balance is close to perfect now with 4 more grams at the handle level.




+1 so far I like what I see Big smile


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Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 12/24/2012 at 1:06am


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Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 12/24/2012 at 1:07am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

are your M2 and M3 are both MAX (the 198gr seems super high)? what is the weight of your blade?

Well, I must admit I forgot to weigh it before putting on the grip. So it weighs102 gramms with the grip.
Not an easy combo but much shorter arm movements are enough to carry out your shots.
Anyway, I use 2 mm rubbers.
Oh , yes and two layers of XIOM sealant are applied.


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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 12/24/2012 at 8:22am
What about the announced "sharp and clear vibrations"?


Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 12/24/2012 at 2:00pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

it means that among the 2 Hayabusa Zxi blades that I know of, one is almost 84gr (mine) one 97gr or 98gr (I assume your grip is no more than 5 grams)
 
THAT'S a BIG DIFFERENCE!!!




Oh , come on my dear friend . Do not make a big fuss about a few gramms .
As you can see they are ordinary kitchen scales and not those used at pharmacies after all LOL
Furthermore subtle alternations may occour during production process.

It is the superb feel (and distinctive sound) produced that makes me wanna hit, smash and enjoy the game.   



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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 12/26/2012 at 10:13pm
a french guy wrote that on the 1st French tt site:

ZEPHYLIUM ® is a polymer exclusively developed for XIOM blades and has a tensile strength 1.6 higher than Aramid. Vibration gives a natural feel and ball speed is improved. Ball control is amazing. Carbon fibers with ZEPHYLIUM creates extra energy and improved ball feeling. ZEPHYLIUM is a trademark of XIOM.
XCARBONE is the name of Carbon materials developed exclusively for XIOM. Carbon is the basis for increasing the speed and resistance. Carbon fibers can develop different properties, methods of training. XCARBONE is a superior fiber that fits well with natural wood. 
Driven into the wood or polymer materials, XCARBONE creates a better and softer feel than other Carbon fibers.



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Posted By: jatienza930
Date Posted: 12/27/2012 at 6:30pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

a french guy wrote that on the 1st French tt site:

ZEPHYLIUM ® is a polymer exclusively developed for XIOM blades and has a tensile strength 1.6 higher than Aramid. Vibration gives a natural feel and ball speed is improved. Ball control is amazing. Carbon fibers with ZEPHYLIUM creates extra energy and improved ball feeling. ZEPHYLIUM is a trademark of XIOM.
XCARBONE is the name of Carbon materials developed exclusively for XIOM. Carbon is the basis for increasing the speed and resistance. Carbon fibers can develop different properties, methods of training. XCARBONE is a superior fiber that fits well with natural wood. 
Driven into the wood or polymer materials, XCARBONE creates a better and softer feel than other Carbon fibers.



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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 01/02/2013 at 4:34pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

only one left in FL: they had 5 and they were all between 81 and 85 grams.
http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tt-blade-xiom-hayabusa-zxi - http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tt-blade-xiom-hayabusa-zxi
$137 including shipping is a nice bargain.

one left in ST as well.
damn....I've my eyes on 2 Xioms (please guess..Embarrassed Fatt) but my lady & sunny want me to buy some others non-tt stuffs for them.
I'll wait for some used here @ mytt then..


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/10/2013 at 7:51pm
only one left in FL and one left in ST at 104 EUROS 
http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tt-blade-xiom-hayabusa-zxi - http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tt-blade-xiom-hayabusa-zxi


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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 8:33am
From the picture looks like the ZXi hhas Koto top plies, and the ZX has Limba.  Is this correct?  Which one of the 2 is camparable to IF ZLC?


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 11:15am
I read before that yes, the ZXi has koto outer plies; in fact it has the same composition than the TBS if you replace BTY Arylate Carbon by the newer material that Xiom introduced: Zephylium.

In both cases the Zephylium is right behind the outer ply while the IF blades have the composite carbon stuck to the core.

The TB ZLC has Koto outer plies so my answer would be that the ZXi is closer to the ZLC.



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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 11:34am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I read before that yes, the ZXi has koto outer plies; in fact it has the same composition than the TBS if you replace BTY Arylate Carbon by the newer material that Xiom introduced: Zephylium.

In both cases the Zephylium is right behind the outer ply while the IF blades have the composite carbon stuck to the core.

The TB ZLC has Koto outer plies so my answer would be that the ZXi is closer to the ZLC.

I thought the ZXi has the Zephylium close to the CORE, while the ZX has it right behind the top ply.  What interesting is the ZX seem to have the Limba top ply, so in effect The ZXi has the same structure as the IF, but with KOTO top, and the ZX has the same structure as the TB, but with the Limba top.


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 11:39am
It's just a blessing (for me) that Xiom doesn't (CAN'T?) make good decent Anatomic handle version for some of these "High ends".
I hereby lay my EJ "dream" for this Xiom to rest.....


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I read before that yes, the ZXi has koto outer plies; in fact it has the same composition than the TBS if you replace BTY Arylate Carbon by the newer material that Xiom introduced: Zephylium.

In both cases the Zephylium is right behind the outer ply while the IF blades have the composite carbon stuck to the core.

The TB ZLC has Koto outer plies so my answer would be that the ZXi is closer to the ZLC.

I thought the ZXi has the Zephylium close to the CORE, while the ZX has it right behind the top ply.  What interesting is the ZX seem to have the Limba top ply, so in effect The ZXi has the same structure as the IF, but with KOTO top, and the ZX has the same structure as the TB, but with the Limba top.

I am confident you are mistaken about the Zxi:

look at those pictures of my 1st Zxi:

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47732&PID=674305&title=new-xiom-hayabusa-blades#674305 - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47732&PID=674305&title=new-xiom-hayabusa-blades#674305

and the close up picture right after that post (plies).



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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 2:49pm
 
 
 
xi-OMMMMM...
 



Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I read before that yes, the ZXi has koto outer plies; in fact it has the same composition than the TBS if you replace BTY Arylate Carbon by the newer material that Xiom introduced: Zephylium.

In both cases the Zephylium is right behind the outer ply while the IF blades have the composite carbon stuck to the core.

The TB ZLC has Koto outer plies so my answer would be that the ZXi is closer to the ZLC.

I thought the ZXi has the Zephylium close to the CORE, while the ZX has it right behind the top ply.  What interesting is the ZX seem to have the Limba top ply, so in effect The ZXi has the same structure as the IF, but with KOTO top, and the ZX has the same structure as the TB, but with the Limba top.

I am confident you are mistaken about the Zxi:

look at those pictures of my 1st Zxi:

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47732&PID=674305&title=new-xiom-hayabusa-blades#674305 - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47732&PID=674305&title=new-xiom-hayabusa-blades#674305

and the close up picture right after that post (plies).

You are right about the ZXi, and the picture confirms it.  However, in the description it says 'Zephylium Carbon close to the core ply makes ZXi feel more solid and genuine' which leads me to believe the Zephylium is closer to the CORE. 
 
In the ZX it says 'Zephylium Carbon character in the second layer makes ZX feel sensibly sharp but unbelievably softer than other composite blades', what does it mean?  I wish some one who has the ZX can confirm the structure.  If ZX is indeed has the Zephylium close the CORE, then it looks like they have the descriptions mixed up, and the ZX is a lot like the IF ZLC, which I maybe interested in.


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

... 
In the ZX it says 'Zephylium Carbon character in the second layer makes ZX feel sensibly sharp but unbelievably softer than other composite blades', what does it mean?  I wish some one who has the ZX can confirm the structure.  If ZX is indeed has the Zephylium close the CORE, then it looks like they have the descriptions mixed up, and the ZX is a lot like the IF ZLC, which I maybe interested in.
you make such a strong point!!!  maybe they did invert the descriptions. We need to put our hands on a zx now.


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 5:40pm
Hello mhnh007

I went to xiomtt.com and  here is what I see; obviously different than the picture in the OP ('third layer' instead of 'second layer'); they made corrections. Thank you for underlining the problem. 
So I guess your answer is that the ZX is closer to the IF ZLC and the ZXi closer to the TB ZLC.

The description of the ZXi still mentions zephylium "towards the center" though; I am receiving a 2nd ZXi very soon so we'll see if I get the same composition structure.





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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 10:59pm
the Zi has an ayous core sandwiched by Zephylium (not Zcarbon); a strong candidate for Innerforce lovers who do not want the hardness of carbon.

koto - limba - Zephylium - AYOUS - Zephylium - limba - koto

reminder: Z = Zephylium (competitor of Zylon); ZX = Zephylium Carbon (ZLC competitor); 

I have not figured out what the i stands for in Zi and ZXi. any idea?



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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/11/2013 at 11:57pm

by the way my favorite handle in terms of fashion (...) is the ZX.






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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 1:47am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:


I have not figured out what the i stands for in Zi and ZXi. any idea?

 
for Internet, like in iPad, or for Intake, like in XDi SUVs
 
And what does X stand for, in that chain of thoughts? I don't see X in "carbon". Tongue
 
 


Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 5:55pm
so fatt, Andro kinetic supreme zylon hinoki vs Xiom Zetro Quad vs the Hayabusa ZXi (all 3 blades that you supposedly thought were the end of your ejing) - which wins and why?
Smile


Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 7:02pm
So from what I understood Zxi is softer, lighter and faster than Mizutani? 

If yes then it's definitely for me Smile


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

So from what I understood Zxi is softer, lighter and faster than Mizutani? 

If yes then it's definitely for me Smile
I am afraid I was wrong if I said it is faster than the MJ. Sorry; I think I had said that after an impressive bouncing test on a bare blade but at play time it is not faster than MJ; probably because the MJ is heavier, stiffer and harder.
it is DEFINITELY softer and lighter (at least my 2 blades are almost 4 to 10gr lighter than the 4 MJ I have owned in the past). 


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Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

 

The Andro Zylon Hinoki could very well be my main blade. It was perfect and frankly I did not need anything better but I am still happy to have found something between the Andro and the MJ in terms of softness and a bit faster too.
 


I guess you meant only faster than the Andro blade then, right? 

So is it slower or same speed then? 


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Posted By: ttping85
Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 7:33pm
ok thanks a lot!!! Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 7:34pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:


by the way my favorite handle in terms of fashion (...) is the ZX.




 
 
Which one has AWD ?




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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 7:35pm
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Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 7:40pm



Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/12/2013 at 7:49pm
it's funny they chose such a fine and lean bird to name such a fast but rather fat motorcycle.

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Posted By: watchski
Date Posted: 01/13/2013 at 12:24pm
I have the Z+.   Its a great blade.   Per your question:  

"the ZX it says 'Zephylium Carbon character in the second layer makes ZX feel sensibly sharp but unbelievably softer than other composite blades', what does it mean?  I wish some one who has the ZX can confirm the structure.  If ZX is indeed has the Zephylium close the CORE, then it looks like they have the descriptions mixed up, and the ZX is a lot like the IF ZLC, which I maybe interested in."

I believe that my Z+ PLAYS THIS WAY: Its very crisp and sharp.   It is also very solid feeling.  I have the TB ZLF and the Xiom zetro quad.    This blade feels like an Off - to me.    
Both the ZQ and the ZLF feel slightly faster but only barely.

I agree, that it feels like the ZLC.  
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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 01/14/2013 at 8:17am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

the Zi has an ayous core sandwiched by Zephylium (not Zcarbon); a strong candidate for Innerforce lovers who do not want the hardness of carbon.

koto - limba - Zephylium - AYOUS - Zephylium - limba - koto

reminder: Z = Zephylium (competitor of Zylon); ZX = Zephylium Carbon (ZLC competitor); 

I have not figured out what the i stands for in Zi and ZXi. any idea?

OK, I think it all makes sense to me now.  They did not just get the description mixed up, the Description is correct for the name.  However, they got the name mixed up LOL.  Whoever setup the printing, is probably going to get canned :).  I think the 'i' in Zi, or ZXi is supposed to stand for inner, just like the Innerforce in BTY blades.  The 'X" I think is suppose to be Extra, for the added Carbon.
 
So this is what I think they want to do:
Z = TB ZLF
Zi = IF ZLF
ZX = TB ZLC
ZXi = IF ZLC.
 
However, they got the 'i' and the non 'i' mixed up.  I did try the IF ZLC, and really like it.  I hope if anyone has play with both IF ZLC and the ZX and confirm their similarity.
 


Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/14/2013 at 10:55am
Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

the Zi has an ayous core sandwiched by Zephylium (not Zcarbon); a strong candidate for Innerforce lovers who do not want the hardness of carbon.

koto - limba - Zephylium - AYOUS - Zephylium - limba - koto


reminder: Z = Zephylium (competitor of Zylon); ZX = Zephylium Carbon (ZLC competitor); 


I have not figured out what the i stands for in Zi and ZXi. any idea?


OK, I think it all makes sense to me now.  They did not just get the description mixed up, the Description is correct for the name.  However, they got the name mixed up LOL.  Whoever setup the printing, is probably going to get canned :).  I think the 'i' in Zi, or ZXi is supposed to stand for inner, just like the Innerforce in BTY blades.  The 'X" I think is suppose to be Extra, for the added Carbon.

 

So this is what I think they want to do:

Z = TB ZLF

Zi = IF ZLF

ZX = TB ZLC

ZXi = IF ZLC.

 

However, they got the 'i' and the non 'i' mixed up.  I did try the IF ZLC, and really like it.  I hope if anyone has play with both IF ZLC and the ZX and confirm their similarity.

 


So, this is the actual list then?

Z = IF ZLF
Zi = TB ZLF
ZX = IF ZLC
ZXi = TB ZLC

So where does the Z+ fit into this?

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/14/2013 at 1:43pm
WOOOOWWW!!! mhnh007 this makes a lot of sense; if it is true then it means the whole series is all mixed up and yes, somebody might start applying out there.

they will probably argue the "i" means the zephylium and zeph/carbon is right after the top ply; the "i" means something like "instant" to express the zeph or zeph/carbon material acts more...instantly Confused because so much closer to the point of contact with the ball. 

would you buy it? LOL



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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/14/2013 at 2:35pm
I just received a Zi picture and it seems that the Z is close to the core! so it is inconsistent --> Zi = inner; ZXi = not inner????




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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 01/14/2013 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

one problem: the Zi has zeph close to the core...

we should ask watchski to make closeup pictures of his Z+ and post them here.

the + might mean a thicker core (wild guess).
Then that would mean they only get the ZX series mixed up :)  The Z+ top ply looks like the Zi, both with KOTO, they both same thickness, but is described as stiffer, not sure how they do it with the total thickness being the same 5.7mm.
 
BTW - how is the vibration in the ZXi that you play with?  I was watching the video they interview a whole bunch of VN players, and also a VN coach, and they all kind of say along the line that the blade does vibrate so it's good for defensive play, or short play, but they were skiptical on the offensive play, they think it may rob them off the power, however, that was not the case, and they were happy about it.  These players, look like they are doing promotion for XIOM, so I have to take it with a grain of salt, but the fact that they all talk about the vibration, makes me wonder...


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/14/2013 at 2:49pm
I HAVE NO vibrations whatsoever with the ZXi; I feel a soft but homogeneous impact; it is brief and clear; not hard. I use M2 2.0mm and Mark v m2 2.0mm.



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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 01/15/2013 at 9:19am
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I HAVE NO vibrations whatsoever with the ZXi; I feel a soft but homogeneous impact; it is brief and clear; not hard. I use M2 2.0mm and Mark v m2 2.0mm.

I don't expect it to have much vibration either.  I play better with blade with hard top ply, so I think ZXi is what I need.  However, the ZX is what I want Smile.  I just hope that tabletennis11 will extend the sale long enough for me to decide...


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/15/2013 at 10:07am

Here are 2 pics of the ZX; the Zeph/Carbon in stuck to the core.








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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/15/2013 at 11:42pm
This is all very confusing. Could someone please write down the blade composition of each of these blades?

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/16/2013 at 12:11am

I asked the question; here was the answer I got 15min ago from Korea after I told him what I thought was true (composition of ZXi and Zi):

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Dear Mr. ----

Please note that the wood composition is actually top secret.

I am not sure who has opened the information like this to the internet.

I am really sorry, I cannot comment on the following information.

 

It is good to hear that you are enjoying Zxi.

This summer we are coming up with new blades that will blow your mind.

It took us more than 4 years to come up with the new blade, and I hope that you can find the new blade satisfying also.

 



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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/16/2013 at 12:16am
Ok, so we don't get the official composition - any unofficial attempts from those who are knowledgeable about the series? Thanks.

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/17/2013 at 11:55pm
I still wonder what is that wood for the ZXi's outer ply; it's supposed to be koto but I am not sure about anything anymore since I have had contradictory info from different sources. 

I'll call it GIRAFFE wood waiting for enlightenment.



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Posted By: mercuur
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 4:51am
Originally posted by jatienza930 jatienza930 wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

a french guy wrote that on the 1st French tt site:

ZEPHYLIUM ® is a polymer exclusively developed for XIOM blades and has a tensile strength 1.6 higher than Aramid. Vibration gives a natural feel and ball speed is improved. Ball control is amazing. Carbon fibers with ZEPHYLIUM creates extra energy and improved ball feeling. ZEPHYLIUM is a trademark of XIOM.
XCARBONE is the name of Carbon materials developed exclusively for XIOM. Carbon is the basis for increasing the speed and resistance. Carbon fibers can develop different properties, methods of training. XCARBONE is a superior fiber that fits well with natural wood. 
Driven into the wood or polymer materials, XCARBONE creates a better and softer feel than other Carbon fibers.



very, very tempting indeed to try those new hayabusa blades Wink


Marketing prose is always tempting.

What it probably means is that xiom has an exclusive license to use a certain polymere produkt for tabletennisblades. As far as tt-blades is concerned it,s not available then for other companies to use it for blades. That exlusive right is part of the license as a deal between a polymere company and Xiom. Names as x-carbon and zephyliom are then some fake names that xiom registrates as their produktnames to label these produkts.

Same time it will probably have tennisrackets or fishing rods with same materials using other phantasynames other prose but all more or less similar. This way all different firms for different branches can use the same produkt and more or less pretend they developed it or had it developed for the produkt they sell.  It,s just 1+1 (a bought) exclusive right within the branch (tabletennisblades) bought with the license plus one or two exclusive names also more or less bought, with a registration fee, as a trademark.

Marketingdepartment then makes it : 1+1 equals 1^2 exclusive .
As if their is a polymer developed as Zephylium instead of named zephylium afterwards (by xiom) and many other names in other branches or even  same branch other companies if the license is not exclusive.

X-carbon will probably be the name for the carbon weave combining ordinary carbon with zephylium. As all weaves x-crossed. The carbon used in the weave can be the same as in all xiom blades.
Marketing is a fabulous skill.


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