Durability of Evolution MX-P?
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Topic: Durability of Evolution MX-P?
Posted By: SmackDAT
Subject: Durability of Evolution MX-P?
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 1:49pm
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Hey guys, I'm planning to order some Evolution MX-P to test it out, after 2 years of not using it. I wanted to know how the durability is, as I usually stick with rubbers for 5-6 months. I remember that the rubber did have a steep drop-off compared to Tenergy, but that it was still playable after that drop-off. If anyone would like to share their experiences with the durability of MX-P it would be very much appreciated, as the price at Dandoy is super cheap currently (if you buy 4). Thanks, SmackDAT ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 2:07pm
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To me, durability is fantastic. MX-P loses its effect gradually as the sponge dries up. Keep a bottle of Falco Tempo Long handy and put a layer after 2 months. It behaves great with that booster and this really enhances the time period during which you can get maximum performance from the rubber. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 3:33pm
Haha, thanks, but I really don't want to add to the already heavy weight of MX-P by adding booster to the sponge :D Have you ever tried playing with MX-P for a prolonged period of time without booster though? What is the maximum (playable) time in hours? ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
slevin wrote:Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 4:36pm
Precisely 87 hours. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 4:38pm
Can you give us a batch-to-batch standard deviation as well?  ------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 4:46pm
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just glued a brand new mx-p on my blade! hope it will last 100 hours and no chiped edges. *wishful thinking* ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 4:56pm
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MX-P shrinks, people! ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 5:16pm
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i undercut it! ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: Carbon TT
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 5:22pm
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I think MX-P has good durability. It may a more noticeable amount of tuner affect in the first month or two but I feel like the decline tapers off after that. ------------- Primorac Carbon MX-P | EL-P |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 5:43pm
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it has better durability than a T05. I sinked and scratched with nails on both post-cut rubbers to test it. T05 ripped out on first try. MX-P lasted 6-7 scratches depending on angles. Not as good as Xiom Omega rubbers but much better than T05. The topsheet also feels like a T05(heavily boosted), sponge feels like a Omega(big pores). Gonna test drive it tonight along with my brand new O5P!!
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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 6:38pm
I find that almost irrelevant in choosing rubber. T05 shrinks just as much. If you don't roll your MX-P on blade, it won't shrink very much at all.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 7:25pm
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Or you can wait after an hour before sticking the rubber to the blade and when you use a roller do not press too much when you are roller the roller on the rubber ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 8:10pm
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I think it is reasonably durable (in actual play as opposed to scratching with a nail, it is about the same as Tenergy) and I never had a shrinking problem with MX-P. However, felt like the loss of factory boosting of MX-P was pretty rapid. I guess you can always re-boost it, but I was always too lazy to do that. I find Tenergy more stable over time. But without doubt, MX-P is excellent rubber. |
Posted By: Machine_Head
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 9:09pm
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Pardon the slight thread jacking, but does the MX-S also loses its tuner effect after some time? Thanks. |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 9:50pm
It does, but not until exactly 143 hours of play. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/03/2015 at 10:55pm
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no more, no less. |
Posted By: right2niru
Date Posted: 09/04/2015 at 12:17am
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Specifically about MX-P - durability of the sponge was great however top sheet lost it's consistency after 1st week and so the combination started to feel very different than how it felt the 1st week. From my experience all of the modern tensor's i have tried ( Donic , Tibhar , Andro) behave excellent out of the package for 1st week . After the 1st week each of them tend to show their differences either from sponge or top sheet , however once you get used to any of them that suits you they tend to last for a long time given their price. My BF series last me at least about 4 - 6 months with solid play of 4 days a week. ------------- ZJK SZLC |5Q+ |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 09/04/2015 at 9:51am
I'm sure it does. However, the tuner effect is much less pronounced than MX-P, so as it wears off it's much less noticeable. It doesn't feel like an immediate dip in performance.
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Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 09/04/2015 at 12:03pm
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Just have a full hour of forehand rally with the brand new MX-P last night. WOW. simply beautiful mechanics. It felt better than any other rubbers I have tried. Afterwards when I was cleaning the rubber I noticed a tiny speck of chip on the topsheet. Not sure if it was there before or not. I then used a 10x loupe to see and noticed a bunch of them in a line formation all over the topsheet. ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 09/04/2015 at 4:00pm
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Ahsq, What is your method for cleaning your rubbers? ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 09/04/2015 at 4:06pm
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wet non dripping Tork paper towel wiping one direction from base to tip. then air dry and put into ziplock bag. ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/04/2015 at 4:11pm
Where is that MX-S review you promised? ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 09/05/2015 at 10:59pm
I like this rubber too. But in your enthusissm keep in mind there iis a lot more that goes into TT than forehand counters! |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 09/05/2015 at 11:35pm
i tried other forehand rubber activities. MX-P is at least/better than other ESN rubbers I tried so far. and I tried about 5. Service, short push, smash(if I stroke correctly that is), lift backspin(thank the Lawwwd), and counter loop. Maybe it is new and newly glued on, the bounce/kick of this thing is uncanny! If anyone wants I can go into details on each of the strokes, but then other posters have already described them so well. ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: AgReZz
Date Posted: 09/06/2015 at 6:37am
| Can someone recommend good eshop in europe where can I buy Falco long booster? |
Posted By: shaame
Date Posted: 09/06/2015 at 6:43am
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tt11... ------------- H 3 Neo 2.2//Xiom Offensive S\\Xiom Vega Pro 2.0 |
Posted By: AgReZz
Date Posted: 09/06/2015 at 6:52am
| Thanks I was just browsing that shop when I read your post lol. |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 09/06/2015 at 12:13pm
Whoa, that's a very low centifatt rating for EJs. Only five??!! Let me list only what I'm sure I've tried off the top of my head (as if anyone would care but I'll amuse myself) Adidas: Tenzone Ultra Andro: Rasant Donic: Acuda S1, Acuda S2, Acuda S3, Baracuda, Bluefire M3, Bluefire JP03, Desto F3 Joola: Maxxx 400, Max 450 Palio: Blit'z, Thor's Tibhar: Aurus, Aurus Soft, MX-P Xiom: Vega Europe, Vega Pro, Omega IV Europe Yasaka: Rakza 7 Soft whoo hoo! that's 20. There's probably about seven more but I'd be guessing exactly which ones they were anywho... ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 09/06/2015 at 5:14pm
The five I actually owned. since you are into name throwing let me see what I can throw out here it goes..... .......nothing, I tried way too many for from other people's setup with different blades. ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |