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Topic: The Official Viscaria Club

Posted By: Pondus
Subject: The Official Viscaria Club
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 4:27pm

Given the undeniable popularity of the Butterfly Viscaria blade, I thought it would only be appropriate to create a dedicated club for everyone that loves this classic blade. To become a full-fledged member of this club, all you need to do is upload a picture of your Viscaria(s) for everyone else here to appreciate.

Some come on in – show off your Viscaria(s) and join the club... fresh brownies and cold beer is in the back.

To get things started, here's a picture of my Viscarias (or Viscariae/Viscarius/Viscosus, for Tiny):

For a bigger version of this picture http://notbyhand.com/TT/Viscarias_LG.jpg" rel="nofollow - CLICK HERE .

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Current Club Members:

1. Pondus

2. jt99sf

3. zeio

4. mhnh007

5. tiehwen

6. kakapo

7. Timo1978

8. Dean

9. Giangt

10. Emihet

11. TKMP

12. Edizg

13. Johnny Erasure

14. finspin

15. dannyreventon

16. Navin323i

17. Baal

Replies:

Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 5:22pm

Nice !!

what handle did you use for the one on the left ?

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Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 5:29pm

jt99sf wrote:

Nice !! Clap

what handle did you use for the one on the left ?

That handle looks like a Sardius/Intensity Carbon handle with a Stiga sticker. Am I right Rene?

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Posted By: E.ZegnaFan
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 5:38pm

Nope, he replaced the Viscaria's handle with old Stiga Kjell Johansson handle. Big smile

Cong guessed pretty close with Stiga Intensity (carbon) one, congrat. man !

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78 Stiga Super Carbon/Calibra Tour M.

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Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 5:45pm

Seeing that the word Viscaria is a Latin form created by botanists, can we say that the plural is Viscariae?

Or maybe Viscaria is already plural, so one blade should be Viscarius or even Viscosus.

ok, ok back to mi rum :-)

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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 6:17pm

I would love to join the club but there is a problem.."Currently out of stock for the duration of the human race". I have never see such a hard to get blade!!

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Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 6:19pm

E.ZegnaFan wrote:

Nope, he replaced the Viscaria's handle with old Stiga Kjell Johansson handle. Big smile

Cong guessed pretty close with Stiga Intensity (carbon) one, congrat. man !

Haha, I know my blades Wink

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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 6:30pm

frogger wrote:

I would love to join the club but there is a problem.."Currently out of stock for the duration of the human race". I have never see such a hard to get blade!!

You have to look in the right place... LOL

they're in SF.

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林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil

Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 6:49pm

This exclusive club is for those who really treasure, keep & play with their Viscarias", right? It's the offshoot of that Moth Club. I'm a diehard member of that "Moth" Club.

So, John, this club is not for you. You, like some others, belong to that "Flipper" Club.

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 10:25pm

The Viscaria on the very left side of my picture is this one: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60749&title=my-viscaria-johansson-blade" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60749&title=my-viscaria-johansson-blade

Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 10:28pm

We need more closeups, folks.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃〃)
= 184.8g

Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/15/2014 at 10:34pm

Nice one, Zeio - welcome to the club, brother. Big smile

Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 6:04am

I am wondering that the "VisJ" Dean has not joined yet

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 6:55am

I'm gonna try to post one picture this evening.

Great club !!!

Dean, where are you ?

Posted By: Lestat
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 7:13am

Pondus wrote:

To get things started, here's a picture of my Viscarias

Not a member of this club anymore but just wanted to say, the great attention to detail you've put into that shot didn't go unnoticed Wink

Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 7:35am

i want to join

:(

Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 8:15am

frogger wrote:

I would love to join the club but there is a problem.."Currently out of stock for the duration of the human race". I have never see such a hard to get blade!!

Here's your chance, my friend: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66082&PN=1&title=taking-orders-bty-blades" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66082&PN=1&title=taking-orders-bty-blades

Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 8:44am

After flipping one of my Vis for an older TB Sparks, can I still join the Vis-Club?

Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 8:53am

Great stuff, mhnh007 – come on in!!! :)

Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 10:13am

btw, Pondus. You're the Honorable Founder, Chairman, CEO, COO or what-have-you of this elite Club.

There could be more beside the above quartet, I would've dug them out & posted them if I knew where my lady hid the "rest"......

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 12:13pm

Posted By: Trin_hoa_an
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 12:23pm

tiehwen wrote:

btw, Pondus. You're the Honorable Founder, Chairman, CEO, COO or what-have-you of this elite Club.

There could be more beside the above quartet, I would've dug them out & posted them if I knew where my lady hid the "rest"......

excuse me, is this short lense?

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 12:24pm

another picture....

Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 12:29pm

There are going to be 6 more new members into this club soon, at least!

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 1:24pm

Trin_hoa_an wrote:

tiehwen wrote:

btw, Pondus. You're the Honorable Founder, Chairman, CEO, COO or what-have-you of this elite Club.

There could be more beside the above quartet, I would've dug them out & posted them if I knew where my lady hid the "rest"......

excuse me, is this short lense?

Yes, tiehwen is the lucky owner of one the rare perfect condition 1st edition Viscaria ST blades. Clap

Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 1:26pm

Great photos tiehwen and kakapo... the club is growing rapidly. Before you know it, we'll need to arrange for membership cards, matching club shirts, and secretly gather to collectively adore our Viscaria blades. Tongue

Posted By: puppy412
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 1:46pm

some time ago I owned a viscaria....
but I sold it, I think now it's somewhere in the uk.

what I have now is a donic persson carbotec which is pretty similar.
I'd say deep down every viscaria is a persson carbotec wannabe Embarrassed

Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 2:23pm

i have the donic persson carbotec and i find it to be hard.....is that what the viscaria is like?

that is not what i envisioned

btw - anybody interested in trading a dpc ST for a viscaria ST ? (yeah,,,, right)

Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 2:23pm

Hidden in a dark Corner of my closet i have found some, not many, but i hope it is still enough to join

President Pondus, have you seen Dean?

While searching i also found a pic of this blonde player. It is said he has been using a Viscaria and somehow he looks kinda familar...

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 2:26pm

Pondus, what a great idea Clap

It would be an honour getting the chance to join the VIS-Club.

Here are some family pics of my old version VIS-Ladies (1993/96 and 1997/2001).

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 2:33pm

Great seeing the pics of your nice Viscarias Pondus, jt99sf, tiehwen, kakapo and timo1978 Thumbs Up

René, your idea with the club shirts doesn´t let me go...this could become something outstanding!

Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 3:40pm

Bravo, Timo1978 and Dean!!! Fantastic Viscarias both of you have. Clap

Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 3:54pm

Dean,

just awesome !! Drool !!

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林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil

Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 3:54pm

Dean wrote:

René, your idea with the club shirts doesn´t let me go...

Okay, Chris - which one do you want; the blue or the black version? LOL

Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 4:18pm

jt99sf wrote:

Dean,

just awesome !! Drool !!

Thanks John! Those ladies from time to time all want tender loving care...not easy to manage meanwhile Wink

Pondus wrote:

Okay, Chris - which one do you want; the blue or the black version? LOL

Awesome

The blue one please and in addition the limited white edition (available for the first 15 club members, having an additional tiny sharpened lense from the first series in the neck).

For me, both shirts V-necked... Big smile

Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 4:29pm

I like both, where do I sign up for the shirts Rene?

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 4:31pm

I like the black one....I like the blue one....I'd like to have both Big smile

Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 4:53pm

I would also take one each

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 4:53pm

The "limited" white version that Dean was asking for:

The shape on the chest of the shirt is already that of the original short sharpened lense - perhaps it's hard to tell when it's not on a handle. Smile

Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 4:54pm

Is Butterfly going to be ok with us getting shirts without their "license"?

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 4:58pm

liulin04 wrote:

Is Butterfly going to be ok with us getting shirts without their "license"?

Dude - I'm not actually making any shirts, I'm just kidding around.

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(Although... seeing the instant interest, there may be a good business here.) LOL

Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 4:59pm

Where is the "Camouflage Edition" with fish scale

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Posted By: Giangt
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 5:00pm

Nice ones guys! I will contribute with my blade here.

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/16/2014 at 5:07pm

Timo1978 wrote:

Where is the "Camouflage Edition" Edition with fish scale

LOL

Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 04/17/2014 at 8:08am

Pondus wrote:

liulin04 wrote:

Is Butterfly going to be ok with us getting shirts without their "license"?

Dude - I'm not actually making any shirts, I'm just kidding around.

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(Although... seeing the instant interest, there may be a good business here.) LOL

except for the Bty logo on the back, which is the Register trade mark, I don't think there will be a problem. Replace it with the word 'Perfomance', then you will be OK

Posted By: Avallo
Date Posted: 04/17/2014 at 11:43am

pals
need your help to check my Viscaria at http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66019&title=viscaria-check

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Posted By: Fulanodetal
Date Posted: 04/17/2014 at 11:58am

The t-shirt would be great! I would prefer the black one.
Uploading a pic of my two blades very soon.

Posted By: Giangt
Date Posted: 04/17/2014 at 12:55pm

I also prefer the black one, but the blue looks nice too :) good job Pondus!

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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 04/17/2014 at 1:00pm

Old ver. Viscaria ST - NIB

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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 04/17/2014 at 1:53pm

René, I haven't stopped thinking of your T'shirts for hours ..............

Posted By: Giangt
Date Posted: 04/17/2014 at 2:46pm

tiehwen wrote:

Old ver. Viscaria ST - NIB

very nice tiehwen!

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 2:23pm

Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 2:54pm

@pondus
you SHOULD change your Avatar to reflect your commitment to be a member of this club you own-self initiated/proposed or started. LOL

man, that is already the 1st sign of betrayal before even jumping onto our Viscaria's Bandwagon.

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Posted By: aroonkl
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 2:58pm

I want that. Where on earth did u find this thing?

I tried Vis for couple times. I never have any thought to own one as I really hate its FL handle.

Pondus wrote:

Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 4:00pm

Pondus wrote:

Wonderful Lady with a nice and soft-looking thumb polish Clap

Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 4:06pm

Viscaria ST. is now the new holy grail of blades.

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Red side
Black side.

Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 4:19pm

frogger wrote:

Viscaria ST. is now the new holy grail of blades.

Isn´t it the holy grail of blades for several years already?

Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 4:19pm

frogger wrote:

Viscaria ST. is now the new holy grail of blades.

I'm going to make a Viscaria AN. Clap

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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 4:20pm

Would definitely revisit the Viscaria if it had a straight handle.

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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 4:23pm

Dean wrote:

frogger wrote:

Viscaria ST. is now the new holy grail of blades.

Isn´t it the holy grail of blades for several years already?

I thought one of Timo Bolls old ALC ST was. Someone here said they actually had one.

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Black side.

Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 4:52pm

jt99sf wrote:

I'm going to make a Viscaria AN. Clap

nah..that would be a waste of your resources i.e. your time, effort, material ( nice An. handle pieces) & $$$ which you don't seem to have. Leave that to Btfly of Japan, I asked them to make me "some" already...

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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 6:17pm

Dean wrote:

frogger wrote:

Viscaria ST. is now the new holy grail of blades.

Isn´t it the holy grail of blades for several years already?

I agree due to the fact that there are so many people really hot and keen for the Viscaria ST but personally I think that there are some other models that are even much harder to get.

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Posted By: emihet
Date Posted: 04/19/2014 at 1:39am

I had 6-7 old ones and 3 new ones after trades and sales...I am left with 3 old ones

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 04/19/2014 at 1:20pm

Beautiful blades, emihet!!! I know you used to have a lot bigger of a collection of blades, but sure still have some gems. Thumbs Up

Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 04/20/2014 at 11:18pm

i have one.

btw, that pic is timo boll. he didn't have blonde hair. that was due to the age of the photo that the hue looked yellow. he played viscaria before tbs was made.

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Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 04/21/2014 at 6:28am

kurokami wrote:

i have one.

btw, that pic is timo boll. he didn't have blonde hair. that was due to the age that the hue looked yellow. he played viscaria before tbs was made.

BTW, sure i knew before it was Boll. And the hair Color was not due to his Age, there was a bad fashion trend in these days in Germany to Change the hair Color into blonde. Hope that trend never Returns, but who knows

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 05/05/2014 at 4:52pm

Let me show you my little project. My ambition was to equip an old Viscaria FL with a custom ST handle that should have the dimensions of a Maze ST/Mizutani ST handle but the design of the Viscaria handle. (In terms of playing to me the Maze and Mizu ST handles feel great)

In addition I wanted to have a very very gentle "thumb polish".

Therefore an old version Vis FL (1993/96) now got new handle plates. As you can see, the lady has kept her sharpened lense. The weight is ~87g. Here we go:

Posted By: schen
Date Posted: 05/05/2014 at 5:00pm

Dean wrote:

Let me show you my little project. My ambition was to equip an old Viscaria FL with a custom ST handle that should have the dimensions of a Maze ST/Mizutani ST handle but the design of the Viscaria handle. (In terms of playing to me the Maze and Mizu ST handles feel great)

That's awesome! Has anyone tried to equip the viscaria with a cpen handle? taksim was disappointing :/

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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/05/2014 at 8:10pm

Taksim'a handle looked a bit like a c-pen Viscaria, but was quite different in construction and playing qualitied. The middle layer was much thicker and the blade was a lot stiffer. In a lot of ways Taksim was more like Iolite.

Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/05/2014 at 8:12pm

I have owned about ten of them, currently have four. All of these four are less than two years old, but only one of them plays like an old one. The fact that you guys have all of these straight ones is amazing. So hard to find.

Posted By: bschap
Date Posted: 05/05/2014 at 9:45pm

OK, Viscaria club...here's a question...

Q - Do the new Viscarias play as well as the old ones? Is there a consensus on this? Old ones better...new ones better...the same...

Thank.

Posted By: berkeleydoctor
Date Posted: 05/17/2014 at 1:50pm

bschap wrote:

OK, Viscaria club...here's a question...

Q - Do the new Viscarias play as well as the old ones? Is there a consensus on this? Old ones better...new ones better...the same...

Thank.

i'm gonna bump this bc i'm also interested in what ppl think about the new batch of viscarias?

Posted By: hanbingjie
Date Posted: 05/17/2014 at 2:05pm

so cool

Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 05/17/2014 at 2:26pm

tiehwen wrote:

Old ver. Viscaria ST - NIB

@pondus..Sir
I was thinking of letting this old Visc. ST go, either on EBay or here, for 599.99 USD excl. shipping & insurance.
Why do you think, buddy o pal? LOL

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 05/17/2014 at 3:16pm

tiehwen wrote:

tiehwen wrote:

Old ver. Viscaria ST - NIB

@pondus..Sir
I was thinking of letting this old Visc. ST go, either on EBay or here, for 599.99 USD excl. shipping & insurance.
Why do you think, buddy o pal? LOL

Hmmm... tough one. It's obviously a lot of money, so that would probably be nice. But at the same time, selling a blade like that could easily be regretted later.

I guess the question is whether you really need that money or not.

Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/17/2014 at 11:30pm

The questions about new ones vs. old ones, I think the main difference is weight, so if you like them heavier, you may prefer older ones. As with anything else, there is some variation from blade to blade, this was always true, so not all old ones are good and not all new ones are bad, and even a bad Viscaria is still a really fantastic blade.

Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 05/18/2014 at 1:07am

Vis with T80 did not work for me!

I would go with BF M1 or just reg T05.

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Posted By: Thomasson
Date Posted: 06/03/2014 at 4:05am

Thomasson reporting for duty.

After several ventures to other blades, the "Viscaria" will be my main blade from now on.
Sadly enough I let go 2 of my Viscaria only a year ago, thinking I would never like it.
1 old version with black tag and 1 new version with perfect fish scale Cry

Here is the old version, the new version is in the box you can see.

I needed time with other blades to finally be able to appreciate this blade:

My main blades in what I believe was the correct order:
1: Donic Alpha Slick (Premade) "2004, 1 competition"
2: Donic Appelgren allplay v2 "2004+2005, 3 competitions"
3: Donic Persson Dotec "2006, 1 competition"
4: Butterfly Photino "2006+2007+2008, 5 competitions"
5: Butterfly Timo Boll ALC (a good one, which seems hard to find these days) "2009, 1 competition"
6: Nittaku Acoustic "2009+2010, 3 competitions"
7: Butterfly Mizutani Jun "2011, 1 competition"
6: Nittaku Acoustic "2011+2012, 3 competitions"
8: OSP Virtuoso "2013, 2 competitions"
9: Nittaku Acoustic Carbon "2014, 1 competition"
10: Butterfly Viscaria "2014.."

Please note that every year has 2 seasons/competitions.

I will add the picture of my latest blade when the new rubbers are in!

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Blade: Viscaria
FH: Dignics 05 2.1
BH: ABS 2 pro

Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 06/03/2014 at 4:18am

tsanyc wrote:

Vis with T80 did not work for me!

I would go with BF M1 or just reg T05.

A junior broke 2100 with this combo. I wonder about what something not "working" for someone objectively means these days...

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Cybershape Carbon
FH/BH: H3P 41D.
Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train...

Posted By: qkac
Date Posted: 06/04/2014 at 3:50am

I love it, viscaria is perfect for me...

http://plus.google.com/photos/115263714387378606989/albums/5708979039311380833" rel="nofollow - https://plus.google.com/photos/115263714387378606989/albums/5708979039311380833

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BTY VISCARIA FL;
FH/BH: BTY D09C max/BTY D05 max

Posted By: bschap
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 8:13pm

fish scales?? what does this mean?

Thomasson wrote:

Thomasson reporting for duty.

After several ventures to other blades, the "Viscaria" will be my main blade from now on.
Sadly enough I let go 2 of my Viscaria only a year ago, thinking I would never like it.
1 old version with black tag and 1 new version with perfect fish scale Cry

Here is the old version, the new version is in the box you can see.

Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 10:48pm

I like my ZJK-ALCs, I have two of them, they are very good blades, tried them for a month. But I still like my favorite Viscaria best. There is just something, I'm not sure what. I miss less.

Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 11:13pm

I like mine for being forgiving and versatile.

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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)

林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil

Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 06/25/2014 at 11:59pm

Hi, let me join and show my Viscaria.

Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/26/2014 at 12:25am

Interesting Viscaria with handle that looks like a Moonbeam. I have never seen one like that.

Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/26/2014 at 9:23am

TKMP wrote:

Hi, let me join and show my Viscaria.

The one with red lines is a first version, special version or line-painted-in-red version ? Big smile

I have an old viscaria side-pinted-in-red version too LOL

Posted By: Timo1978
Date Posted: 06/26/2014 at 9:30am

I´d say the red one was a mistake in production.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 1:21pm

This Viscaria has been discussed some months ago within the forum, you may have a look here:

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63071&PID=752858&title=viscaria-fl-first-series#752858" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63071&PID=752858&title=viscaria-fl-first-series#752858

Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 2:14pm

What did people eventually decide about it? This seems like another one has been spotted, so I now believe they exist.

Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 2:17pm

is there any further news or info about the possible mass order of the custom made STs ?

Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 2:25pm

My Viscaria side-painted-red version...around 2.5st series LOL

Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 3:15pm

Baal wrote:

What did people eventually decide about it? This seems like another one has been spotted, so I now believe they exist.

If you follow my link(s) it will always lead you to the blade (red line handle) of member TKMP. If you take a closer look at the pictures showing the blade you will see it is always the same blade. I never saw any picture showing a second one (with red line handle).

Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 3:30pm

Ok, I see. Thanks.

Posted By: bschap
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 7:34pm

So I take it Viscarias can vary in weight quite a bit...~82g to 92g or even more variation perhaps. My question is, is there a general way this effects the balance of the blade? If, say, a blade is on the heavy side, it is more likely the extra weight is in he handle? or the head? Or does it go both ways and there is no way to tell?

Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 9:37pm

After decades of playing and after owning tons of blades including many Viscarias I have concluded that there is no way to tell in advance how they will play. Some people like the scaly look of wood on surface, and two of the best ones I ever had --- stolen out of my bag Angry

-- had that look, but the one I have now that is just as good doesn't. I don't think it is weight balance or total weight either (although I don't like the newer super-light ones). It's not the tone they make when you knock them against your head. The only way to know is to play with them. One reason I own quite a few is that I ordered several trying to get one that was as good as the pair that were taken. Currently I have four, one is perfect, one is pretty good, the other two are much less good. That is a tough way to go at 105-130 apiece (the price range over the last couple of years). I wish I had a better answer.

Posted By: bschap
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 9:45pm

good stuff, Baal, thanks. So I can stop banging the blades around on my head? :-) I thought they might be on to something with that.

Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/27/2014 at 11:59pm

Well, if the sound is way off, the blade will be too, but if the sound is right it doesn't mean the blade will be exactly the way you like it. Sadly.

Posted By: edizg
Date Posted: 06/29/2014 at 8:30am

Hi, I would like to show you my Viscaria blades

As you can see, all of them has old black metal tag. Also, they don't have serial numbers. The first Viscaria FL from the right weighs 83.6 g, while the one in the middle is 86.7 g, Viscaria ST weighs 92.2 g. The previous owner of Viscaria ST obviously wasn't satisfied with the thickness of the handle, so he sanded it. I am planning to restore it and I am interested to buy lense of Viscaria ST or the whole handle if somebody here has broken Viscaria ST.

Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 07/21/2014 at 1:56pm

In the meantime I received another four ladies. Yet not named, they have joined the Vis family Wink

Posted By: *_strataras_*
Date Posted: 07/22/2014 at 2:54am

I have a pair too Wink

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OSP Virtuoso SQST
Tenergy 05(black 1,9mm FH)
Tenergy 05(red 1,9mm BH)

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