What is the SOFTEST sponge in the Universe?
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Topic: What is the SOFTEST sponge in the Universe?
Posted By: Globe999
Subject: What is the SOFTEST sponge in the Universe?
Date Posted: 10/28/2012 at 11:19pm
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I remember reading that back in the day most players selected a topsheet and sponge independently of each other. It seems like hardly anyone does it today when you examine the marketplace. I need the world's softest sponge! What is it? Where can I get it? ------------- ______________________________ Phoenixville Table Tennis Club http://PhoenixvilleTTC.com - http://PhoenixvilleTTC.com |
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Posted By: Nagatito
Date Posted: 10/28/2012 at 11:48pm
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Any soft sponge with lots of speed glue ------------- Blade: Timo Boll ALC FH: T05 BH: Roundell |
Posted By: Anderni
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 7:14am
| Dunno if it's the softest in the universe, but colestt.com has some Air 30 deg sponges which can't be far off. He's got good topsheets as well and the site has tutorials for combining them. |
Posted By: Vihito
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 8:29am
The softest I tried is the Butterfly Solcion 
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Posted By: TTFrenzy
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 9:02am
| xiom omega iv elite and tibhar nimbus soft , are the softest rubbers from the populas rubbers i have played . xiom is bery good for backhand , it provides good feeling , tibhar nimbus wears down rather fast |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 9:33am
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the softest is the joola timeless sponge. its like a dishwashing sponge soft ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 1:07pm
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by mark, there is a palio gps 28deg. Never tried it and don't know where to find it, but I know people in the past at least who have gotten it. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: megaspin01
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 1:19pm
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by density, i haven't seen any lower than solcion (28 deg) u don't want too soft sponge btw. it's for developing loopers using a lot of brush with little drive (soft topspin). although there are some really muscular players who can generate a lot of speed and spin just from brushing and some drive, a strong fh (~2200+) could achieve an even faster and spinnier shot with less power used by using a hard topspin technique ------------- *not related to megaspin.com |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 10:11pm
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timeless way softer than solcion or palio gps ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 10:14pm
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guys, none of these are as soft as the Grip-S that ttnpp sells ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: melarimsa
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 10:28pm
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Butterfly Solcion ------------- http://www.youtube.com/100NiTenis" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/100NiTenis |
Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 10:50pm
| Desto F3 Bigslam. |
Posted By: decoi
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 11:10pm
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xiom omega elite isnt that soft but on the other hand vega elite is almost pure air ------------- Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao FH: TG3 BS BH: Xiom Omega 4 Aisa Blade: Hurricane Hao 2 (656) Fh: Dhs Gold Arc 3 Bh: Stiga Tour H http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhee |
Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 10/29/2012 at 11:15pm
| What about the dawei butter sponge. I thought that was supposed to be ridiculously soft. |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 6:17am
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i still reiterate that the joola timeless has the softest sponge. many of you haven't even tried that anti spin rubber.. its wayyyyyy softer than all of the rubbers you guys have mentioned ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Anderni
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 9:17am
| I think the OP wanted to buy the sponge separately, though. Of course you could buy a rubber and manually separate the topsheet, but it'll be easier to just buy a 5-10$ sponge. |
Posted By: decoi
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 9:21am
while its soft its also breaks when you even glance at it ------------- Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao FH: TG3 BS BH: Xiom Omega 4 Aisa Blade: Hurricane Hao 2 (656) Fh: Dhs Gold Arc 3 Bh: Stiga Tour H http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhee |
yogi_bear wrote:Posted By: shirazir
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 9:32am
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Can I just ask again why OP wants the softest sponge available? I'd not like to play anything more than a brush-loop with a sponge as soft as Joola Timeless. ------------- Blade: Galaxy Venus-14 FH: Donic Bluefire M3 BH: Galaxy Moon |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 11:27am
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Actually, i'm thinking you can't really brush loop with a super soft sponge. Don't you need a harder sponge and tacky topsheet to brush loop? With soft sponge you use a non tacky top and you have to sink the ball. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: shirazir
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 11:32am
You speak the truth! Only thing I was thinking was that the sponge would be so soft you could probably get it in play when brush looping/lifting backspin. Any sort of power loop, drive, or flatter shot would just bottom out the sponge. In fact, I remember a pre-made racket I used to play with back in the day that probably had a hardness of no more than 24-25 degrees. It used to bottom out on everything but pushes and brush loops. Hell, it used to bottom out on fast, long serves!  ------------- Blade: Galaxy Venus-14 FH: Donic Bluefire M3 BH: Galaxy Moon |
Posted By: Globe999
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 11:32am
Because I have met the Dawei 30 degree butter, and I like it very much. I want to keep going lower, I want to see it all! ------------- ______________________________ Phoenixville Table Tennis Club http://PhoenixvilleTTC.com - http://PhoenixvilleTTC.com |
Posted By: shirazir
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 11:33am
Ah, more for EJing purposes. In that case, carry on!  ------------- Blade: Galaxy Venus-14 FH: Donic Bluefire M3 BH: Galaxy Moon |
Posted By: Globe999
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 11:33am
I do not fear the "bottoming out", I embrace it. ------------- ______________________________ Phoenixville Table Tennis Club http://PhoenixvilleTTC.com - http://PhoenixvilleTTC.com |
Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 10/30/2012 at 2:40pm
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@Globe999
729 FX Super Soft ---41*HD DONIC DestoF3 Big Slam ---35*HD should be quite the thing to meet your purpose. Not easy to find here, in Europe., thought. http://tabletennis-reviews.com/reference/sponge-hardness-table/ - http://tabletennis-reviews.com/reference/sponge-hardness-table/ Rubber's Hardness rating list. Truly useful reference. |
Posted By: Globe999
Date Posted: 11/07/2012 at 9:39pm
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I think I am having a bad EJ reaction. I had my best results at a tournament ever a month ago. I was using Palio CJ8000 1.4mm on Dawei Butter 30 degree sponge 1.8mm. I wanted to get another sheet for backup, but it turned out the sponge was not available. So I tried the 35 degree version. It just wasn't the same. I thought I'd tough it out. I thought, if I'm only going to be able to get the 35 in the future, I better get used to it now. Yesterday at the club I played OK, but I just got fed up and decided to go back to the 30 degree sponge. With the 35 degree sponge, I just lost 3-0 to my friend and nemesis, whom I rarely win a single game against. Now with the 30 degree sponge I was up 2-0 in one of my best performances against him ever. I must protect my future, I need more Dawei 30 degree Butter sponge! Cole is running out, who else could I possibly get it from?!?
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 11/08/2012 at 12:11am
802-40 mistery 3 comes with a pale green ultrasoft sponge,any way where to get that kind of sponge like the butter stuff under some 729 sheets
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 11/08/2012 at 4:29am
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the sponge of the joola timeless doesn't immediately goes back to its original form if you press your fingers on it, its that soft ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: YosuaYosan
Date Posted: 11/08/2012 at 5:06am
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Haven't found anything as soft as the sponge in my Tibhar Genius Optimum+ Sound. ------------- GFoT| Blade : ProTop Arylate FL • FH : DHS 3 NEO BLACK MAX • BH : Kokutaku 007 Inner Power Sponge RED MAX Crossover to Takeover! |
Posted By: manofan
Date Posted: 11/08/2012 at 10:51am
| the sponge of the feint long 3 is the softest sponge that i ever see... i doubt that any otehr sponge can be more soft |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 11/10/2012 at 4:10am
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because you guys have not try the joola timeless antispin ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 11/10/2012 at 5:55am
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I was quite suprised with my Andro Hexer+ for my backhand RPB. Very good control |
Posted By: wangli
Date Posted: 11/10/2012 at 5:40pm
| Joola Samba+ |