Eugene Wang vs Kalinikos Kreanga FrenchLeague 2015
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Topic: Eugene Wang vs Kalinikos Kreanga FrenchLeague 2015
Posted By: aerial
Subject: Eugene Wang vs Kalinikos Kreanga FrenchLeague 2015
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 10:32am
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This was a pretty intense match! Nice to see a North American representative overseas
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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 11:46am
| Eugene the King- Excellent fight to save the two match points in the end! Kreanga's like "You gotta be kidding" |
Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 11:49am
Kreanga never learned to not to lose his focus when needed. Best Eugene's match I have seen. ------------- (1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH. |
beeray1 wrote:Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 12:02pm
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E. Wang used to be 1 of the coaches of my kid & others few years ago in Bridgeport t/t club in Richmond, BC. He then played for Canada in the Olympics soon after he became a Canadian Citizen. He now plays for some club in Europe, eh? Cool. Kreanga got pissed off easily or in the crucial moment. good match. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 12:19pm
ya, what a black eye for Canadian government  ; fast tracked citizenship for him and no gain in the medal standing.------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 12:42pm
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Gotta be top 5 match of the year!! The ball looks kind of big? I thought the french were using the old celluoid ball? Have they moved on to 40+? Anyone know which brand?
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 12:51pm
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It is so great to watch!!! kreanga's backhand is still not imitated; it is incredible the level of control one can have with a full arm bh swing; why isn't it taught more? ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 1:06pm
------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: vivan4tt
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 1:49pm
The Plastic ball is not mandatory in French Pro A/Pro B and for national level (such as French National Championship), but that doesn't mean the plastic ball is not usable. It's just that this ball is not mandatory. I'm speaking for season 2014/2015 ofc. I think most (if not all) pro A clubs used plastic balls during the season 2014/2015. The very precise rule is "2.3.3 - ..."the ball must be in celluloid or similar plastic material". ------------- Mizutani sZLC / T05fx / T05fx |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 2:06pm
Anyway I bet there is a huge part of talent involved and it is not given to anybody to be able to develop such a bh; sort of a gift. ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 2:18pm
E. Wang is a nice guy still... ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 2:55pm
Eugene Wang didn't play singles in London (because he hadn't been eligible yet to qualify). Ho and Hinse played singles. Wang joined them for the team event, where they lost 0-3 to Japan. |
Posted By: malin87
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 4:28pm
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Kreanga's team use plastic balls 40+ for sure! ------------- Icecream AZX,T05,Spectol21 |
Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 4:31pm
| Great win for Eugene! Looks like he lost a little weight and is playing slightly more aggressive. |
Posted By: chongqinghotpot
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 5:25pm
| Great match. Thanks for sharing the video. |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 6:51pm
+1 million on that. |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 7:56pm
Taking the backhand from the hip is standard for away from the table power. Beyond that, making the arm too straight runs the risk of mistiming the ball and getting injured. Kreanga has short arms so he can make it work in a way that a taller person doesn't need to. There is also the recovery risk for such a stroke that is easier to manage when your arms are smaller. Samsonov's backhand will never look as explosive as Kreanga's but it is every bit as powerful. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: sandiway
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 10:00pm
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Kreanga's return of serve seems too passive against Wang Zhen. He pushes way too often. Wang Zhen is as steady as a rock. He is conservative. Never goes for a wild shot. Makes everything look considered and reasonable. Kreanga, on the other hand, ... |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 10:43pm
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Even though he lost this match, and his world ranking has dropped quite a bit, I am still awed by how fast Kreanga moves at 43. |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 11:17pm
Return of serve has always been a relative weakness of Kreanga. It would be interesting to see how he would have played if his game developed in the Chiquita era. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Victor_the_cleaner
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 11:37pm
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two of my favorite players. I didn't want anyone to lose : (. |
Posted By: Clarence247
Date Posted: 04/05/2015 at 11:37pm
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What rubbers does Wang use? ------------- OSP Virtuoso (Off-) MX-P (Max) Mantra M (Max) Backup: Yasaka Extra Offensive, Nittaku H3 Prov 729-802 SP |
Posted By: sandiway
Date Posted: 04/06/2015 at 12:51am
I think he should take the time to develop the banana since he is still active. Some of his losses must greatly frustrate him... perhaps it showed even in this match. Sandiway
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Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 04/06/2015 at 1:59am
Sounded like a pretty good crowd. How many people typically attend these matches? Loved the match. Fifth game 9-10 point was amazing. ------------- Butterfly MPS FH: Donic Acuda S1 BH: Palio CK531A OX |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 04/06/2015 at 4:55am
I am just speculating, but speaking from experience with these things based on what sometimes happens to other pros: you may be surprised that he has tried, but after trying, accepted that that boat just passed him by. As good as his backhand is, his short arms make it harder to get leverage over the table. He is probably more comfortable strictly reaching over the table to push. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: thatguy
Date Posted: 04/06/2015 at 9:03am
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Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 04/06/2015 at 11:07am
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Good match I watched it over the weekend. These guys have played each other before.  Wow, that plastic ball drops from the sky like a rock! Eugene had to dig down low for every long distance counter loop.------------- 
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Posted By: Victor_the_cleaner
Date Posted: 04/06/2015 at 1:45pm
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which invites the comment: they both appeared to have great control of the ball. Very long, very entertaining rallies. Still a lot of spin, still a lot of trajectory bend. I think the main problem with the new ball is quality and price. If they make it as durable and cheap as the old one, people will get over the difference is bounce pretty quickly.
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Posted By: vivan4tt
Date Posted: 04/06/2015 at 6:31pm
The club where it is played is Hennebont, this table tennis club is just awesome. It is not a top french club since that long (playing in Pro A since 2002 or 2003 I think), but they have made big investments to develop this club, the fanbase....etc....of course they have been French champions a lot thanks to major signatures (They quicky signed both Kreanga and RSM). The club is still young, but this is, i think, by far the French club that is making the biggest investment into very young player development......they even make traning stages for all level players (of any age), permitting to spare with very good players, even semi-pros.... No wonder this young club has a pretty good crowd and it should be even better in the future. I have never assisted to a home TT match in Hennebont since 2009 (for a champion's league match), so I don't really know what is the typical attendance for Hennebont in 2015......but it is growing, for sure. ------------- Mizutani sZLC / T05fx / T05fx |
Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 04/06/2015 at 8:03pm
and of course the youngster Kreanga did not care about the new ball a bit. Why would he... ------------- (1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH. |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 04/06/2015 at 9:18pm
I definitely agree with point (1). Regarding point (2), people will get over the difference in bounce eventually, not necessarily quickly. (Much less time needed for seamless). By that I mean it takes a couple of months or so before you are completely comfortable. Remember, these guys have been training a lot with these balls for awhile now. And being very high level pros, they make it look easy and they make it look good, but it doesn't mean they like it. |
Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 04/07/2015 at 1:34am
It's because he's so physically fit. I wonder what his off-table workout regime is ? He'll play another 5 years with steady decline but still able to draw crowds ------------- Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
Posted By: sandiway
Date Posted: 04/07/2015 at 1:40am
Hmm. As for short arms, Niwa Koki is a tiny guy but can reach over and banana everything, even managing to take down Ma Long...
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Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 04/07/2015 at 1:45am
I hear this comment more and more as the months have gone by. I too agree. His movement is so much better allowing him to play more aggressive. I noticed in this Kreanga match, Eugene tucked in his shirt. That does make him look leaner & meaner!!! Looks is what it's all about  When i saw him play tournaments in the GTA, he just left his shirt over his shorts. PS: I even remember Gretzky tucking in only the right side of his jersey. We all do things for a reason, c'mon baby!!!  I'm still cheering for Eugene to crack top 50 ------------- Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
Posted By: 100niTenis
Date Posted: 04/07/2015 at 11:35am
| Wanted to see Eugene GO places ! |