Tibhar Samsonov Pure Wood
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Topic: Tibhar Samsonov Pure Wood
Posted By: AndySmith
Subject: Tibhar Samsonov Pure Wood
Date Posted: 09/22/2014 at 5:15am
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Hi all, Has anyone used one of these yet? They're on offer at TT11 this week, and I'm tempted to give them a try. I can't find much info about them on the interwebs yet, so I'm not even sure of the composition... Ta! ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/22/2014 at 7:39am
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2 months and i haven't received any word from tibhar. they said they were supposed to send the blades (aside from the pure wood, the force pro black also) last end of july ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 09/22/2014 at 8:06am
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Hi Andy, If you want to try cheap blade from tibhar i suggest you Tibhar Premium Contact. I got many blades,and believe me this one is better than ZLC or Super ZLC. I believe Yogi can confirm my words ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 09/22/2014 at 9:23am
Not sure if joking, or.... ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
t64t64t64 wrote:Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 09/22/2014 at 9:25am
The Force Pro Black Edition looks nice, actually. A slight modification on the original, but nice all the same. With the Pure Wood, there's something which nags at my mind when I look at it. I wonder where it's made? Hmmm. Any insider info yogi? Shame you didn't get them in the end. Well, since my order for the Blue Feeling was cancelled (out of stock!), I'll give the Pure Wood a try instead. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/22/2014 at 7:55pm
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all i know the pure wood is an all+ wood maybe an improvement of the alpha ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 09/22/2014 at 11:18pm
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The new Samsonov Alpha and Alpha SGS are designed to be in the Off- class. In reality they are more All+ / Off-. I think Samsonov Pure Wood is designed to be in the All+ class. So I don't think it's an improvement of the Alpha (in term of speed). ------------- Blade : Just wood FH : black rubber BH : red rubber |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/23/2014 at 12:15am
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doesn't have to be an improvement in just the speed area ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/23/2014 at 12:24am
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Why is everything Tibhar branded Samsonov? What happened to Freitas and Tokic amongst others, even Samara? ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 09/23/2014 at 12:28am
Because Freitas and Tokic haven't achieved much in their professional careers compared to Samsonov. Freitas can still reach top 10 and possibly top 8, but Bojac Tokic has stalled in the top50. ------------- Main: Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 09/23/2014 at 4:53am
There isn't much info available about the Pure Wood, but the reviews on tt11 do say that it's faster than ALL+. As for the Alpha - the Pure Wood looks to have a different top ply to me, and the edge pictures show a much darker medial ply: http://atte.at/Tibhar-stomme-Samsonov-Pure-Wood" rel="nofollow - http://atte.at/Tibhar-stomme-Samsonov-Pure-Wood I suspect it will be a different kind of blade. tt11 shipped yesterday, so hopefully I'll have better info by the end of the week. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 09/23/2014 at 2:16pm
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Meanwhile my JM SZLC is in vacation. It is replaced by 22 euro Samsonov Premium Contact. The amount of spin this blade produce is SICK ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 09/23/2014 at 5:59pm
LOL. How many Premium Contacts could you have bought for the price of one JM SZLC? Then you could have built a shrine out of blades and worshipped each morning. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: firetack
Date Posted: 09/24/2014 at 3:55am
 that has cheered me up Andy(hale Lord Samsonov)------------- Black Balsa 3.0 fh/tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 09/24/2014 at 5:45am
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Samsonov Pure Wood handle design reminds me of some AVX blades. However I would love to see its ST shape. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 09/28/2014 at 4:44pm
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OK, so the Pure Wood has arrived. It's 86g, well-made, I like the style, comfy FL handle. I've got some digital callipers, and they say that it's 6.1mm thick. Headsize is 157x152. If people are interested I'll get some photos on in the next few days. I'm not 100% on the construction. The outer ply is quite thick, and has got a touch of scale about it, like koto, but not all over the blade face. Could be ayous, but to be honest most of the ayous outer blades I've seen in the past have been dyed. It doesn't look as "regular" in terms of grain as the Yinhe J-1 pics I've seen, or the Keyshot Light I had ages ago, so I don't know. Maybe it's fineline? Imagine a fineline made from mashed-up koto and limba. Looks like that. (Edit - looking at the thread on the Gambler Mega Weave, the top ply looks a lot like that. So probably an ayous outer) Medial plies look to be sapele (hence the dark wood look), and the core is probably kiri. So, if it is fineline/samba - sapele - kiri, that makes this a thicker version of either the Eagle Medium or the Eagle Speed. Hmmmm. edit - 30 minute robot session with Tenzone Ultra / Rhyzm 425. This blade is a nice surprise! It has a very solid, reassuring feeling. Only slight, faint vibrations when hitting off-centre. No hollow feel (I hate that in cheaper 5 ply woods). I'd put this bang in the middle of the ALL+/OFF- categories. Medium hard feel, very linear, incredibly easy to use. I don't have a lot of room in the garage to move away from the table, but I get the impression that it's probably going to lack power from distance. I don't find that to be a particular problem with modern rubbers, but it all depends on what your expectations are. Close-in it feels like you can't miss. I have a robot exercise which I use when trying new stuff out which is to vary the stroke on one wing in sequence. Drive, block, loop, punch, chop, repeat. I find that if a blade has something surprising about it, it makes itself known somewhere. The Pure Wood just did everything well, even the chopping (I'm no chopper). Looping arc is good, but with this being a solid, med-hard blade I'm not sure about the quality of spin, or the put-away power yet. I'll get a human in front of me tonight and see what happens. I might try something Chinese on the FH at some point too - it feels like a solid (if steady) base. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: Benigma
Date Posted: 10/10/2014 at 7:32am
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How are you going with the Pure Wood so far? Has your opinion of it changed? Still an all+/off- in terms of speed? |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 10/10/2014 at 7:37am
I'm really enjoying it! I might make the switch permanently. It's definitely faster than ALL+, apart from in the softer, shorter stuff where it feels nice and easy to use. Overall I'd probably put it as off-, around primorac speed. I tried a new sheet of 64-fx last session, and it was plenty fast. Not really an allround blade at all, IMO. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 10/10/2014 at 7:53am
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Hi andy, do you have experience with Tibhar Premium Contact or Stratus power wood for a comparison with PURE WOOD. Thank you ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61764&PID=734709 |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 10/10/2014 at 11:55am
I haven't used the Premium Contact. It's a bit slower than the Stratus Power Wood. It's also a bit stiffer, maybe a bit softer, more head heavy. Pure Wood is probably better closer to the table than the Stratus, so it probably comes down to where you spend most of your time when playing. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 10/29/2014 at 8:25am
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Hmmm. This blade is prone to splintering when removing rubbers. Recommend sealing before you use it. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: mog1111
Date Posted: 12/13/2016 at 9:27am
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I emailed Tibhar. the blade is; "The Pure woods consist of Koto, Mahagoni and Samba layers. The outer ply is Koto." ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon FH: Tenergy 05fx BH: Spinlord Keiler |