looping deep sidespin push
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Topic: looping deep sidespin push
Posted By: boaspirit
Subject: looping deep sidespin push
Date Posted: 05/05/2015 at 11:02pm
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hi haven't posted in a long time and just wondering if anybody ever experience a deep sidespin push after serving a pendulum serve and have difficulties looping it because of the unnatural skid. the guy i played against had no idea how to return my pendulum so he made up his own strokes(its like a backhand serve style, its inconsistent but when it does work i fail to loop it. its annoying really cus i dont want to push it back cus thats like really passive. anyone ever come across this and how do you deal with it? ------------- butterfly Timo Boll spirit FH TG3NEO BH vega Pro |
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Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 05/05/2015 at 11:29pm
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Just don't serve sidespin. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/05/2015 at 11:35pm
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Just loop it and see what happens. Then make adjustments to your contact point. Usually, you will find it easiest to hit across the ball with a fade or hook loop. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: boaspirit
Date Posted: 05/05/2015 at 11:37pm
uh i dont think thats an option... not using my best serve just cus sometimes my opponent can return it with an improvise stroke, seems a bit timid and doesn't sound like something thats gonna help me improve. (actually i have tried this and its even worse because he'll do the same to my backspin or topspin serve,but only in certain range, using sidespin actually confuse him) is there a way to loop the return? ie 3rd ball attack? ------------- butterfly Timo Boll spirit FH TG3NEO BH vega Pro |
zeio wrote:Posted By: boaspirit
Date Posted: 05/05/2015 at 11:41pm
yes i actually do that all the time cus its part of my 3rd ball attack i loop all mid court to long return, but they end up netting. the sidespin push curves left to right (my view) so when i try to loop it sometimes fly to my left. ------------- butterfly Timo Boll spirit FH TG3NEO BH vega Pro |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/05/2015 at 11:52pm
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So hit the left side of the ball. If you hit the right side and it goes onto the net, you can either lift more on the right side or go to the left side. Or you can hit across the back of the ball. Remember, all you have to do is figure pit how the ball is spinning, contact it at the right Pont and then loop it. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 12:03am
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You can also let more spin come off tne ball and take it later. Usually, I try my forehand and then my backhand. One of them usually works. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: boaspirit
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 12:20am
------------- butterfly Timo Boll spirit FH TG3NEO BH vega Pro |
Posted By: bluehorseshoe
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 9:54am
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I'm no expert, but I have had a similar issue returning left handed serves. I would think of it like returning a serve with that spin. Probably requires a combination of moving to your right a little more than you think you need to and laying your wrist back (which will help hit the left side of the ball as NL suggested). Here's a Pingskills video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC0H6OLL_4M or http://www.pingskills.com/table-tennis/strokes-and-technique/forehand-flick/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Forehand%20Flick%20in%20HD&utm_content=Forehand%20Flick%20in%20HD+CID_10890700efdcd48434221e0e26f31fb9&utm_source=PingSkills%20Monthly%20Newsletter&utm_term=Click%20here%20to%20learn%20the%20forehand%20flick ------------- Feedback: Bluehorseshoe http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68077&PID=823122#823122 |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 10:01am
You are trying to power loop through the ball? Without even knowing how to spin it on the table? Interesting! Seriously, you can powerloop through the ball and hope you can overpower the spin but unless the ball is high and the spin is not heavy enough, this is pretty unreliable. I usually prefer to have an idea of what I am dealing with before trying to attack it aggressively. Once I know how to return it, I then look for more aggressive options. And realize, a proper loop never just "saves the ball". Topspin is always a form of pressure.
------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 1:07pm
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There's a thread on this within the last 6 months or so. It was about returning sidepin serves, so it's the same idea. Larry gave some really good advice. I can't find it though. ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 05/07/2015 at 12:53am
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This http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69199&title=looping-a-sidespin-ball" rel="nofollow - one ? ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 05/07/2015 at 1:52pm
That's it, thanks ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 05/08/2015 at 2:50pm
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Don't drive it, lift/brush with a more than open bat face than a loop, to all intents and purposes a 'dummy loop, they will then get all their sidespin back, I do this all the time and you can do it to any sidespin serve if it is long. ------------- The Older I get, The better I was. |
Posted By: boaspirit
Date Posted: 05/11/2015 at 3:50am
if it was a long serve id have no problem looping it cus im facing the table, but you know how when you serve your standing sideway, its hard when the sidespin is coming right into me as i turn back ------------- butterfly Timo Boll spirit FH TG3NEO BH vega Pro |
Posted By: boaspirit
Date Posted: 05/11/2015 at 3:55am
------------- butterfly Timo Boll spirit FH TG3NEO BH vega Pro |