Donic World Champion 89 Blades 2014
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Topic: Donic World Champion 89 Blades 2014
Posted By: asimriz
Subject: Donic World Champion 89 Blades 2014
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 5:34am
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Has anyone tried out any of these blades ? They're more expensive than Donic blades usually r which means they're probably higher quality than usual, AND Donic has incorporated their version of Zylon carbon in the mix which I can't wait to try out. Being a longtime Donic user, ME WANTS !!! Does anyone have any experience w these blades ? I'm interested in the Persson OFF+ version of these blades. ------------- Donic Ovtcharov Carbospeed (FL) FH: Tibhar Evolution MX-P (max) BH: Nittaku Fastarc S-1 (max) Donic Epox Powercarbon (FL) FH: Andro Rasant Turbo (max) BH: Nittaku Fastarc C-1 (max) |
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 5:42am
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Not out yet. They look good though - have to see what that Italian spruce is like. These are made in Germany, which is interesting in and of itself. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 6:19am
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looks to me they are made by soulspin :) ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 7:59am
Could be. Hope so - it's a reasonable price point for a Soulspin blade, good materials too. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
t64t64t64 wrote:Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 8:58am
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They do not look good to me. Cocktail blades as Nexy Arirang, Inca. Spruce outer. Rodizio restaurant. -------------  EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh);  InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 9:03am
ejm - Professional Bubble Burster. Available for parties, clean driving license. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 9:45am
I want to think that I somehow understand what this cool commentary means... but I'm completely clueless.
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Posted By: sonykurniawan
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 9:59am
+1clueless |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 12:31pm
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Sorry to desilutionate people. It is just my view. Not so important to begin paying me much attention. Giving some clues... You know when going to a rodizio. They offer a lot of different (good) meats. But at the end one feels a mixture in the stomach that one begins thinking 'how good it is just to eat one tournedo, or a good file instead. The hinoki or the spruce carbon kiri balsa worked well in that sc, gergely, thick powerful composite blades. Same building thinner blades adding or not adding other layers do not offer advantage to the well known limba/koto outer composites. On the contrary. The blade will tend to lose linear performance and directional precision. What i do not know is if this donic rodizio is better than the nexy rodizio restaurant. Maybe bhman or argo or andy may try and tell. ------------- EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: asimriz
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 2:05pm
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Thanks a lot guys ! Hmmmm, but yeah I hope someone can play with it & give some feedback. ------------- Donic Ovtcharov Carbospeed (FL) FH: Tibhar Evolution MX-P (max) BH: Nittaku Fastarc S-1 (max) Donic Epox Powercarbon (FL) FH: Andro Rasant Turbo (max) BH: Nittaku Fastarc C-1 (max) |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 3:02pm
Get out of here - we love you ejm!!!!  There is a question mark over a spruce outer for me too, but it just makes me curious. Maybe there's something special about the Italian spruce? Maybe it rides a Vespa and steals your opponents' wives? They do mention that a lot of different treatments are used. Pressure, drying etc. Could end up being interesting. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 3:27pm
The Joola Rossi Emotion is also a not-too-thick hinoki-outer blade. Perhaps the users of that blade can echo their opinions on directionality / linearity here. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 04/11/2014 at 6:47pm
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slevin have you seen many good players playing with the joola rossi emotion?. But there are pros playing with korbel. For sure there will be people playing well with those world ch 89 blades. And a lot of people will play better with a cheap premade rather than any well known blade. Some (fatt, andy...) played the rossi but they change the blade as fast as the weather changes. And keep on searching and trying. ------------- EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/12/2014 at 4:43pm
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You can't use me as a cherry-picked example, ejm. I can't speak for fatt, but I change blades a lot. Probably some form of deep seated psychological issue there somewhere. But I've tried and discarded a ton of blades, including most of your favourites. So my moving on doesn't say anything about the quality of the Rossi Emotion, for example. And who knows how close these donic blades will be to the ones you mention? How much do we really know about the materials and processes used in these blades? I appreciate that ejm's estimation will be better than mine though. He's very rarely wrong... ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: asimriz
Date Posted: 05/04/2014 at 10:37am
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Anyone used any of these blades yet ? ------------- Donic Ovtcharov Carbospeed (FL) FH: Tibhar Evolution MX-P (max) BH: Nittaku Fastarc S-1 (max) Donic Epox Powercarbon (FL) FH: Andro Rasant Turbo (max) BH: Nittaku Fastarc C-1 (max) |
Posted By: rusttt
Date Posted: 05/04/2014 at 11:47am
| AFAIK no one has them in stock yet. I'm planning to try a couple of them when tt11 gets them in stock. They kinda look like the Basaltec with Zylon instead of Basalt fibers so I'm thinking they'll be a little faster which I would prefer. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 6:10am
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My Appelgren has arrived this morning. FL handle, 78g. The lenses in the handle stick out a bit. It's not really noticeable for my small hands, but it might annoy some. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 6:16am
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I got mine Waldner ST handle weight 90 grams. Handle is pretty big if you compare it with ZLC and Boll ST. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 6:56am
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Yeah, chunky handle and quite a long head size. Feels generally well-made. I'm not sure about this spruce outer though. League match tonight. Dare I give this a bash? ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 7:10am
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I dont know about yours,but on waldner carbon is next to the core,so its build like Innerforce Series. I am not quite sure but JRE i think follow the same line :) ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 7:17am
Yeah, JRE has carbon next to the core. The Appelgren does not though. It's like this: Spruce - Carbonfleecezylonwhatever - Ayous - Kiri (core) I went for the Appelgren because it has the thinnest spruce outer of the three. I've slapped JP-01 and Ventus Spin on. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: kevo
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 12:23pm
Smitty, you are hilarious!
 And might I add: Maybe it appears an appetising treat to Urugyuans? (sic) |
Posted By: Carryboy
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 1:00pm
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I am really looking forward to hearing the reviews!! Andy what is the price on these blades?? ------------- Spin Master Carbo Power (Stefan Elsner Custom) Donic Acuda S1 Max Donic Acuda P1 Blue Max |
Posted By: rusttt
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 2:55pm
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I was planning to purchase the series, but after trying the Nittaku Basaltec with its spruce outer plies and finding it a bit softer than I prefer, I decided to wait and see if any other koto users like the feel. It's possible my problem was with the basalt fabric and not the spruce, but I doubt it. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 3:49pm
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today i gave a blade to 2150+ ,he bad amazing shot and he said that this blade is with nice balance and perfect trajektory. Tommorow is my turn ;) ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 6:14pm
Must keep Suarez away from this blade. The outer ply is soft, so the teeth marks would definitely cause lasting damage. So, league match tonight! The summer league is more of a friendly affair over here - players use it to stay as sharp as possible. I'd won my first two matches, the team was 7-0 up, my 3rd match was against a player I don't usually struggle against. So I used the Appelgren. I won, but it was a struggle. As you might expect with an equipment change 2/3 of the way through a fixture. The speed is definitely ALL+ to OFF-, which was a pleasant surprise. I thought that was just Donic's classification in the range, and I'd expected a composite like this to be faster. Sweet spot is big. It drops off right at the outside edge, and you get a bit of vibration there, but it's quite impressive nonetheless. There is a bit of flex. Looping is very, very easy. The relatively low speed makes it a pretty safe looping blade - you get a lot of latitude with your stroke. Spin seems very high - stupidly easy to load the ball up. The short game is good in terms of results, but the feel is hollow and a bit washed out. My blade is 78g, which is probably a factor, but the spruce outer could be playing a part too. As people have predicted, it's not the best for direct, punchy play. Ventus Spin isn't a good fit on the BH for me on this blade - need a harder sponge. JP-01 worked really well on the FH side, and I could do pretty much anything with it. If I had to compare it to something, I'd probably pick the Nexy Lissom. Both blades have the ability to just keep looping, over and over, and the ball lands comfortably. The Appelgren has fewer vibrations, is less bouncy, bigger sweet spot, is softer, and has that hollow feel, so it's not a direct comparison. I'm only really talking about what it does at the table. This is only after one match, of course. Very early days. It is however obviously a nice blade. I'm not sure there's a lot of competition in the ALL+ composite looping category, so it has that in its favour. I'm not yet convinced about how it behaves on hitting, smashing, etc. It might lack power. I need to take the Ventus off, and spend more time playing against a variety of opponents.
Retail is 99 euro. I got mine from Tremendous Turbo Tibi for less than that. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 06/26/2014 at 5:02am
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I am a bit skeptical but yet curious. I own blades with limba - spruce - ayous - spruce - limba. Compared with limba - limba - ayous - limba - limba composition, the spruce type has sharper feel and feel "harder". So when they use spruce as top layer, I expected sharp and hard feel. But the review here mentioned that it had soft feel. It is interesting. Probably spruce isn't a hard wood at all. ------------- Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/26/2014 at 5:24am
I've always found limba-spruce to be bouncier than limba-limba. I put that down to the springiness of spruce, rather than its hardness. Spruce has a janka of between 400-500, which is very similar to limba which is 490. Janka doesn't tell you everything though. Plies can have different properties when used as a medial behind something else, and Donic say that the spruce used in these blades has been treated in some way. I expected it to have a soft, bouncy feel, along the lines of hinoki. It's close, but the Appelgren does feel a touch sharper and less bouncy than other (thick) hinoki outer blades, but with a less solid feel. This is a spruce-fibre-ayous construction - I'm not sure what to compare it against really. The Waldner version might be interesting in telling us more about how spruce is as an outer: Spruce - Spruce - Fibre - Kiri ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 06/26/2014 at 6:22am
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Same with Waldner blade, i expexted to be seriously fast,but in end in off- category. Today i will do some drills ,because from yesterday test(5 minutes) i have not feel the carbon in it. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/26/2014 at 6:58am
The carbon is quite deep on the Waldner. Perhaps the Persson is what you need! ;-) ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 06/26/2014 at 7:03am
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actually i was going to order appelgreen ST,but Tibi sold it out quickly,i now use kong linhui special and and was looking for something similar :) anyway i will post something after today session. I will test Waldner with m2 2.0 and m2 1.8-just from bare hit i can tell that 1.8 feel way better than 2.0 :) ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 4:10am
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As i promise after drilling session,i found that my thoughts aboud this blades are kind of wrong. This blade has 2 souls. Slow on touchy shots,and FAST ,Very FAST,ULTRA FAST till infinity. on slow shots actually it is kind of woody.but when you are in position and prepared to kill the ball it is FAST. However maybe because of the rubbers i cannot feel the kick . In the past 6 months i have been using baracuda,now i decide to give m2 a try. AND After baracuda i feel every rubber is kind of dead in spin department :) Sweet spot is on PAR with ALC and ZLC Blade,but less than a SZLC. Tonight i will play friendly mathhes vs a guy which i overwhelm mostly so i will share my thoughs later on. Handle is one of the best things in this blade-maybe the best ST handle i ever tried. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 10:02am
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Can someone post some pics of this blade please? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27730&title=feedback-tsanyc - My Feedback 
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 3:08pm
Check out the last 6 pics in this folder: https://picasaweb.google.com/108579723250927437374/General#" rel="nofollow - https://picasaweb.google.com/108579723250927437374/General# ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 06/28/2014 at 1:42pm
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Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 06/28/2014 at 1:52pm
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Ok few words, This blade is really off blade,it is quite thick so it lack some control if you compared it with more flexible blades . Sweet spot-Everywhere is a sweet spot,no matter how you hit the ball you always got power and spin. Bigger than SZLC my opinion. Handle -Unique ,a bit large so even with heavy rubbers blade is solid. mid or close or far away never lack power,but lack control or perpahs i am used to much thinner blade type. really well built ,and compare to price/performance ratio-much better than many overpriced blades. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: Carryboy
Date Posted: 06/28/2014 at 3:57pm
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t64, really nice looking blade, how thick is it?? ------------- Spin Master Carbo Power (Stefan Elsner Custom) Donic Acuda S1 Max Donic Acuda P1 Blue Max |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 06/29/2014 at 5:53am
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Hello it is 6.9mm. @andy do you experience the same as me -super large sweet spot?i really feel bigger sweet spot than JK SZLC. Is anynobody tried Persson version? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/29/2014 at 9:40am
Yes, abnormally large. I was quite shocked when bouncing a ball on the bare blade. Considering the construction, it's an achievement. The Appelgren feels ALL+/OFF- to me for speed. Pair that with the sweet spot and you get a great sense of control when using it. Very impressive. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: Believer
Date Posted: 06/30/2014 at 7:47am
| I am interested in the persson version too. Any review is greatly appreciated! |
Posted By: Bran
Date Posted: 09/07/2014 at 10:16am
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Had a quick knock with the Persson using a friend's blade. The feeling is very nice and soft, with no vibrations. Speed is quite high, very powerful and not so easy to control, coming from a viscaria. It was also quite heavy, which didn't help. I think it would get better with a bit of practice, and could feel it should be controllable on short and passive game. I liked it, just too fast for me. Very nice blade. |
Posted By: Bran
Date Posted: 09/07/2014 at 10:24am
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Forgot to mention: JP01 Turbo max on both sides. Didn't help with the weight. I thought the outer layer was hinoki, until I read about the composition, it really looks like it. The sweetspot was very large. Made me curious about the Waldner, though the carbon around centre ply means the feel should be quite different, with a pronounced two-gear effect. |
Posted By: roulage
Date Posted: 10/26/2014 at 3:09pm
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Persson 89 - really quick and dynamic. Tested with Acuda S2, Genius sound, Victas V1, Acuda S1, Bluefire M2, Bluefire M3 . The result is that this blade has the best performance with hard sponge rubbers. The softer sponge is-the more problems appears (strong catapult kicking, very low throw, very poor spin abilities, low control). I recommend hard rubbers with 47° min. or more. ------------- Photino+Andro Plaxon |
Posted By: MiBen
Date Posted: 01/19/2015 at 11:37am
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He guys, thanks ------------- For those who know..AVX:) |
Posted By: right2niru
Date Posted: 01/21/2015 at 12:18am
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Any reviews on Appelgren version ? ------------- ZJK SZLC |5Q+ |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/30/2015 at 4:50pm
Does Aruna Quadri classify as a good player? ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/30/2015 at 4:53pm
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So, I tested a '89 Waldner (89g, 6.91mm) last night with T05 and Rakza X on it. Highlights: fantastic feel and oodles of power - a Soulspin blade for 1/2 of typical Soulspin price! http://www.donic.de/index.php?screen=dstore.item.view&TreeNodeID=26379&sid=1" rel="nofollow - http://www.donic.de/index.php?screen=dstore.item.view&TreeNodeID=26379&sid=1 Composition: Spruce (1 mm) - Spruce (0.8 mm) - ZLC - Kiri (3 mm) - ZLC - Spruce (0.8 mm)- Spruce (1 mm). Earlier, I thought that it is basically the same construction like the Soulspin Basalt 6 / Nittaku Basaltec Inner except for the thickness & composite layer. I was wrong - those blades have Ayous as their 2nd layer. Look: Looks like a typical high quality Soulspin blade (except with a more conventional handle) Feel: A fantastically great, soft & woody feel with clear feedback. It feels softer than the Viscaria. Regarding feedback, it is of a typical Hinoki variety (so you'll love it if you like JRE or other Hinoki-outer blades) Speed: This blade feels woody in the low gears. In the high gears, it is very powerful (in between a TB-ALC / Viscaria and a MJ / TB-ZLC but closer to the latter). I'd classify it as OFF/OFF+. It feels like it has the 'catch' of catapaulty all-wood blades rather than the pingy bounce of a ZLC blade. Flex: Due to it's thickness (almost 7mm), it is quite stiff (at least as stiff as a Viscaria) Throw / Spin: It exhibits a higher throw than the Viscaria and is very spinny Rubber compatibility: I'd say 45 degrees and higher. Softer would feel mushy.
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Posted By: Carryboy
Date Posted: 01/30/2015 at 5:45pm
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slevin, interesting short review!! I have been thinking of giving it a try. How is the control in the short game and how is the blocking?? ------------- Spin Master Carbo Power (Stefan Elsner Custom) Donic Acuda S1 Max Donic Acuda P1 Blue Max |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 01/30/2015 at 6:18pm
I've only tried it out against a robot unfortunately. It seemed bouncier than the JRE in the short game but less than my MJ-SZLC. Blocking seemed good and linear. The main highlights were the feel and power reserve (both big improvements over a Viscaria). Two important pointers if you do buy this blade:
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Posted By: ashishsharmaait
Date Posted: 01/30/2015 at 6:31pm
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Now only if someone can review the Vega Tour blade...I will be able to make up my mind. |
Posted By: rusttt
Date Posted: 01/31/2015 at 9:10am
I'll glue my tour and at least one of the Donic '89 blades (probably the Waldner) up this weekend. Should be able to offer impressions next week. ------------- my http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68681&title=feedback-rusttt" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: rusttt
Date Posted: 01/31/2015 at 10:36am
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Thanks for the inspiration Ashish. Glued the Waldner and Vega Tour. Waldner has Rhyzm and Airoc M and Tour has Rhyzm and P7. Just hitting solo, it feels like the Tour has more vibration, is a little slower and has a little more bite on the ball, but I'll give another update after using them in matches. ------------- my http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68681&title=feedback-rusttt" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: rusttt
Date Posted: 02/04/2015 at 4:38pm
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Here are my thoughts on Vega Tour vs Waldner 89. These are quite different blades. The VT is definitely another step softer, a little slower and 5-10g lighter on the VP->VE->VT spectrum. There is a lot of vibration on edge hits and a pretty distinct drop in speed towards the edge. My example is only 77g which is much lighter than I usually play with so comparing to the 93g and significantly thicker W89 is really apples->oranges. Comparing to its Vega brothers, the VT is my least favorite. It does offer nice looping and control is decent, I just think the feel is mushier and the sweet spot is the smallest of the three. If you love explosive power, get the VP. If you like linear response and good speed then the VE is your best option. VT might appeal to Hinoki lovers, I don't know, this is my only Hinoki blade so I may not be the target audience. The W89 on the other hand is stiffer and faster and has a bigger sweet spot. I would compare this blade much more to the Basaltec series since the construction is similar apart from ZLC replacing Basalt fabric. I've said in previous review comments that I always get good results with the Basaltec but stopped using it because of the muted feel. The W89 feels nice and crisp, and offers both powerful smashes and nice loops. Blocking is easy because of the good speed and huge sweet spot. All my shots worked just like I'm used to with the VE with perhaps some added zip when flat hitting or smashing. Anyway, Ashish, easy call for me, W89 over VT. ------------- my http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68681&title=feedback-rusttt" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: ashishsharmaait
Date Posted: 02/04/2015 at 6:42pm
| Thanks....I guess there's no point going for either of these blades over a VE then. |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 01/24/2016 at 7:26pm
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Bump. Any more information on these blades? ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 03/05/2016 at 12:13pm
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bump ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 03/08/2016 at 6:28pm
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OP, what is your impression on the CarboSpeed with MX-P fh? have you tried Axelo with MX-P? ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 03/09/2016 at 10:01am
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not really fatt, the good blocker/chopper i play with has the MX-P|Axelo|O5P setup. Identical in rubber except the blade. Mine is Vega Pro. I love my VP in control and kicks. When he blocks my close/mid table topspin, the block is very fast. He tried my VP, which in my opinion isnt a good block blade due to thinness of 5.8mm. it is just not as quick. When I compared his Axelo MX-P setup vs my VP MX-P setup the fh topspin speed is higher but the control is less due to dwell time is less. which makes total sense. ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: player87
Date Posted: 10/05/2016 at 2:13pm
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any feedbacks on Waldner off and Appelgren all+ ? what is the balance of them? head heaviness? |
Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 12/26/2016 at 10:26am
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Any particular rubbers that will fit these blades well? These blades look and feel so good, but it seems that no one really uses it for a long time. ------------- /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65174&title=feedback-for-kindof99" rel="nofollow - My Feedback | /forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=77924" rel="nofollow - Sale |
Posted By: Wolf
Date Posted: 12/26/2016 at 12:17pm
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My friend recently played Jun Mizutani tenergy 64 . Then he bought the Waldner 89 ,but with a Tenergy he didn't like it . He sat down on the Joola Rhyzm P and much praises . Monster spin ! Necessary but use a maximum for the tires . Not too long ago got even Persson 89 and his word is that they are really very good knives with a large dose of forgiveness ,better than Jun Mizutani . It's just need to pair it with the right rubber . Personally, we played with this blade a few times , last month very often . Better works with the rubber of the maximum thickness . Blue Fire M1 , Xiom Omega III Euro , Rhyzm P if you put emphasis on spin . On the contrary, MXP 2.0 , Xiom Omega III 2.0 were incredibly fast , like a slingshot . The great art of keeping the ball on the table . For a large tolerance, forgiveness , great blocks and excellent control in the game, I found the Waldner 89 with Coppa X1 TP max on the front side and Coppa X1 TP 1.8 on the back side . ------------- Donic Crest Off FH-Donic Acuda S2 Max BH-Tibhar ELP 1.9 Donic Crest AR+ FH-Joola Maxxxp 2.0 BH-Joola Rhyzm Tech 2.0 |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 12/26/2016 at 11:14pm
They are quite popular here, and quite a few people are using them. They do work best (IMO) with tensioned-type rubbers...Acuda (s2) & bluefire (m2/jp02) the more popular. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 01/26/2017 at 11:20pm
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I'm currently using donic ovtcharov carbospeed with baracuda FH and spinlord keiler BH. I'm happy with it and I have absolutely zero issue with it being too powerful as I find faster blades easier to control than slow ones (weird, I know). But I miss woody feel in it, and a tiny amount of flex won't be a bad something. So, will persson world champion 89 be a good choice? Also, I loved JRE with MX-P, one of my old setups. Which one in waldner and persson wc89 is closest to JRE? ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: Uri
Date Posted: 03/31/2017 at 10:21am
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Hi Guys, I am thinking of buying the Waldner 89, with EL-S 2.1 on the forehand, and grass D.Tesc 1.6 on the backhand. what do you think about the combination? I play an allround/offensive game having a pimple out rubber on the backhand. I play with Tibhar force pro with Tibhar EL-S 2.1 on the forehand and dr.Neubauer Aggressor 1.5 on the backhand(medium pips). |