Think I'm Nuts?
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Topic: Think I'm Nuts?
Posted By: frogger
Subject: Think I'm Nuts?
Date Posted: 12/30/2014 at 10:04pm
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I have been playing Tenergy's and some Nittaku rubbers for a few years now and find I lose crucial points due to the speed/spin/control of those rubbers. I found some max thickness Sriver, yes Sriver that I put on my TBS. I glued it up with 3 layers of Elmer's glue and I must say the feeling was fantastic. My loops are landing with much more accuracy with a little less speed (still fast though) and touch for short balls is much better. I don't use Elmer's for the speed glue effect but for the ease of use. A fresh sheet of Sriver is deader than a frozen horse So am I nuts for changing to this setup? 3 layers of Elmer's is gooooood! Dan Seemiller told me it was real good.  ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
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Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 12/30/2014 at 10:22pm
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Winning with dead horse beats losing with thoroughbred! ------------- Butterfly MPS FH: Donic Acuda S1 BH: Palio CK531A OX |
Posted By: dannyreventon
Date Posted: 12/30/2014 at 10:58pm
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I hope you are using the Elmers rubber cement not the elmers white glue. ------------- Main Setup: Timo Boll Spirit FH: Neo H3 Prov 39deg BH: Xiom Musa Stiga Clipper Wood FH: Neo Skyline 3 BH: Stiga Neos Sound ST Avenger 5 FH: Neo H3 Bh: Xiom Musa |
Posted By: pnachtwey
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 12:51am
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I wouldn't pay the money for sriver. I am a fan of the cheap DHS rubbers. H2 Neo or H3 Neo are good to me. I also like IQUL mentioned in another thread. There is no impulse, or resulting trajectory, that T05 or other fancy rubbers can generate that these cheaper rubbers can't. You aren't nuts for ditching Tenergy or other fancy rubbers. You are just nuts for spending all that money on sriver. BTW, I think Mark V is better but I don't buy that anymore either. ------------- I TT therefore I am |
Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 2:01am
I am very ignorant of the prices - when I absolutely need rubber - I buy from some guys at the club. What is the price you pay for the DHS rubbers. I know the price for Sriver & Mark V are $30 (guy at the club sells them for that) ------------- Butterfly MPS FH: Donic Acuda S1 BH: Palio CK531A OX |
pnachtwey wrote:Posted By: pnachtwey
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 3:05am
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I buy from colestt.com, zeropong.com or fastpaddle.com. The highest price for H3 Neo is $22. Fast paddle usually sells for less but then adds extra shipping charges so a lot depends on how big the order is. A dollar here or there doesn't make that much difference to me. I like the convince of getting what I want from one source or order,
Your club source probably buys in bulk form ttnpp.com or a similar source. Considering the hassle I think you are getting a good deal. There is one person in the Portland area that does the same thing. ------------- I TT therefore I am |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 5:01am
 Your best ever post ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 5:05am
A new Sriver vs Mark V thread. Ooooh, I luv this ! Revival of a 50yo rivalry. In the old days, those players who could not make up their mind simply put both rubbers on their blades. All we need now is an Alser vs Bengtsson blade thread. Magic and Oesthen are you ready? ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 9:49am
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I don't care for tacky rubbers regardless of price or brand. No we don't need another Sriver vs Mark V thread..gag a maggot. I may pay more for Sriver but it lasts longer than your Uncle Bert. I love Mark V too but it's 2 bucks more Sriver. I think we need a tread like why Rondell sucks so badly. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 11:15am
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How do you compare Sriver vs Renanos Hold? ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 11:31am
It doesn't have to be tacky, but pnatchwey is on the money about buying Mark V and Sriver. I bought $8 Dawei Super XP 2008 from colestt.com in 2.2mm. It was a bit heavy, but other than that, it performed at least as well and probably better than Mark V. I played with it at a level very close to my current one. I am sure the same can be said for Focus Snipe 3 or other reasonable 729 rubbers. Paying the Mark V or Sriver price when cheaper traditional rubbers exist is something I cannot support, though I would probably get the Super XP in a thinner sponge for a learner just because it is that heavy (I didn't mind it at all since I play with paddles in the 180-190g range). I wouldn't do H3, but I have been using Big Dipper for a month now and it got me off Tenergy. The spin and speed on loops has given me a new insight into how Chinese rubbers differ from European rubbers. Can't speak ill of tacky rubbers anymore after trying Big Dipper. I still consider Tenergy a special rubber though and find pnatchwey's position a little misinformed - tensioned rubbers are not the same as traditional rubbers for many reasons. Playing styles do matter when choosing certain kinds of rubbers, even inverted ones.
------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 11:48am
Exactly  ------------- |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 11:49am
Renanos Hold is faster, and spinnier. It is not a very "forgiving rubber especially for service returns. Sriver has better allround control but not as powerful. Renanos Hold is an advanced rubber, I like it but takes more training time to tame.  ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 11:51am
Thanks for insightful knowledge. I will call Cole to get his feedback. :) ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 3:11pm
I am using Elmer's Rubber Cemment. Less than 3 bucks a bottle. Best glue since sliced bread. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 12/31/2014 at 7:51pm
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Even though elmers is a weak speed glue compared to some of the old speed glues, it's still a lot stronger than tuner. I'm sure if you glued it up and played with sriver still wet, it probably did play a lot better than tenergy. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 01/01/2015 at 3:40am
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If you find solvent thinner, you can homebrew your own speed glue : ) Not as strong as conventional speed glues, but still really nice to play with. x2 Mendo speed glued up on a Clipper is a perfect combo for me |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 01/01/2015 at 11:54am
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Ya speed glued Sriver is wicked fast but I'm not after that kind of speed glue feel. I have found that that several layers of Elmer's 6-7 layers classic rubbers take on a different feel. They are faster by 5% and almost feel like a lightly tuned tensor. Ball impact is much nicer. Since I am more a controlled looper this suits my game very well. Plenty fast since I rarely play far from the table. I have one sheet of old Mark V Max that has at least 12 layers of old glue on it. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |