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Topic: tenergy fake or genuine
Posted By: PedramTT
Subject: tenergy fake or genuine
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:08pm
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Are these tenergies fake or genuine.? the topsheet is different from other tenergies Ive seen before http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/506043910-pingpong-rubber-Butterfly-TENERGY-64-05820-Table-Tennis-Rubber-wholesalers.html http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/506041791-PingPong-rubber-Butterfly-TENERGY-05-FX-Table-tennis-Rubber-NEW-wholesalers.html
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Posted By: Vihito
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:19pm
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100% fake I have tried a fake tenergy that has the same bottom line, but it was with a different sponge color and hardness, played like a Chinese rubber. |
Posted By: Sofaires
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:21pm
care to share why? ------------- http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/myttsig.jpg/"> 
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Vihito wrote:Posted By: dalamchops
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:24pm
of course it's fake if it has a diff sponge color... ------------- Stiga Titanium 5.4 Cpen Andro Hexer Pips 2.1 Donic Acuda S2 Max |
Posted By: PedramTT
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:31pm
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I actualy played with one with the same bottom line but it had benn bought from a supplier in Iran. I should say from the sponge was really hard to tell if it was fake or not but from the first hit I found the spin was not there also it was a little bit curl and after tuning it became flat I havnt seen this before and it had a brighter surface than normal It was not bad either but speed spin was not there , i say it was better than sriver. bty if it was not from the bottom line it could be so hard to tell if its fake or not for a normal player . ------------- The movement which is the existence of the universe is the movement of love. Ibn 'Arabi, Fusûs al-Hikam |
Posted By: Vihito
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:31pm
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Hope this explains, the fake tenergy has an extra line at the bottom. First image is real tenergy, second is fake http://prikachi.com/images/833/4678833k.jpg - http://prikachi.com/images/833/4678833k.jpg |
Posted By: PedramTT
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:33pm
the sponge also has curving lable on it. exactly like the fake tenergy 64 I played last night ------------- The movement which is the existence of the universe is the movement of love. Ibn 'Arabi, Fusûs al-Hikam |
Posted By: Vihito
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:35pm
If this person is an official Butterfly supplier it should be very concerning. |
Posted By: PedramTT
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:38pm
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the question is why it has extra line at the buttom if they can copy that brilliant or maybe butterfly makes 2 kind of tenergy ???? ------------- The movement which is the existence of the universe is the movement of love. Ibn 'Arabi, Fusûs al-Hikam |
Posted By: Vihito
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:42pm
I have been using tenergy for at least a year and a half, maybe 50% of the people at my club play with tenergy and I have never seen such a bottom line on a genuine one. Interesting that the engraved signs are just like the real tenergy, the T05 that I'm using right now even has it's sign at a 20-30 degree angle, and I'm sure that it's genuine. |
Posted By: bigrich
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 2:51pm
| there is another big way to tell its fake is the butterfly writing is to bold and not embossed enough |
Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 4:11pm
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This is indeed concerning. I guess we can ask Buttery directly if these guys are selling genuine Butterfly rubbers or not
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 6:34pm
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Sorry for the ot, but what is concerning is that tenergy and other bty products are so expensive that people care to make fakes.
Only way to avoid them is to buy from an official reseller and pay full price, unfortunately. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: PedramTT
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 12:23am
yes Im seriously research about this to see wats going on in Iran, the official supplier doesnt sell in Iran like other countries. he has distributer in every state the supplier in Fars is my friend and he is a trusty person , I should realy get through this to see whats going on as my friends are so upset and the have payed for the genuine one I actualy dont play tenergy as the price is to high 120000 t for one sheet thats ridiculas.(and it gets higher like Gold every month) I was the first that played tenergy in Fars and the price was 47000. ------------- The movement which is the existence of the universe is the movement of love. Ibn 'Arabi, Fusûs al-Hikam |
Posted By: PedramTT
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 12:35am
Thank you bigrich r yes thats another point ,but its not easy for many people  ------------- The movement which is the existence of the universe is the movement of love. Ibn 'Arabi, Fusûs al-Hikam |
Posted By: nittakuball
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 10:52am
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[QUOTE=Vihito]
Hope this explains, the fake tenergy has an extra line at the bottom. First image is real tenergy, second is fake http://prikachi.com/images/833/4678833k.jpg - http://prikachi.com/images/833/4678833k.jpg thanks------------- DHS 032 Butterfly Bryce Highspeed Singapore & Canada |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 11:24am
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The box outline that contains the ITTF number on the fake Tenergy is thicker than the real one. -------------  Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 12:03pm
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You buy a foreign tt item from one of the sellers in Alibaba.com, and you expect it is not fake. It's quite beyond me. If you want genuine products, do not buy items from alibaba.com or taobao.com :) ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 04/24/2012 at 9:01am
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@PedramTT
Hi, man It is a real pleasure to see table tennis sport upswinging now in Iran. Alamian Noshad gets now noticible prominence on world arena, he crushed Wang Liqin mercilessly a time ago and goes on upstair in WorldRanking. Prodigy player of Iran. Friend, could you tell us some more about how the sport is going in your fatherland? Above all, I'd like to know about the coaching in Iran. It looks like Iranian Table Tennis Federation prefers to cooperate with German trainers, not with Chinese. Have you some thinking of why the ITTF took the course to the Europian playing style rather than to Chinese style? Thanks. |
Posted By: PedramTT
Date Posted: 04/24/2012 at 2:10pm
Thank you so much for your comment igorponger yes indeed Alamiyan is so good at the table he has a winning spirit and he has a lot of tendency to win a match,.. who doesnt have? It doesnt realy matter for me that if wang Or Alamiyan win against another or if Iran become the world No.1 , I'm always with the one who plays better. may there be a day that people dont say (with proud) I'm Spanish I'm Iranian I'm Italiyan I'm Russian. Actualy I once was winning Wang Liqin in a Match about 4 years ago, suddenly I saw he was upset and it will be so bad for him to lose against me, so I lost to him somehow that nobody would understand. I really didnt know this thoroughly 4 years ago that in this world you should lose to win sth. I also saw Xu Xin about 2 years ago in a dream , he was really a good man. please dont accuse me for not having passion for my country as its not like that. bty dont think I lose easily aginst you my friends I'm not that easy person I dont give anything to anyone so easily you should be at least Wang Liqin LOL . ---------------- but about how the sport going in my fatherland, this is the question actualy like other things in Iran Table Tennis is like a big Mafia I cant explain clearly as my english is not that good. Iran has so many talented player but when theres no place for the game how can one find and shows his capacity. not always one man can make a difference,... believe me one man always can make a difference but i think I'm the only one that can go to where ever I want and enjoy the game, may God forgive me I'm so playful. ------------------------------------------------------------ If you drink wine, let a drop or two spill A sin that helps another, courageously fulfill. ------------- The movement which is the existence of the universe is the movement of love. Ibn 'Arabi, Fusûs al-Hikam |
Posted By: liang1983
Date Posted: 04/25/2012 at 8:55am
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Fake Tenergy 05 (FX) impressions http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42805&PN=1&title=fake-tenergy-05-fx-impressions Fake Butterfly Rubber http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1617&PN=1&title=fake-butterfly-rubber ------------- Butterfly Photino Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05 |
Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 09/04/2012 at 5:41pm
thanks for this. I just got some from ebay uk seller for a few £ less than rrp. Seller has 100% feedback. My 1st time of buying Tenergy so was not aware of the potential pitfalls until now. The rubber played pretty bad and although it was humid I couldnt get 3 out of 10 counter loops on. The bounce was lower than an old 2mm sheet of Omega Pro. It got me thinking... The rubber has the extra line at the bottom so I have contacted the seller... ------------- Stratus Powerwood FH T05 BH T25 |
Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 09/04/2012 at 7:49pm
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JUST AN ADVICE TO BE REMEMBERED
Friends. The best way for you to avoid a fake of Tenergy would be not to buy those with 2.1 mm thick sponge. The point is that all the fakers are known to only produce the thickest Tenergy version. Such is an advice I was informed from a proficient table tennis trader of Poland. Hence, it is absolutely safe for you to buy the Tenergy with 1.7/1.9 sponge affixed.. Just bear in your mind, Chinese fakers/reproducers will never try for a thinner Tenergy, but 2.1 mm solely. |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/04/2012 at 11:39pm
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Igorponger is also on an agenda to get sponges thicker than 1.8 mm banned by ITTF because he thinks it ruins the sport. You can find this on some of his previous posts. You think the booster ban is ridiculous? Me too, but this is the next thing clowns from ITTF are pushing. So this piece of "advice" does not surprise me, but it is also absurd, and perhaps not entirely sincere. The actual best way to avoid buying fake Tenergy is to buy from reputable dealers and then you can get whatever thickness you want. If you buy on ebay or taobao or from shops nobody has ever heard of, you are taking your chances. |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 09/05/2012 at 12:18am
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Those yellow sponge Tenergy are like $3 each and red sponge Tenergy are about $8 retail from taobao. There are even bigger profit involved for wholesale so the problem will not go away soon. But I think the bigger problem is not just fake but those selling fake as real. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/05/2012 at 12:21pm
To which I would add, people knowingly buying fakes. But it's hard for players like PedramTT. I have many Iranian practice partners here in the US--excellent players, one of whom is a good friend of Alamiyan's father-- and they told me it was hard to get equipment there. |
Posted By: alborz
Date Posted: 09/05/2012 at 12:34pm
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it is 100% fake because the color of sponge is different . ------------- Balde : Donic Epox Control Forehand : Donic BlueFire M1 (Black / MAX) Backhand : Donic Vario Big Slam (Red / MAX) Zhang Jike : Man Of Steel |
Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 09/05/2012 at 12:46pm
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Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 09/05/2012 at 2:57pm
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Here are some images I took of the Tenergy and packaging I got off ebay... http://www.flickr.com/photos/69501312@N04/7938637480/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/69501312@N04/7938636588/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/69501312@N04/7938636092/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/69501312@N04/7938635574/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/69501312@N04/7938635174/ ------------- Stratus Powerwood FH T05 BH T25 |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 09/06/2012 at 4:24am
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riker71, I am afraid your T05 is fake. Not only the extra edge on the bottom but also bolder than normal print. It is bad news that fake Tenergy start selling on ebay now. Normally those are new sellers from HK and China, and charge near full price to catch customer off guard. I suggest you ask your seller for refund right away if he is still around. Good luck.
I see you have pics of real Butterfly Roundell in your album so I believe you know what a real Butterfly looks like. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 09/06/2012 at 8:50am
Yes I agree it is fake, thanks for the confirmation though. I am in process of getting a refund from Seller. Seller seems to be co operating and at the moment I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Have to return first which is a pita otherwise would need to do a paypal dispute and get some official documentation. If I dont get a refund I will be sending pics to Butterfly and ebay and see what they do. Shouldnt come to that though. Seller says got from Poland.. ------------- Stratus Powerwood FH T05 BH T25 |
Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 09/06/2012 at 9:41am
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wow, becareful buying these rubbers from ebay man. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27730&title=feedback-tsanyc - My Feedback
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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/07/2012 at 11:19pm
| My fear about the sites just listed by Janetang is that all you would get there are more convincing fakes. And the buychina site she listed charges more than Butterfly USA. |
Posted By: Cubinican
Date Posted: 09/09/2012 at 2:06am
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I wish I could have read this two weeks ago. I bought four sheets from these guys and the minute I opened the package I knew it was fake. Everything looked good until you touched the sponge. It's amazing how much work they went into cloning this rubber. Great job...except now my credit card is going to hunt you guys down..l.at least I have protection from Citibank. ------------- Galatians 6:7 BTY Innerforce ALC Tenergy 05 fx http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53243&PID=654967#654967 |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 09/09/2012 at 2:23am
I really hope ebay can do something to stop those sellers as I can still see many auctions with fake Tenergy around. They are smart not to mark the price down too much so more people will fall into their traps as price is not an indication of telling the truth any more. Those sellers just won't feel bad charging you 10x more than what it is worth. Even if 5 out of 10 found out their tricks and ask for refund they are still making big profit playing their game. Shame!  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/13/2013 at 12:42pm
| Now we have another differential mark - the plastic cover of the new Ts has diagonal holographic stamps of Butterfly. |
Posted By: pingponger
Date Posted: 02/13/2013 at 1:01pm
 also, even if there was no extra line at the bottom, there are other equally obvious indications it is fake: the letters and rectangle borders are thicker (sign of less-precise molding equipment) |
Posted By: Gauguin
Date Posted: 02/14/2013 at 2:20pm
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Found this at Butterfly USA:
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