Rasant Grip/Power Grip
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Topic: Rasant Grip/Power Grip
Posted By: beeray1
Subject: Rasant Grip/Power Grip
Date Posted: 03/31/2014 at 8:17pm
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Anybody heard anything about these bad boys? Here's grip: http://iruiru.com/goods_page.php?ct=P&mk=J&gd=AJ056" rel="nofollow - http://iruiru.com/goods_page.php?ct=P&mk=J&gd=AJ056
Power Grip: http://iruiru.com/goods_page.php?ct=P&mk=J&gd=AJ055" rel="nofollow - http://iruiru.com/goods_page.php?ct=P&mk=J&gd=AJ055
I'm very interested in the regular Grip version, as it's spin emphasis. oh boy!
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Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 03/31/2014 at 9:39pm
| Not yet but people are expecting big things from it. A few pros are for real using rasant turbo on the tour now and this is supposed to be better again |
Posted By: tabletennis11
Date Posted: 04/01/2014 at 12:04am
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It sounds like it's going to be an adaptation to the new ball. As the plastic ball reduces rotation and speed, Rasant powergrip combines tensor effect and extra grip together to essentially maximise power and spin together. Sounds intruiging! ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6QlKrAbsMQ?utm_source=mytt-signature" rel="nofollow - Click Here to see TableTennis11 CEO Sergei Petrov's Introductory Interview - Tabletennis11.com |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 04/10/2014 at 7:45pm
| Bump- I've seen this in a couple of signatures. Any reviews? |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 04/10/2014 at 10:46pm
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I donned some rejected CPT America outfit, painted it green and red, then inside a secret Meth lab I dipped me gloved handz in a pot with some melted down used sheet from the Schildkrot 900. Now I am ready to borrow Pirelli Tires' marketing slogan of "Power is nothing without control."
What an intensly thoughtful marketing campaign !!!
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Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 2:06am
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I tested the Grip already on Monday and Tuesday today again another session to compare with evolution elp ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: caidtt
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 4:15am
any heads up on your testing so far?
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carmelomaf wrote:Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 6:37am
+1 ------------- Regiz°ᆗ Rosewood_Carbon/Huricane_King °FH:Vega_Japan/T64FX °BH:OmegaV_Euro/Rasant °°°° |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 7:44am
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Powergrip is 50 degrees. Yowzas. Looking forward to any info! ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 7:48am
So how much degrees is on Grip? edit: Grip has the same hardness as the regular Rasant @45° ------------- Regiz°ᆗ Rosewood_Carbon/Huricane_King °FH:Vega_Japan/T64FX °BH:OmegaV_Euro/Rasant °°°° |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 7:56am
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Grip is 45 deg. Edit - beat me by 1 second. Close... ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 7:58am
Likely to be the same generation as the Donic Bluefire M1 turbo and Joola Maxxx 500, which are also 50deg and also claiming more grip/spin.... they haven't produced the cool videos that Andro makes though.  ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 8:04am
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It's all in the marketing. Thinking about it, I haven't seen BH-Man and the dodgy green Andro Lycra fetish bloke in the same room. Coincidence? ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 5:18pm
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Guchi from WRM made a full review with the Andro Japan Representative (who is also a strong player) They have a full video review and session with the rubbers. I'll post it later. I'm definitely going to try some, making it the first tensor I try since the release of Baracuda. I only got to see the first 10 minutes, where they were comparing Regular Rasant Turbo to Power Grip
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Posted By: mayuki24
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 7:52pm
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Heres the link for the review: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aK7-5bwFW6w ------------- Nittaku Runlox (C-Pen) FH: Andro Rasant Powergrip BH: Andro Rasant Grip |
Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 9:03pm
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Grip really looks grippy but seems so sensitive to incoming spin oppose to the regular Rasant. I just got a Rasant PS and I guess I'll stick with it for now. ------------- Regiz°ᆗ Rosewood_Carbon/Huricane_King °FH:Vega_Japan/T64FX °BH:OmegaV_Euro/Rasant °°°° |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 04/12/2014 at 4:50am
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compared yesterday the rasant grip with elp on a 5 ply wood by TTManufaktur The rasant grip is much different than elp, slower, much lower trampoline effect, much more controll and lower throw angle regarding grip and spin I would say quite the same the feeling playing with rasant grip is more or less like playing with tenergy except for the throw angle, the topsheet is quite soft, softer than elp, not high trampoline effect and high controll really good rubber, not so much power like evolution but better controll I played the last two weeks with jp01 turbo, m1 turbo, 5q vip and found the rasant grip the best one the two donics turbo are in my opinion two hard and fast, and the 5q vip too soft ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 04/12/2014 at 5:19am
This was the marketing faire-leger part, the really thoughtful process is aber here:  |
Posted By: mayuki24
Date Posted: 04/12/2014 at 8:17am
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No doubt rasant powergrip is verry spinny. I think it would be more spinny than tenergy rubbers but question is how long would it last. As for durability and for the price it would be fair enough to buy it. Definitely a forehand rubber for me. ------------- Nittaku Runlox (C-Pen) FH: Andro Rasant Powergrip BH: Andro Rasant Grip |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 04/12/2014 at 9:44am
I would say that a commercial set up like this would be a lot more effective to grab attention and get people to identify with, build respect for, or simply desire the product, but what is my opinion worth?
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Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 04/22/2014 at 7:45am
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hey guys, any full reviews of these 2 rubbers yet? ------------- Regiz°ᆗ Rosewood_Carbon/Huricane_King °FH:Vega_Japan/T64FX °BH:OmegaV_Euro/Rasant °°°° |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 04/22/2014 at 4:08pm
| TTD daily just did T80 FX, and I think they'll do Rasant Grip next. |
Posted By: pepinho
Date Posted: 05/01/2014 at 1:53pm
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I've got a Grip and a Power Grip in max. The Grip is 70 g uncut and the Power Grip is 74 uncut. I need more time to break them up but these rubbers seem very spiny. ------------- MJ ZLC • D09C • D09C === http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74522&title=feedback-pepinho |
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 05/01/2014 at 5:07pm
would like to see your review and in particular in comparison to Rasant and Rasant Turbo.
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Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 05/02/2014 at 3:57am
so eager to hear your review soon.. may I suggest to please include what type of topsheet does these two rubbers resemble, is it more of a european rubber,ie: not too hard atop surface and not too sticky.. or does it resemble a tacky chinese rubber.
------------- Regiz°ᆗ Rosewood_Carbon/Huricane_King °FH:Vega_Japan/T64FX °BH:OmegaV_Euro/Rasant °°°° |
Posted By: neon
Date Posted: 05/13/2014 at 2:18pm
Rubber size pls , these grams are useless without size of rubbers. Thank you very much friends.
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Posted By: pepinho
Date Posted: 05/14/2014 at 12:18pm
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170 x 170 mm both rubbers! ------------- MJ ZLC • D09C • D09C === http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74522&title=feedback-pepinho |
Posted By: mswishe4
Date Posted: 05/14/2014 at 1:16pm
| Can anybody give us a review on these rubbers?! I would really like to hear about them! |
Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 05/14/2014 at 2:29pm
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YAY!! Excited to pick up today my new Rhyzm and Rasant PG at the Post Office.. both in max sponge!
 ------------- Regiz°ᆗ Rosewood_Carbon/Huricane_King °FH:Vega_Japan/T64FX °BH:OmegaV_Euro/Rasant °°°° |
Posted By: tuco
Date Posted: 05/14/2014 at 3:45pm
I don't understand Japanese; but it looks like the PowerGrip is super sensitive to incoming spin. ------------- The Dark Side is: "Quicker, easier, more seductive" - Yoda |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 05/15/2014 at 10:29am
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I know nothing of these rubbers, but the one guy seems to have such bad control with the rubber in that video, that it almost seems to be fabricated. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/15/2014 at 11:42am
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I've always been under the impression that sensitivity to spin is a great and wonderful thing. If it's sensitive to spin, it also means it can overcome other spin when you play active. Serve returns are better, counter spin is better. Sure it will be a hindrance if you are someone who just puts the racket on the ball, but if that's you there's no reason to use high tech rubber. I'd be willing to be that's not most of us though, I think it's a commonly perceived negative that is actually a positive. If you are active with your shots and serve returns at all it will be an awesome feature.
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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/15/2014 at 11:49am
I don't know how I missed this comment, but this sounds awesome! Thanks for the review :)
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Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 05/15/2014 at 10:45pm
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I just had a couple of hits with the PowerGrip late last night. I can't get used to it since I had it only for a real short time.. though surely it grips and the ball catapults from it, it's a bit kind of hard to control.. will try it with a robot tonight. ------------- Regiz°ᆗ Rosewood_Carbon/Huricane_King °FH:Vega_Japan/T64FX °BH:OmegaV_Euro/Rasant °°°° |
Posted By: Jerem
Date Posted: 05/29/2014 at 4:49am
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I am using red sheet of Andro Rasant Grip since middle of April. I was fan of Tenergy and H3 (still I am) but those rubbers are much harder to play hereby my game was not that good as with R.Grip. IMHO, this rubber has more gears than T05. It's slower near the net and a little bit less reactive to incoming spin. Grip gives ability to hit ball through every kind of spin. If the opponent plays with slow topspin you can just drive it through and it will land. It's also capable of putting a lot of spin. During rallies it's like T64 - you don't have to worry about spin as with T05 as I said and it's pretty fast in flat/driving strokes also controllable. Serving - there is a little less spin than T05(still enought spinny) but placing is the key. I can force my opponent to make a lot of errors during receiving them. Chopping - Speed: #Low gear - RG > T05 #Mid gear - RG=T05 #High gear - I am not sure yet but due easiness of play RG>T05. Spin: T05>RG - 5-7% Control: RG>T05 all the way I will post part of my practice match (due recording error) where you can clearly see the firepower of Rasant Grip. I am the guy in black. #I am gonna stick with this rubber for a little bit longer :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGR29GsfNVw&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow - Video |
Posted By: NBSR
Date Posted: 07/10/2014 at 1:32pm
| Any more reviews of the Grip and PowerGrip? |
Posted By: Crowsfeather
Date Posted: 07/10/2014 at 2:10pm
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Comparing to the rasant series. Hardness Grip < Turbo < P.grip P.grip have a mid-high throw not super-crazy T05 throw. Lifting spinny ball is easy. Good spin on serve. Grip is noticebly softer than P.grip a bit softer than Turbo. Both produce a very high output of spin. More spin than turbo in overall. Bit less speed that turbo but Speed:Spin ratio is nice. Top sheet is a bit thicker than turbo. ------------- I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud . |
Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 09/10/2014 at 7:34am
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My RG and RPsponge are on the way! OMG. I am so excited. Judged by these reviews I am gonna be a real topspin hero soon :-D Anyway, which blade would suit these rubbers? Rasant Grip 1.7 on FH Rasant Powersponge 1.9 on BH I have these blades on stock: Stiga Allround Wood NCT Donic Epox Control BTY Primorac Hayabusa ZXi Xiom Stradivarius Tibhar Texo C7 Tibhar Texo Off Joola Legend All+ Yasaka 3D Stiga Offensive CR The blades in bold letters are my favoured forerunners in this case but I am expecting for your kind help too. As for me I am only an old (52) but enthusiastic basement player who is eager to play in the regional third division a few years later :-/ Thin rubbers have been chosen as you can see because I want moderate speed with decent spin and great control. I tend to attack if it is possible I'd say play allround-offensive game and get rid of constan pushes as much as possible. Thanx for your attention. ------------- igszoctan Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 09/10/2014 at 8:28am
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Choose one with the biggest head size to cut the rubbers. If you wish to change the blade, rubbers will be big enough to cover the whole blade head surface. This way you'll avoid rubber patches on your blade. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 09/10/2014 at 10:15am
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Thank You Ray :-) That is the safe way. ------------- igszoctan Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
Posted By: regiz.rugenz
Date Posted: 09/11/2014 at 3:54am
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igszoctan, I had Rasant, RPG, and RPS.. among all these series, I could say RPG is the easiest to loop with.. so easy you just swing your stroke and it will land. I've always landed 90% of my opening loops, the 10% is just because I missed the ball on my swing.. and the 90% of those I've landed, 75% were unblockable, too fast that my opponents would just stair at it. Both Rasant and RPG shines on super fast blades.. I love them for they were perfect on my Level 91, an OFF+ blade, but I have to settle to a much lighter weight rubbers due to my wrist. But with sponges at 1.7 and 1.9, you would probably wanna go for the all-round blades, the fast blades might make them way too hard to hit with. I never liked RPS.. I bought it by accident anyway. ------------- Regiz°ᆗ Rosewood_Carbon/Huricane_King °FH:Vega_Japan/T64FX °BH:OmegaV_Euro/Rasant °°°° |
Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 09/11/2014 at 4:19am
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Thank You regiz, That was really helpful. Well, as a first step, I am inclined to put them on my C7. A fast blade it is though but flexible enough I reckon and the thickness may compensate its speed or tame it a bit. In case the setup turns out to be too hard as you presume I'll step back to SO CR. ------------- igszoctan Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 09/11/2014 at 4:48am
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Hi ,any review about rasant GRIP. Is it faster or spinnier compared to normal rasant. A few words about control will be also appreciated. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: mayuki24
Date Posted: 09/11/2014 at 6:31am
Topsheet of Rasant Grip is indeed more grippier than the normal rasant. Control is good, for me Rasant Powergrip and Rasant Grip had the same topsheet but differs in sponge hardness. I could say normal rasant is a different rubber in my experience. Rasant Grip is indeed a good rubber for backhand, Im using it for my rpb. Control, speed and sponge hardness is balanced after all. It doesn't lack on speed. *Comments are based on my experience. Had tried all the Rasant series though. ------------- Nittaku Runlox (C-Pen) FH: Andro Rasant Powergrip BH: Andro Rasant Grip |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 09/11/2014 at 7:38am
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So which rasant than you suggest me ,have the overall hardness and arc as a 05 . I am asking cause i am using 05 as a FH and Baracuda as BH rubber. do you think any rasant overwhelming tenergy 05 in spin department? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: mayuki24
Date Posted: 09/11/2014 at 8:26am
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Rasant Powergrip for forehand and Rasant Grip for backhand. Give that combo a try as I can play with it better. For money and quality of playing characteristics and durability it wins over tenergy series any day. As for spin in Rasant Powergrip compared to Tenergy 05, Rasant Powergrip felt a tad spinnier than Tenergy 05 for me personally as the topsheet is really grippy and bites the ball more. *take note Rasant Powergrip and Tenergy 05 doesnt have identical sponges, they felt really different but really close on speed. ------------- Nittaku Runlox (C-Pen) FH: Andro Rasant Powergrip BH: Andro Rasant Grip |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 09/11/2014 at 8:48am
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Rasant grip has an excellent topsheet. Very similar hardness to T05 but a bit less spiny. Great rubber. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 09/13/2014 at 9:18am
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Rasant Power Grip video review: ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/27/2014 at 9:44pm
Grip 1.7mm is 62g. Very spinny on loops but I haven't tried counterlooping yet. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/28/2014 at 12:56am
Heavily boosted too.... ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Jerem
Date Posted: 09/28/2014 at 8:36am
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?Powergrip has less spin in slow/medium strokes than Rasant Grip. Grip is spinier at all than Powergrip in : Slow Topspin, Serves, Backhand Topspin. With grip it's also harder to recieve serves because topsheet is DIFFERENT and it more grippy than powergrip. Powergrip excels in fast topspin (if u swing fast spin is better than grip one) it's also much easier to smash and counter topspin with. Flatter trajectory than Grip. If you want spin+control= Grip if u want power= Powergrip (really). Powergrip require quite much better technique and physical force to play well with. Summarizing: Grip - Spinner at all, slower, tad more control, better feeling due sponge hardness. It works with all kind of blades. Powergrip - One of best forehand rubbers I've ever had, a bit of H3(easier spinning) mixed with T64(easier smashes) and T05(easier counters). Very good rubber for those who have power in their hands. I would not recommend it for any kind of underspin play - it's a shame because it's the most uncontrollable thing in this rubber. You should always play a topspin/drive/smash. Forget about pushes. IMHO : New Rasants shink about 1-2mm on edges. Anyway I am going back to Tenergy it's just more 'straight'.
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Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 10/01/2014 at 6:57am
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I have been playing Rasant Grip 1.7 on FH Rasant Powersponge 1.9 on BH (Stiga Allround wood nct) for two weeks and getting used to them. Well, these rubbers are great like other modern rubbers but nothing special about them. Oh yes, I am convinced it is mainly my shortcoming. No-free-lunch :-) Nice short-play, great loops (a bit weak far-from-the-table), mid-low-throw. I reckon, I will try them on my Stradivarius so as to awake their hidden qualities and gain more power and furious spin. ------------- igszoctan Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 10/01/2014 at 7:07am
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Hi Igszoctan, Would you compare Rasant grip with Donic Baracuda. So far no rubber is superior in spin department compared to Baracuda ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 10/01/2014 at 7:55am
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Hi Bro, Terribly sorry but I can't do that 'cause it's been ages since I last tried Baracuda. As far as I remember it was mid-hard, high throw and quite spinny but I had difficulties in pushing. ------------- igszoctan Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
Posted By: pepinho
Date Posted: 10/01/2014 at 8:25am
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The Rasant Grip is superior in spin than Baracuda but it has much lower throw! I used Baracuda on FH and now use Grip on BH. I use JP01 on FH now. I did not like the low throw of PowerGrip on FH and left it out. But the Grip is pure beast in spin. If it had more higher throw I'd put it on FH. ------------- MJ ZLC • D09C • D09C === http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74522&title=feedback-pepinho |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 10/01/2014 at 8:38am
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Would you share the weight of Rasant grip cut to 150x157 ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: martian22
Date Posted: 11/07/2014 at 10:27am
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Ordered 2 sheets from TTNPP, should be here by the end of next week ------------- Timo Boll ZLF MXP |
Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 11/09/2014 at 12:42pm
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RG on fh of my Stiga AW WRB is great! Gargantuan grip as it is expected and thx to the low throw more fh topspins land on the other side. Furthermore, now to my big surprise I am able to carry out decent and sharp fh pushes at last ;-) ------------- igszoctan Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 11/09/2014 at 2:27pm
Is it really that much better than TZU?
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Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 11/09/2014 at 2:56pm
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You mean grip, don 't you? Well, I'd say it has the same grip as TZU or a bit more (?) Both TZU and RG are my all time favourite fh fubbers but I presume, I will stick to RG because of its lower through and sharp pushes. ------------- igszoctan Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
Posted By: joshuadn11
Date Posted: 04/22/2015 at 7:20pm
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For anyone uses/used grip and power grip... hows the durability after all ? i feel like there's lot of marketing on Andro and afraid to buy them because i fear they might die within a month after first play.... any thoughts? im planning on putting Grip as my FH on my Barwell Fleet ------------- Joshie de GoIden |
Posted By: lineup32
Date Posted: 04/23/2015 at 12:27am
| I have used Grip and have high regard for the rubber it does what all the other top end ESN rubbers do these days and last depending on usage probably a good 100 hours. I am sure you will enjoy it, but I have not played with the power grip not sure what the difference is, I also like the MXP-P. |
Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 04/23/2015 at 12:45am
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tried both...PG is grippier faster and spinnier...I LUV it...RG is also great but on my blade PG works better. ------------- igszoctan Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 04/23/2015 at 10:06am
| had the RG on my BF (FH), no complaints, but I think it looks a bit worn after 2 to 3 months but still playable |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 05/08/2015 at 1:28pm
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how the the PG compared to the XIOM Omega V series? like Asia? ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: spin_attack
Date Posted: 05/24/2015 at 7:14pm
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I'm very tempted since the rubbers are grippy and fast. But I was disappointed when I read the same thing about the T80fx and T05fx., I found them fast but not that grippy. Spin is good but totally depends on your technique(if you are good, you can generate a lot of spin). But I'm finding the rubbers fast and don't want to make the same mistake, so confused whether I should get them in 2.1 or 1.9 of Ando PG. I hope getting them in 1.9 doesn't reduce the properties of the rubber that it is advertised for. I have never played with 1.9 rubber before, always 2.1 or max. Any suggestions? ------------- BTY PK, T05fx, T80fx |
Posted By: spin_attack
Date Posted: 05/25/2015 at 2:05am
Hi Ray, it's always a treat to watch these guys play. But are they using the 1.9 or 2.1 sponge ? Most of their videos it seems as if they use 1.9 sponge on the rubbers that they test, but here it seems like they are using the thicker sponge to test. Just curious. Ps: this is off topic, but there was another site where they would show these japs cutting and gluing fresh sheets on blades, somehow I can't seem to find those....if you know what I'm talking about, send me the link or the site. Cheers. ------------- BTY PK, T05fx, T80fx |
Posted By: ThePongProfessor
Date Posted: 05/25/2015 at 2:42am
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The durability of the RG is outstanding. Hands down the most durable rubber that I have played with. I have played tournaments with sheets that had 60+ hours on them. For practice, I started to note a decline in the grip and spin after ~150 h. And, all the edges are still intact. High praise. I expect PG to be equally durable.
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Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 07/04/2015 at 3:50pm
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My initial feedback on the PG on my Xiom VP blade after 4 plays 8 hours: This rubber is 50%+ harder and faster than OVAsia, less forgiving, shorter dwell time. Really fast, the ball just contacts the rubber and flies back out. I didnt feel the catapult effect on it that I did on the OVA using WSC. I am not able to control it, yet. Not recommended for amateurs. ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 09/12/2015 at 2:30pm
Wow that's amazing - but since the rubber comes heavily factory-boosted, wouldn't the speed decline quicker than you specified? ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: ThePongProfessor
Date Posted: 09/12/2015 at 4:28pm
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Does it come heavily boosted ? I've heard people state that, but I can't smell anything funny/fishy when putting on a new sheet. I've mostly noted a dip in spin for heavily used rubbers. To me, speed remains fairly constant but that's just my opinion...user "slevin" may be able to provide additional insight. ------------- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThePongProfessor http://mytabletennis.net/forum/feedback-thepongprofessor_topic69419.html" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 09/12/2015 at 4:46pm
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Yes, it comes boosted and also takes on booster well. Great durability. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 09/12/2015 at 10:23pm
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I have bought a few top rubbers from different brands about the same time last year and the Rasant pair is simply the most violent among the pack when new. It does drop in performance gradually after a while (more than a month I would say) but will remain pretty constant after. The best part is that they are durable without the usual trouble relating to tensors. BF does shrink on blade after a short period of time with significant top sheet smudges. My new Astro already got crumble edges which I have not play that much. With the level of performance and durability the Rasant pair is a pleasant surprise. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 09/12/2015 at 11:03pm
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PG is pretty good too, been using is for 80 days averaging 4 hours a week. Just not my favorite. ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 1:46am
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Any Rasant Grip players to give an update on the longterm experience? Is it really low throw? For eg. how is the throw angle compared to EL-P or Omega V Eur/Pro? ------------- Innerforce ALC, Glayzer / Rozena |
Posted By: ThePongProfessor
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 10:13am
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I wouldn't call RG a 'really low throw' rubber. It is lower than T05, but higher than the Calibra's. Medium? Very easy rubber to play with and excellent durability. In my opinion, it is one of the 'safest' rubbers to play with unless you are a pro, meaning that almost everybody can play well with it. I will give MX-P a chance in the coming months, but may very well return to RG at some point.... ------------- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThePongProfessor http://mytabletennis.net/forum/feedback-thepongprofessor_topic69419.html" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: tabletennisx32
Date Posted: 12/02/2015 at 2:54am
| Can someone please compare this with Rakza X and Xiom Omega V Tour? |
Posted By: heplayslikearobot
Date Posted: 12/02/2015 at 5:10am
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I've had my RG for about 6 months, still has crazy spin and everything, just like new. I play 10-15 hours on average per week (give or take some hours). ------------- Sent from my iPhone |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 12/20/2016 at 3:47am
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I have played rasant normal and rasant turbo. turbo has medium throw, like bluefire JP and evolution -S. Lower than bluefire M and evolution -P, t05. Rasant normal has even lower throw. Throw: coppa < acuda S/P < rasant normal <= bluefire JP = tibhar -S = rasant turbo < tibhar -p = t05 < bluefire M < omega V pro That said, once you adjust your stroke for the lower throw, rasant turbo is an outstanding rubber. Probably the best I've tried. 1) It is the only hard rubber I've tried that is also fast and grippy (m1 is slow, Mxp is very slow, omerga V are very very slow. m1 turbo is slow. Only s1 is fast but not grippy. I haven't tried joola. POssibly t80 is similar to rasant turbo). 2) it's the only hard rubber I've tried that flips well. (even if you brush softly, you can feel the ball sink in the topsheet, unlike e.g. m1. and it lifts a lot when you brush the flip) 3) even if the throw is not high on counter and normal loop, it is high when brushing a lot (in other words, it is very grippy, like evolution -S or bluefire M, much more than evo -P ) my question is: does rasant grip have higher throw than rasant turbo / rasant normal?
------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 12/20/2016 at 4:00am
recall from memory: rakza X is very similar to rasant turbo, but slower. Omega V: I've only tried PRO, not tour. Pro is a lot slower than rasant turbo, and a lot higher throw. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: 4ugustu
Date Posted: 12/20/2016 at 9:43am
| Seguso, what's the weight of the rasant turbo? |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 12/20/2016 at 9:49am
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I can't tell you right now. the rubbers are glued :) However it feels like elp or m1. in that range. maybe a bit lighter. definitely heavier than coppa.
------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 12/21/2016 at 6:05am
if it can help, my clipper cr is 94 gr, and now, with two rasant turbo max, it is 198 gr. this suggests each rasant turbo, cut, is 52 gr. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |