Viscaria ST custom made.
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Topic: Viscaria ST custom made.
Posted By: kakapo
Subject: Viscaria ST custom made.
Date Posted: 05/20/2015 at 7:16am
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Maybe some MYTT members already knew it but I didn't. It is possible to order a Viscaria custom made blade with ST handle and BTY certificate here : http://www.saletabletennis.com/?product=butterfly-viscaria-custom-madespecial-limited-quantity" rel="nofollow - http://www.saletabletennis.com/?product=butterfly-viscaria-custom-madespecial-limited-quantity Of course, the price is  ------------- Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm |
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Posted By: panany
Date Posted: 05/20/2015 at 9:27am
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my friend send somes of this blade too... but more expensive than this website... for this blade this price is very good
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Posted By: Leftyy
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 10:41am
| Nice, if only I was rich... |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 11:20am
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@ panany: You think, that the price (358,80 USD) is "very good"? In my eyes this is outrageous. First they produce this blade only with one single handle (FL) and then they are waiting for guys like you, who are willing to pay 358 USD instead of 150 USD, only to get another handle for a "common" blade. On the top, they think, it is a good price.  Perfect strategy, if we buy it for this price.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 11:26am
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Yep, the lack of a Viscaria in straight handle is borderline stupid. People who buy at these prices create the borderline. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 12:19pm
Although expensive, it's new at least...  unlike ridiculously expensive black metal butterfly logo used ones, often contused, deformed 'n' dirty.------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 12:45pm
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For that price have you considered having Ross Leidy build one for you with the same composition. I have a great hunch Ross's version would be much nicer and have better woods etc.  ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 12:51pm
Old '60s and '70s Stiga blades are like the 1966 Shelby 427 Cobra. Old Viscarias are like a 2004 Honda Accord. Would you buy a 2004 Honda Accord if I charged you a Maserati price for it? ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Ray wrote:Posted By: benspin
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 12:57pm
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This price is ridiculous for one blade. I have a factory in China made viscaria-like blades for me for just $30 each. For my level, my play with this blade is not significantly different from mine with a Viscaria blade. IMHO, marketing makes people need more with illusion satisfaction in return. ------------- Life is so short, so do what you love while sharing with who around you. |
Posted By: benspin
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 12:59pm
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I wish this forum has a "like" button. ------------- Life is so short, so do what you love while sharing with who around you. |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 1:18pm
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There is a thanks button. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 2:09pm
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I have both Viscaria and TBS. Viscaria is a tic faster, is head heavy with slightly thicker handle. TBS has much better balance, feel, and control. Viscaria is a unique blade that is best for advanced players. Unless you train on a regular basis I see no advantage using Viscaria. Just my 2 cents. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 2:20pm
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Personally I can't see that Viscaria is for more advanced players than a TBS or TB-ALC (or a ZJK-ALC). Ideas about "balance, feel, and control" are matters of taste and what you are used to, but these blades, while not identical, are not that different. (Also, I have a bunch of Viscarias, and they are not identical, that's for sure). All of the non-Viscaria blades come in straight for a lot less money and whatever differences there are would be something you would very easily get used to in a few days at most. I wouldn't spend that much money for a straight Viscaria, (I would go for the TBS) but it's not that much crazier than the price of a super ZLC these days. I have always been curious about what it costs them to actually make one of these. |
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 3:16pm
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Buy a TB ALC ST or TBS ST instead. Same blade, way cheaper. The difference people feel between a Viscaria, TBS, and TB ALC are the same differences they would feel if they tried multiple samples of the same blade. ------------- 
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Posted By: panany
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 5:56pm
| haha i dont know this shop i never buy in this shop... just i know viscaria custom really better than commercial version... before in my club 1 chinese training with me.. and she get 1 blade viscaria custom in national team chinese... then i have try 1 time and custom model are really more fast and better feeling than commercial version |
Posted By: pgpg
Date Posted: 05/21/2015 at 10:33pm
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Would you be able to tell them apart in a blind test, i.e. without actually knowing that you are playing with a 'custom' one? Just wondering how much benefit here might be coming from pure placebo. ------------- USATT: ~1810 Butterfly Defense Alpha ST - H3 Neo - Cloud&Fog OX |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 05/22/2015 at 2:45am
Not more than $10... |
Posted By: panany
Date Posted: 05/22/2015 at 7:49am
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for sure not placebo^^ i know table tennis... im good player in france... not very very good ... but not bad too...^^ i dont know my ranking in USA i dont know what my level is in USA.. if someone know french ranking and usa ranking im curious know :) i can feel if 1 blade better than another ^^ and for sure custom viscaria very different than other viscaria :)
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 05/22/2015 at 9:51am
Well, TBH, I wouldn't buy the custom Viscaria or old black metal butterfy tag one under any circumstances. The same applies to the (S)ZLC blades. I thought if someone wants to waste 360usd, it'd be better spent on the brand new custom made Viscaria ST instead of used ordinary one with black tag. Black metal tag Vis, big deal. Even ZJK has a newer one. Or even better advice: buy cheaper blade and the difference up to 360usd donate to the Nepal or people in Africa. Make someone else happy, it will make you feel better, too. Also, I'm not nostalgic, sentimental or collector so I don't care about '60s or '70s Stigas either. Besides, I still have my grandfather's table tennis set I believe from the '40s. Are you interested in Ferrari 166 Inter Spider of TT blades? Offtopic regarding Shelby Cobra: maybe Jay Leno cares about that oldtimer. I'm drooling over 911 Turbo Cabriolet, 650C Spider and GranCabrio MC. And, of course, selling triple priced Accord or Avensis is obviously possible in table tennis as we are witnessing. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 05/22/2015 at 9:51am
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Viscaria are head heavy. Weight distribution not as good as TBS. Fact. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/22/2015 at 12:10pm
Entirely a matter of taste. Some people prefer blades head heavy. |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 05/22/2015 at 12:13pm
I own about 6 viscarias. And I can tell my two favorites from the others easily but none of them are custom. |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 05/22/2015 at 12:51pm
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Talk about hording xp ^ -------------  "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: benspin
Date Posted: 05/22/2015 at 1:39pm
This is the picture of my custom blades.
 ------------- Life is so short, so do what you love while sharing with who around you. |
Posted By: aunhh
Date Posted: 06/12/2015 at 4:33am
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This is my Viscaria custom made. I have ordered from Japan https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1424592011184146&set=pcb.1424592571184090&type=1&theater
------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/12/2015 at 11:59am
It is a thing of beauty  How is if different from regular ones that you buy from Btfly? Is the wood different? The weight? I once had a custom made one with a different handle. |
Posted By: chongqinghotpot
Date Posted: 06/12/2015 at 12:46pm
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I have owned 6 Vis blades and still keep and use 3 of them. They are all slightly different mainly due to their weights. Attracted by the hype of Vis custom blade, I ordered one in Jan with Butterflyonline.com. But unfortunately I have not received my special order yet because they could not find the right materials to satisfy my weight requirement of 93 grams. I personally prefer Vis to TBS (tried 3 of them), TB ALC (4 of them), TB T5000 (1) MM (2), and other less popular Butterfly blades after I switched from Stiga to Butterfly blades 3 years ago to better match Tenergies. ------------- USATT rating 2200 05Vis64 |
Posted By: aunhh
Date Posted: 06/15/2015 at 10:31pm
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I ordered Viscaria custom made from Japan. Custom: weight: 87gram, handle FL, good wood- fish scale ------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
Posted By: aunhh
Date Posted: 06/15/2015 at 10:32pm
I ordered Viscaria custom made from Japan. Custom: weight: 87gram, handle FL, good wood- fish scale ------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
Posted By: aunhh
Date Posted: 06/15/2015 at 10:33pm
It like Viscaria custom made ------------- Super ZLC Zhang Jike Razka 7 Razka 7 soft |
Posted By: unstopabl3
Date Posted: 07/03/2015 at 9:07am
Is it really worth paying extra for a fish scale wood design viscaria??? Does it play better than the simple one? Anybody knows about this? Here is a link: http://ttnpp.com/store/home/818-butterfly-viscaria--7.html#/weight-91_92g BTW is viscaria faster than TBS if two blades have same weight? |
Posted By: Trice
Date Posted: 07/03/2015 at 10:22pm
Seriously? I thought it was just the other way around. |
Posted By: leon Truong
Date Posted: 09/19/2017 at 11:23pm
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Hi friend Sale off butterfly blades on www.worldsports11.com www.tabletennispro11.com |
Posted By: timoboll86
Date Posted: 09/20/2017 at 6:32am
| Viscaria ST is very expensive now |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/20/2017 at 9:46am
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timoboll86 is almost certainly a bot (or someone acting just like one) Every single post it just made is meaningless, or nearly so, a few words, and was made within a 30 sec period. How do you post on about eight different threads within 30 secs? History now. |
Posted By: Simon_plays
Date Posted: 09/20/2017 at 9:51am
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The poster above him is the more serious spammer (Leon Truon, linking to those very dodgy websites). I think timoboll86 must have something to do with him. If you look at those for sale websites (ending in 11), they are almost certainly fake and need to be reported.
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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/20/2017 at 9:57am
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Simon, you are right, and he (or it) has repeatedly broken the rule about coming into other people's for sale threads to try to sell his own stuff. All within about a two minute period. Zapp. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 09/20/2017 at 4:27pm
The conversion is easy.   -------------  Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: king_pong
Date Posted: 09/21/2017 at 1:22am
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Very nice. Almost as nice as with Banda Dacota handle -- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/uploads/20752/IMG_1681_2.jpg" rel="nofollow - Dacota Viscaria ------------- Stiga Infinity VPS (Master): fh/bh - Nittaku Hammond CR max |
Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 09/21/2017 at 9:08pm
where is this website from? US or UK?
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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/22/2017 at 10:08pm
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There can't be many of those floating around. In fact, I had two made just like it, back when Btfly would still make custom blades to order. It turns out, I didn't like them and sold them for just under what they cost me to have them made (~$250 each). The guy who bought them turned around and put them on Ebay for 600 pounds sterling, each. At first I thought this might be one of those blades but the ones I had were serial number series P and the on that kakapo links to are N. Here is a picture of my old custom ST blades. I am pretty sure I would have liked the ones you guys made with Stiga and Banda handles better! The ST handles on my custom blades were very uncomfortable and very disappointing, and (it turns out) nothing like the ST handles on the original Viscara ST (something that really angered me).  |
Posted By: ttspirit
Date Posted: 09/23/2017 at 4:00am
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Hi Baal, do you still know the exact handle thickness and wideness of your 2 special ST Viscaria blades ? The wideness of old Viscaria ST handle is the biggest I have seen. It is too wide for normal big hands, also too wide for Timo Boll's hand. That's why butterfly came out with a new blade called Spirit ST. In the catalogue of the year around 2000 when this blade came out- there is short a lyric about the handle optimization. But butterfly will never tell the real dimensions. Spirit ST and ALC ST handle is somehow for smaller hands optimal- it seems to me that it was not build for normal average sized hands. |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/23/2017 at 8:47am
| I didn't measure. |