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Topic: An old catalog in my hand
Posted By: TKMP
Subject: An old catalog in my hand
Date Posted: 11/19/2013 at 10:43pm
First of all thank for Mr. Johnny Erasure, cheer me to show my catalog that take for long time to do it.  Because of my low-techLOL  OK let take a look, hope you enjoy my post.Sleepy
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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 11/19/2013 at 11:08pm
6. and this one, catalog in 2003-2004 for Mr.Johnny Erasure









Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/19/2013 at 11:13pm
Very nice! Brings back memories of the old Tempest and Plous BTY rubbers. BTY has come a long way since then. Thanks for sharing. Smile

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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 11/19/2013 at 11:15pm
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Date Posted: 11/19/2013 at 11:25pm
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Date Posted: 11/19/2013 at 11:27pm
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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 11/19/2013 at 11:31pm
Old catalog for YASAKA





Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 11/19/2013 at 11:34pm
And last one for .....Double happiness >>>> DHS






Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 11/19/2013 at 11:35pm
Thank you Mr. Frogger, you come first.Clap


Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 12:10am
Wow!  Your collections are amazing.  You must really love table tennis.


Posted By: Olio
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 9:21am
Thanks,

these seem to close the debate once and for all whether it's Mark V (for victory) or Mark V (for five)


Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 9:27am
Olio, I never knew that was debated.  I never heard it called anything but Mark Five.


Posted By: Olio
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 9:32am
Well, it was debated on a forum. Not sure that means much, but the scan should put an end to that discussion ;)


Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 9:39am
I see.  Just wondered.  I bought my first sheet of the stuff in 1973 or thereabouts.  We always called it Mark Five, but we were pretty far from the table tennis universe where I lived.  But I never heard it called anything else since then.


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 9:52am
@TKMP
I think you, as a do-gooder & a t/t fanatics & enthusiast like all of us here, should scan all pages (as PDFs) of these cataloges & email to all those who love these goodness....If it is not too much trouble for you. Big smile
That Double Happiness blade in World Champion Guo YaoHwa's hand was exactly the type I or most of us that generation played with.


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Posted By: Olio
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 9:53am
I've always called it Mark Five as well, but someone on the another forum on the internet (!) was adamant that the V was for Victory.




Posted By: pingpongpaddy
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 9:55am
Originally posted by TKMP TKMP wrote:

And last one for .....Double happiness >>>> DHS






Very nice TKMP
I used to buy that stuff in china town in London. It was very good value.
I notice Guo YueHua is Kwok Yeuk-Wah, a spelling I haven't seen for a long time

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Posted By: ttvet86
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 10:48am
Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:


That Double Happiness blade in World Champion Guo YaoHwa's hand was exactly the type I or most of us that generation played with.


+1... The happy memories...😀


Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 10:49am
Never even heard of Super Sriver and Sriver Killer. How were they different from regular Sriver, I wonder...


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Posted By: ttvet86
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 10:53am
I had that DHS blade paired with the green Tempest back then...


Posted By: ttvet86
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 10:54am
Super Sriver had smaller pips, making it a little faster, Sriver killer was just anti.


Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 11:30am
Clap

Very cool stuff.


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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 11:39am
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Never even heard of Super Sriver and Sriver Killer. How were they different from regular Sriver, I wonder...


Don't forget sriver Kawatsuki !! The hard sponge !!

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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Never even heard of Super Sriver and Sriver Killer. How were they different from regular Sriver, I wonder...
 
  There wasn't anything super concerning Super Sriver. It was a marketing ploy to expand the Sriver name. It had less spin than regular Sriver, was allround in speed and was a good blocking rubber. 
 
 Sriver Killer was a slow anti.
 
OMG to think back in those days a player could get a Primorac or Korbel in 3 handle types! Smile


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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by ttvet86 ttvet86 wrote:

+1... The happy memories...😀
Come to think of it..I might still have that Cpen w/old Sriver D or something in 1 of my boxes locked up in storage shed in my SE Asian hometown (my eldest bro's house) since 1989. Wink

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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 1:57pm
I have a BTY Clearfield, it is a heavy 7-ply. With T05 2.1 both sides it is terrible heavy. I thought the VSG series where great blades as I had one. I also owned a Cypress-P and Cypress X...gone to who knows where. LOL

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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 2:15pm
the sriver had a choice between "S" and "L" versions, then the kawatsuki sponge (little dots in the sponge)

yasaka came out later with a "h plus" version of their mark v which was a harder sponge

:)


Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Never even heard of Super Sriver and Sriver Killer. How were they different from regular Sriver, I wonder...

 I used to play with super sriver, spinnier with more control than Sriver L or S. Sriver killer was an anti-loop, dead as hell. 




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Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 2:22pm
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I see.  Just wondered.  I bought my first sheet of the stuff in 1973 or thereabouts.  We always called it Mark Five, but we were pretty far from the table tennis universe where I lived.  But I never heard it called anything else since then.
 Definitely V for five, its predecessor was Cobra III which everyone called cobra 3. I think it was always Mark V, but they started using the V for victory as a sales pitch.  


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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 2:34pm
the one i wondered about:

yasaka came out with a rubber called "V Stage"

is that "five stage" or "vee stage" ??

:)


Posted By: bogeyhunter
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 3:05pm
Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I see.  Just wondered.  I bought my first sheet of the stuff in 1973 or thereabouts.  We always called it Mark Five, but we were pretty far from the table tennis universe where I lived.  But I never heard it called anything else since then.
 I think it was always Mark V, but they started using the V for victory as a sales pitch.  

I always call it Mark 5 but often heard "V for victory".
This really brings back old memory. See translation on the 4th and 5th one? The tackiness one. I guess that was old school translation using dictionary years ago.


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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 3:16pm
Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I see.  Just wondered.  I bought my first sheet of the stuff in 1973 or thereabouts.  We always called it Mark Five, but we were pretty far from the table tennis universe where I lived.  But I never heard it called anything else since then.
 Definitely V for five, its predecessor was Cobra III which everyone called cobra 3. I think it was always Mark V, but they started using the V for victory as a sales pitch.  


Cobra 3.  Came in green.  LOL!  Can't belioeve you could use Super Sriver.  Stuff was awful.  I was a confirmed Mark V guy in those days.


Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I see.  Just wondered.  I bought my first sheet of the stuff in 1973 or thereabouts.  We always called it Mark Five, but we were pretty far from the table tennis universe where I lived.  But I never heard it called anything else since then.
 Definitely V for five, its predecessor was Cobra III which everyone called cobra 3. I think it was always Mark V, but they started using the V for victory as a sales pitch.  


Cobra 3.  Came in green.  LOL!  Can't belioeve you could use Super Sriver.  Stuff was awful.  I was a confirmed Mark V guy in those days.
 It was an acquired taste, spin loop flat hit. After that I used Dunlop Prexy f/hand Tacky drive b/hand on a Alser alround. By early 1980's Mark V both sides with a ton of Tiptop tyre glue on a Grubba alround.


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Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by bogeyhunter bogeyhunter wrote:

Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I see.  Just wondered.  I bought my first sheet of the stuff in 1973 or thereabouts.  We always called it Mark Five, but we were pretty far from the table tennis universe where I lived.  But I never heard it called anything else since then.
 I think it was always Mark V, but they started using the V for victory as a sales pitch.  

I always call it Mark 5 but often heard "V for victory".
This really brings back old memory. See translation on the 4th and 5th one? The tackiness one. I guess that was old school translation using dictionary years ago.

 'look It snaps at the ball' LOL


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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 3:55pm
Yasaka DO and Tornado in yellow !!

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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 4:08pm
When I was a beginner I actually thought my green Cobra was to fast on Johansson Allround blade. I still have that blade. My oh my have times changed! LOL

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Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 5:02pm
Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Tornado in yellow !!
YES !!!! what a rubber that was, they couldn't make it in red or black so it was finished when they brought the two colour rule in, but it was very popular a round the early 1980's. can you remember who made it? I seem to think TSP

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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 5:03pm
Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Tornado in yellow !!
YES !!!! what a rubber that was, they couldn't make it in red or black so it was finished when they brought the two colour rule in, but it was very popular a round the early 1980's. can you remember who made it? I seem to think TSP

Yasaka made it ,  it could do any shot !!


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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 5:13pm
tornado ended up being available in many colors, didn't it?

like (red/black/green/blue?)

:)


Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 9:47pm
Here for Supper Sriver and Yasaka DO






Posted By: ttvet86
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 11:13pm
Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Originally posted by ttvet86 ttvet86 wrote:

+1... The happy memories...😀
Come to think of it..I might still have that Cpen w/old Sriver D or something in 1 of my boxes locked up in storage shed in my SE Asian hometown (my eldest bro's house) since 1989. Wink

I lost track of mine after i switched to shakehand, i think to a BTY Powersmash with sriver. Being from SE Asia myself, i think the termites got it 😂


Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 11/20/2013 at 11:26pm
Thank you for sharing!

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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 12:11am
Shawn O'Neal told me he used Yasaka DO on his BH. Speed glue days of course. It probably played like a boosted H3 or H2 of today. And don't forget Yasaka Black Power! Smile

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Posted By: king_pong
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 1:30am
Looking for some Yasaka DO (for a friend who swears by it) if anyone has any lying around Smile.  He swears by it.  I thought it resembled Joola Drum.

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Posted By: Olio
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 3:24am
All these rubber names suddenly reappearing in memory...

I started TT in the 80s and read all the catalogs I had many many times... Wondering whether these are still at my parents'...


Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 3:46am
Originally posted by in2spin in2spin wrote:

tornado ended up being available in many colors, didn't it?

like (red/black/green/blue?)

:)
 It was never the same as when it was in its natural colour, which was  yellow/gold/brownish which I think they used to say was the natural colour of the cachouc rubber rubber used.


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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 8:33am
That red Super Sriver really bring back memory.  I remember they are very fast, and chipped very easily around the edge.  I don't recall ever see a black Super Sriver though.


Posted By: 1dennistt
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 9:52am
Look at how dense the pimples are in Super Sriver, I remember it having a harder feel than Sriver, which accounted for the speed increase.  I think Wei came out as a replacement for Do, but never caught on with Do users.  The one's I knew who tried it didn't seem to like it as well.  Sriver Killer made Super Anti look spinny by comparison, and it was very slow.  Don't forget in those days you could have the same color on both sides of your paddle, like Red Mark V and Red Sriver Killer! Wink


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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 10:56am
Yasaka Do vs. Tibhar Dang.  Like Godzilla vs. Mothra.


Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 11:14am
Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

That red Super Sriver really bring back memory.  I remember they are very fast, and chipped very easily around the edge.  I don't recall ever see a black Super Sriver though.

 I don't  think they made super sriver in black, they always seemed to have problems with the dyes in those days, black rubbers were always considerably slower than red, but black glued up better, which is why many players used it on their f/hands. I can remember quite a few players playing with Sriver killer topsheet on mark V sponge so they could mix the spin and hit John Hilton style. Rubber regulations were not so strict back in the day.


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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 12:25pm
Back in the day I used gold Yasaka Tornado on FH and BTY Super Sriver on BH. Glued Tornado was almost the same as glued Mark V with perhaps slightly less spin. Super Sriver was very fast for blocking but a complete dud for looping. Even BTY Fraulein was a better rubber or simple D-13. I think BTY should bring back some of those old rubbers and blades just for the fun of it. Smile

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Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

Super Sriver was very fast for blocking but a complete dud for looping.

 You had to contact thin, off the top sheet with low pace, it wasn't a loop driving rubber. England has a rich history with TT, and there was an abundance of quality coaches back then. My Coach had learned his stuff in the 1960's the birth decade of loop. The whole point of the loop initially was to make the opponent pop the ball up because he could not control the topspin, you then looked for a kill with a flat hit. There was a definite distinction between a loop and a flat hit, loop driving has blended these two strokes together somewhat.  Though I have adapted with the times to a certain extent, the pattern of my structured game remains the same, I go for heavy topsin on the follow up to serve, only these days it is to try and stop my opponent forcing a quick ball on me rather than making the ball pop up, then I look for a closed angle loop drive on the 5th ball instead of a flat kill. I found Super Sriver perfect for making the distinction between pure spin loop, and flat hit, it just felt so crisp, as opposed to mark V, which I believe was the first rubber to allow the spin and pace for loop driving. Crikey, once you start reminiscing LOL 


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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 6:38pm
Yasaka Panther and Technique where also great blades. My BTY Cypress-P was the only rectangular shaped shakehand blade I ever owned. Speed glued Sriver Kawasuki max was the T64 of it's day. I also remember the 3rd offerings of the BTY Power Drive blades. Smaller blade size and you could get a Power Drive in 3 handle shapes. AN, ST, FL....how cool is that!

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Posted By: nittakuball
Date Posted: 11/21/2013 at 11:47pm
Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Yasaka DO and Tornado in yellow !!


in 1980s I use those before.

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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 11/22/2013 at 1:57pm
yasaka had panther and leopard - one was one ply, the other 3 ply...forget which way

for jpen - yasaka had gt3 (thin 1 ply cypress or hinoki), gt5 (thick 1 ply cypress or hinoki), or gt7 (1 ply judas).  butterfly had their 1 ply cypress or hinoki blade - that came with a full cork back

another popular shake blade back then was a yasaka 6x (for 6 ply blade)

i had a power drive with the straight handle - that had the uni-directional handle that was angled at the throat (so the stripe looked like an L)

:)


Posted By: Roger Stillabower
Date Posted: 11/22/2013 at 2:05pm
Anyone use Hock inverted rubber ? That was the first inverted I used back in the late 60's. I use to go to Bernie's house and buy his rubber, 3 ply and 5 ply blades.He also had a water based glue back then. Those was the days when all I could find Hock, Butterfly and Yasaka inverted.

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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 11/22/2013 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by Roger Stillabower Roger Stillabower wrote:

Anyone use Hock inverted rubber ? That was the first inverted I used back in the late 60's. I use to go to Bernie's house and buy his rubber, 3 ply and 5 ply blades.He also had a water based glue back then. Those was the days when all I could find Hock, Butterfly and Yasaka inverted.

the one's that I could find are all dried up and chipped. LOL


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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 11/22/2013 at 9:38pm
Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Originally posted by Roger Stillabower Roger Stillabower wrote:

Anyone use Hock inverted rubber ? That was the first inverted I used back in the late 60's. I use to go to Bernie's house and buy his rubber, 3 ply and 5 ply blades.He also had a water based glue back then. Those was the days when all I could find Hock, Butterfly and Yasaka inverted.

the one's that I could find are all dried up and chipped. LOL


lol....


Posted By: shaolinTT
Date Posted: 11/22/2013 at 10:15pm
Originally posted by TKMP TKMP wrote:

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Thanks for bringing back some fond memories Smile.  Forty years or so ago, my dad bought me an "English Style", green rubber on both sides and leather wrapped handle. 



Posted By: Johnny Erasure
Date Posted: 11/23/2013 at 12:37pm
Thank you! Thank You!! Thanks a lot!!! Just now I saw the pictures! Can you send me pls the pics of the catalog 2003-2004 to my email?

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Posted By: tt4u
Date Posted: 11/23/2013 at 6:03pm
Thanks to TKMP I now know what I am selling (the wakaba at the upper left in picture 2, http://www.tabletennis.gr/forum/items-for-sale/150938-used-old-blades-sell-trade#150938).


Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 05/02/2014 at 11:15pm


Oh shooot.. I've been looking for some time now that Sriver logo with a player spinning on the right side and can't find it anywhere, lol.

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Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 05/02/2014 at 11:26pm
Originally posted by tt4u tt4u wrote:

Thanks to TKMP I now know what I am selling (the wakaba at the upper left in picture 2, http://www.tabletennis.gr/forum/items-for-sale/150938-used-old-blades-sell-trade#150938).

Oh how I use to like Wakaba, I like it's classic head shape.
till now I emulate some of my blades from it.


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Posted By: hmc_jr
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 1:56am
thanks for posting the catalogs... i was wondering if anybody has the one when butterfly first came out with the tamca 5000? i remember lots of funky blades there... some truly classics as well... i remember playing with a squarish wakaba waaay back... hahahaha... 


Posted By: stanton65
Date Posted: 05/10/2014 at 9:53am
These old catalog make me remember my old rackets as I had bought a few in Mauritius as these were premade such as the Stipansic, Klampar and  Joyner. These were only available locally with Shriver 1.5mm rubbers. Thanks for the souvenirs.


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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 12:41am
Hi, every one.  I have an old catalog from 1983 to show you, hope you like it. LOL









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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 2:58am
Thnaks for the Pictures TKMP. Do you know the Name of the model which is the last shakehand blade that is shown after the Pulser Allwood?

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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 3:15am
It's name is "TARLES"


Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/26/2015 at 3:25am
Thanks, i was not 100% sure.

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Posted By: Dreamer21
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 4:22am


Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 4:31am
Yes, i noticed the different Handle Design. Thanks.   

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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 4:34am
Originally posted by Dreamer21 Dreamer21 wrote:


Very nice one.


Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 4:38am
Which design is the older one? This here on the Picture or the other?

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Posted By: Dreamer21
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 4:44am
younger one


Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 5:03am
Thanks, B.

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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 5:31am
Originally posted by Dreamer21 Dreamer21 wrote:

younger one

Thank you


Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 7:11am
I have this younger ones too. LOL



Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 7:25am
Nice Ones
Since i have two experts here i have some questions:

1. I assume Kong Linghui Premium was released before the Kong Linghui Special, is that correct?
2. At an old Paddle Palace Pricelist there is a Modell called Majestic that is priced at the same sales Price than the Orlowski so i assume it is not a premade. Maybe Dreamer 21 has more informations about it?
3. I noticed Butterfly has changed the internal code of the Primorac T5000 in the early 2000.Is it possible they Change the code if they slightly Change the composition of the model?

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Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 7:44am
I know only Kong Linghui Premium was issued first in 2003, only in Japan.


Posted By: E.ZegnaFan
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 4:13pm
Originally posted by TKMP TKMP wrote:

I have this younger ones too. LOL


Nice rare and expensive old blades Thumbs Up


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87 Stiga Clipper/Rakza 9.
78 Stiga Super Carbon/Calibra Tour M.


LF: Old Stiga Clipper,Super Carbon in NEARLY NEW condition.


Posted By: E.ZegnaFan
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 4:23pm
Originally posted by TKMP TKMP wrote:

I know only Kong Linghui Premium was issued first in 2003, only in Japan.

Butterfly Spring 2003 Catalog





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87 Stiga Clipper/Rakza 9.
78 Stiga Super Carbon/Calibra Tour M.


LF: Old Stiga Clipper,Super Carbon in NEARLY NEW condition.


Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 10:01pm
Originally posted by E.ZegnaFan E.ZegnaFan wrote:

Originally posted by TKMP TKMP wrote:

I have this younger ones too. LOL


Nice rare and expensive old blades Thumbs Up

I bought it only $32.........................................twenty years ago. LOL LOL LOL


Posted By: E.ZegnaFan
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 10:51pm
Originally posted by TKMP TKMP wrote:


I bought it only $32.........................................twenty years ago. LOL LOL LOL

Price in 1983 is only $16.95 Big smile. You must bought it later around mid-90's . I saw the Butterfly Topspin at left second row for 5,000 Yen while the Tarles one only 3,500 Yen. In today market, price for both has been reversed with a large marginConfused Another blade from right second row is a Butterfly New Leather for a nice 4,000 YenClap


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87 Stiga Clipper/Rakza 9.
78 Stiga Super Carbon/Calibra Tour M.


LF: Old Stiga Clipper,Super Carbon in NEARLY NEW condition.


Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 03/28/2015 at 5:28am
Thanks for the nice postings!
Could I ask what is the difference between Scorna and Gergely?


Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 03/28/2015 at 5:45am
Originally posted by kolevtt kolevtt wrote:

Thanks for the nice postings!
Could I ask what is the difference between Scorna and Gergely?

Scorna is a defensive blade with a bigger head if I remember well (I sold the ones I had), it is much lighter than Gergely and very slow.
The scorna t5000 is a very good one for an all-round game but unfortunately (for me) it was only made with FL handle, difficult for twiddling if you don't have big hands.


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Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm


Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 03/28/2015 at 5:59am
Considering the weight of the Scorna T5000 i can add that while playing you will be doing a nice workout at the same time - the one i own has a weight of 120 gramms   

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 03/28/2015 at 6:04am
Originally posted by Timo1978 Timo1978 wrote:

Considering the weight of the Scorna T5000 i can add that while playing you will be doing a nice workout at the same - the one i own has a weight of 120 gramms   

Yes mine was +/-107gr but my scorna (normal) less than 85gr.


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