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Topic: Best Blade for RPB style
Posted By: wankhao
Subject: Best Blade for RPB style
Date Posted: 01/29/2015 at 2:06am
Calling all RPB players, especially experienced ones with high ranking.

What is the best blade for RPB have you used?
How heavy is it including rubbers attached on both sides?
Also, how long have you playing RPB style? Are you a convert from handshake style?



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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 01/29/2015 at 3:01am
The best blade is Butterfly Paradox R. With this blade even such an awkard stroke becomes easy. It's hard to get one though.

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Hammond FA Speed

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Posted By: schen
Date Posted: 01/29/2015 at 4:03am
For purely RPB, Hurricane King 3 was the easiest for me by far.  Nice medium hard feel and thin at 5.8mm, paired well with Tenergy and not too head heavy in an 86g blade with a hurricane on the FH.  However I found the blade's FH side to be a bit too weak in the penhold version and found myself smashing instead of looping to get some pace on the ball (I'm certain the shakehand version is different though).

The Ma Lin Carbon is also a very nice option for RPB as it is also very thin/comfortable at 5.6mm with a solid but soft feel (limba outer ply) and has a great amount of control.  I would recommend one weighing at least 84g, otherwise it may be too weak as it is a relatively slow blade.

Currently I am using the YEO with T05 and I have played RPB since I first started.  The YEO does not have as much control as either of the two blades and throws a bit higher, but packs a lot more speed and is slightly thicker at 6mm.


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Posted By: blackhole
Date Posted: 01/29/2015 at 10:35pm
YEO,
Ma Lin Carbon,
Hurricane Hao 2,
Nano OC

I believe the HH2 is specially designed for RPB style and supposed to be the best one. But I have not used it.

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Double happiness H301 (Penhold RPB style)

FH:Baracuda 2.0

BH:Baracuda 2.0



Posted By: hhca
Date Posted: 01/30/2015 at 12:21pm
Thin flex blades are in general easy to do RPB at least when you first started. As your skills improve, you may have preferences to different blade stiffness


Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 01/30/2015 at 1:07pm
I was always told the yasaka shape was best for rpb.  Back in those days, both wang hao and ma lin used yasaka gatien extra.

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Posted By: hhca
Date Posted: 01/30/2015 at 1:17pm
I started with YO40 when first started RPB and moved to yasaka soft carbon (ma lin sc), yasaka carbon (ma lin carbon), YEO. Indeed they are all good for RPB. But RPB is only ONE part of one's PH style game.
 
Eventually I moved away from yasaka blades although yasaka made its name with PH blades and its handles are the most comfortable ones


Posted By: jasonz
Date Posted: 01/31/2015 at 10:35am
Stiga RW5, EB5, YEO, HH2 (656) - generally 5 ply blades

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Stiga Xu Xin Dynasty
FH DHS TG -60 Soft
BH DHS H3 white sponge pro


Posted By: atomant
Date Posted: 01/31/2015 at 2:00pm
My favourite Cpen ... IF ZLC.


Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 02/01/2015 at 1:49am
Order from my newest to oldest blades all for cpen RPB. All were penholds except for jmszlc.

1. Jun Mizutani super zlc
2. Timo boll alc
3. Timo boll t5000
4. Xiom rsm athena platinum
5. Hurricane Hao
6. Acoustic
7. Violin
8. Chinese ULC
9. Michael Maze
10. Timo Boll Spirit
11. Gatien Extra
12. Offensive Classic

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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/01/2015 at 7:29am
HK2 and HH2. Still, the handle of all pen blades is too short for RPB. 88-90 should be the new standard.


Posted By: wankhao
Date Posted: 02/01/2015 at 7:53am
Hi Schen

How do you rate between YEO and Malin Carbon?


Posted By: wankhao
Date Posted: 02/01/2015 at 7:54am
Hi hhca,

What blade do you move into, after yasaka?


Posted By: wankhao
Date Posted: 02/01/2015 at 7:56am
Hi Blackhole

Can you do a quick review of Stiga VPS Infinity for CPEN?


Posted By: schen
Date Posted: 02/01/2015 at 4:30pm
YEO is significantly faster, harder, and stiffer.  MLC is softer, thinner, and more flexible with less speed and more control in my opinion.  MLC is much more forgiving.

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Posted By: hhca
Date Posted: 02/01/2015 at 10:11pm
Originally posted by wankhao wankhao wrote:

Hi hhca,

What blade do you move into, after yasaka?


after yasaka blades, I played the following:
1. butterfly primorac carbon
2. stiga carbo 7.6
3. chinese sanwei 1091A soft carbon
4. nitakku lialox
5. cc5
6. cc7
7. maple VII
8. clcc
9. DHS 506
10. hayabusha Zx
11. kanaph
12. arirang


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 02/01/2015 at 11:54pm
Originally posted by hhca hhca wrote:

Originally posted by wankhao wankhao wrote:

Hi hhca,

What blade do you move into, after yasaka?


after yasaka blades, I played the following:
1. butterfly primorac carbon
2. stiga carbo 7.6
3. chinese sanwei 1091A soft carbon
4. nitakku lialox
5. cc5
6. cc7
7. maple VII
8. clcc
9. DHS 506
10. hayabusha Zx
11. kanaph
12. arirang

how was the experience with the lialox blade? explain please


Posted By: hhca
Date Posted: 02/02/2015 at 12:07am
lialox is very linear. Very good at TPH blocking. very solid at smashing and yet does not feel stiff. Good looping blade too.


Posted By: wankhao
Date Posted: 02/02/2015 at 7:24am
Out of the 12, which one do you feel most at home with playing RPB, not TPB?


Posted By: hhca
Date Posted: 02/02/2015 at 10:13am
Originally posted by wankhao wankhao wrote:

Out of the 12, which one do you feel most at home with playing RPB, not TPB?
 
none of them hence the reason for the next one. Big smile
 
 
out of these blades, cc5 and arirang are the two blades that are most forgiving for my swing.


Posted By: wankhao
Date Posted: 02/02/2015 at 9:09pm
hhca

r u kidding me? out of 12 blades, none of them can satisfy you?


Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 02/02/2015 at 9:14pm
@ wankhao, do you need any of my input for any of my cpens?

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Posted By: wankhao
Date Posted: 02/02/2015 at 9:16pm
Yes, how many cpens have you tried/used.
Which one is your pick?
Which one will you keep?


Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 02/02/2015 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by wankhao wankhao wrote:

Yes, how many cpens have you tried/used.
Which one is your pick?
Which one will you keep?

Just look at my post on the top Wink


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Posted By: berndt_mann
Date Posted: 02/03/2015 at 8:56pm
Dear Wankhao,

I was a convert from shakehands to rpb style from 2000 to 2005.  For sponge play I used a Nittaku CP-548 blade with Donic Supersonic rubber both sides (both discontinued), and for hard rubber play a custom made Super Hock 6-ply blade affixed with British Leyland rubber made for me by Don Varian.

There are reverse penhold backhands and there are other reverse penhold backhands.  Do you use your rpb to loop from mid-distance mostly crosscourt, and can you counterdrive and block and flip with your rpb?  Which type of rpb you predominantly use might have a bearing on what type of blade you chose.

I am currently looking at the Paddle Palace catalog for Winter 2013/2014.  The Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive, at $51.95 might be a good bet and should not put too much of a burden on your pocket book.  As of February 2015, it might of course cost more.  You might think about the Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon, with 5 plies of wood and 2 of carbon, listing for a mere $72.95, but maybe a bit more now.

As for choice of rubbers, I haven't a clue, as it's been nine and a half years since I last played in a competitive event, the Ohio State Closed.  So many rubbers have come out since then that I've no idea which would and which wouldn't work for the rpb (damn good stroke); I wish I could do it now, but due to a twice broken right arm and dislocated right shoulder nine years ago which pretty much killed my righty TT game, I'd have to learn to play lefty.  Fortunately, I'm somewhat ambidexterous, but being ambidexterous and being competitive are two different things.

Happy rpbing.


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