Best blade for loopers
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Topic: Best blade for loopers
Posted By: big d
Subject: Best blade for loopers
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 11:55pm
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Hello people Hope u all r well. Just wanted ask what is the best blade for two winged loopers. I am an 1800 rated player and i think i need a new blade because my current blade (boll zlf) plays like its completely dead. ball just dies down right into to the net. any suggestions ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
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Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 12:00am
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feel free to rubbers and combinations into the mix ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: Argothman
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 12:22am
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Viscaria/Timo Boll ALC. |
Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 1:01am
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Are you saying the boll zlf is too slow for you? ------------- http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/models/hinokighost" rel="nofollow - BBC Hinoki Ghost http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74126&title=feedback-rocketman222" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 1:10am
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I am saying that the zlf that i have is off poor quality. it plays very different to other ones that i have tried of other players ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 2:14am
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if anyone knows big d personally, let him know that someone hacked his account ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 2:23am
What happened, buddy? ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
big d wrote:Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 11:33am
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I think I got a fake timo boll zlf ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 11:40am
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For pure looping game I say 5-pliers are the best blades. And among 5-pliers I liked most DHS Hurricane Hao and Nittaku Violin.
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Posted By: bes
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 11:57am
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Define "Best". Now define "Best for you". Fastest? Most control? Spinniest? Best feel? Best handle? Best balance? Best weight? Best brand? Best model? Best generation of specific model? I suspect that "functionally best" is a specific blend of the above that happens to hit your individual sweet spot. Try some (or a bunch if you like) blades and figure out what, in general you like and don't like. Pick one you like. bes
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 12:56pm
Did someone here sell it to you? Don't lose sleep over it. If you don't know what you are looking for, I can bring you a few to test. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: assam
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 1:47pm
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Try some OSP virtuoso + At least there aren't fakes at this moment and they play really great. |
Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/10/2015 at 8:35pm
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Thanks nextLevel c ya soon ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 2:37am
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rubbers and "legs-abdominal muscles-arm-wrist" coordination and technique are much more important than blades for looping But...some blades are really not good for looping. Otherwise, for looping, I like the old Korbels, the acoustic...... ------------- Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm |
Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 2:41am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89yUZWz1XWQ i am the guy in the white shirt. skip to 1.10 to c me loop ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: p1ngp0ng3r
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 6:16am
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As far as I can see, you tend to hit the ball pretty late when you loop. One of my teammembers does that too and when he switched to rubbers with more catapult, his loops became more dangerous. I'm a two wing looper and the Joola Rossi Emotion (or the new Aruna, which is the same) is one of my favorite blades. Think it would nicely fit your game. Good luck (and have fun) testing some blades. ------------- Infinity VPS - Hybrid MK - T25 FX |
Posted By: CraneStyle
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 7:32am
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The Boll ZLF does make looping easy, it is quite flexible but lacks a bit of penetrating power ... I suspect you would like a stiffer feeling blade, of which there are many options in the ALC/ ZLC ranges and clones... ------------- 1. Mizutani Jun ZLC, FH T80, BH T05 |
Posted By: MLfan
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 8:49am
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Try the Hurricane Long 5. It's really an awesome blade. Pure wood feel with carbon power. |
Posted By: assam
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 10:28am
I have one for sale as new  |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 12:28pm
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Also extremely head heavy and takes getting used to. I agree the feel is excellent. But there are cheaper great ALC blades out there. I am using one of them. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 1:15pm
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Are Viscaria, zjk and zjk alc good blades for looping purposes? can anyone tell me the difference in playing characterestics of these blades and tbs? Thanks ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 1:21pm
Depending on what you are trying to do, they may or may not be. Let's discuss this tomorrow. IF you want to bore yourself, but understand a lot, start here: https://thoughtsontabletennis.wordpress.com/2015/04/25/introduction-to-table-tennis-blade-design/ The more knowledgeable EJs will say similar things in simpler English. Otherwise, it's much easier to walk around your club and borrow other people's stuff and hit with it for 5 minutes than to talk to people on the internet. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 1:23pm
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Well said nextLevel. ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: BRS
Date Posted: 10/11/2015 at 2:38pm
| Borrow NL's Tibhar power wood. I used a Boll ZLF for a long time (not fake), and I immediately loved that power wood. |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 8:57am
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Hurricane long 5. Big d with hurricane long 5. Pause, is it me or does that sound wrong lmao. -------------  "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: chroot
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 9:28am
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Power wood is an awesome blade for looping. But if you need a little more power, get an Adidas Avenger 7. ------------- BTY Viscaria 90g DHS Hurricane 3 NEO, 39/2.1 BTY Tenergy 05 1.9 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62263" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 10:03am
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Avalox p500? Stiga off classsic? ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 10:31am
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Big D is a higher level player than many/most of the players on this site (that is what 1800 tends to mean). He just needs to hit with enough blades to realize that blades don't do anything special for your game and come down to familiarity and personal preference once a few basic criteria are met. That will either make him feel better about his current blade or encourage him to get something else and use it for a while. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: assam
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 10:39am
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If blades don't do anything special to your game why did you try so many and keep changing them? Of corse you can find blades very different, in terms of spin generation, control, speed, hardness, or how they behave at each players hand
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 10:43am
Because I enjoy buying and playing with blades and I like being able to speak from first hand experience about them. I have not improved my rating whenever I changed a blade. If I did, the blade did something special. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: assam
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 10:53am
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By that point of view, probably if you play with old Srivers and get used to them you would also kept your raking. Everybody knows that the blade/rubbers won't do miracles, but some will help a lot to one kind of players and other will be better for other players. That is why I'm saying that if he tries different blades he would choose one he likes better, maybe just in his mind, but that is also a part of the game. When he chooses one certain blade composition, then he just needs to try from different brands to see which fits him better
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Posted By: assam
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 11:03am
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In my case, I began by choosing the out layer between koto, limba and hinoki (never tried others like rosewood or walnut), then the composition (changed my preferences for the plastic ball) and then I ask OSP to make me a customized blade (which I love). It could have worked badly, but not in my case |
Posted By: CraneStyle
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 11:18am
Great EJ confession... It's 2015... Who said "no more EJ'ing in 2015"... Answer: Most of us...  ------------- 1. Mizutani Jun ZLC, FH T80, BH T05 |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 11:28am
Maybe it should read "the rest of 2015". I am set on my current setup for the rest of 2015. I have used it for month and a half now and since Tenergy 05 prices have gone up and I have 4 spare sheets, it is going to be pretty hard to change to the alternative for a year. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 11:43am
Which is exactly what I said but you just didn't like how I said it. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: assam
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 12:15pm
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Perhaps I didn't understand it that way It's not about like it or not
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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 12:30pm
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Beginners, by nature, tend to choose blades that are too fast for them. There are many short term justifications, including shorter strokes and ability to hit winners when out of position. Allowing beginners to try everyone's equipment and pick what they like usually isn't a good idea. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: assam
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 12:47pm
| Yah, but "big d" doesn't seems to be a begginer... |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 12:51pm
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I think under the guidance of an informed player, it is actually a good idea. Being attracted to the wrong things when inexperienced is not unique to table tennis. It's all tied to misconceptions about what it takes to do well and thinking more of something is always better. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 12:54pm
I appreciate that assam ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: CraneStyle
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 1:21pm
... Famous last words... Just some humour that I thought a lot of us could relate to... That reminds me. I must update my signature to represent what I am using now... On topic, there's nothing wrong with knowing the range of blade speeds that are available... I have tried "a few" blades including some club mates blades that felt like toys to me...  ------------- 1. Mizutani Jun ZLC, FH T80, BH T05 |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 1:33pm
You snuck in a post between mine and the post I was replying to. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 at 10:47pm
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had a great session of ping pong with nextLevel today, afterwhich i have decided to keep using my old timo boll spirit t05 and t64. the setup is a little fast but i think i will be able to adjust to how it plays. i also wanted to thank everyone for sharing views and opinions. ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: CraneStyle
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 2:09am
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big d - Nice one... Don't be surprised that your experience with the TB ZLF has enhanced your appreciation for the TB Spirit... It's a great setup and you've got a good keen training buddy with NextLevel to keep you on point... Enjoy! ...  ------------- 1. Mizutani Jun ZLC, FH T80, BH T05 |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 4:16am
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DHS Hurricane Long 1..... ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: AgReZz
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 7:15am
| Viscaria for the rest of my life. |
Posted By: vivan4tt
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 12:31pm
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5 ply allwood are the best looping blades in terms of feel and feedback. If feeling and good high throw is what you ssek, you can consider many 5 ply blades. Limba is the most common outer ply for loopers, you can consider many blades, the most common composition is limba-limba-ayou-limba-limba and blades of this composition are available in every budget and certainly manufactured by most brands : from the cheap (but very good ones) like Joola K5 or Donic Waldner senso to the expensive ones like a made in Japan Butterfly Korbel or the Nittaku Acoustic. You can't go wrong with those blades if you want a good looping blade, this composition is here for decades and has please all kind of loopers. Of course many other 5 ply blades are also the "looper's dream", but unless you are more specific, it will be hard to guide you to a more specific 5 ply allwood blade. ------------- Mizutani sZLC / T05fx / T05fx |
Posted By: Ciprian
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 2:28pm
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TSP Gaia was the best looping blade I've played. ------------- Xi Enting FH-Aurus Sound BH- Pryde 30 |
Posted By: Danzors
Date Posted: 10/14/2015 at 5:23pm
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Infinity VPS really made me smile when I changed from Kido 7p. HUGE sweetspot, great feeling, solid pace. ------------- Tibhar KJH Xiom Vega Pro |
Posted By: flash
Date Posted: 10/15/2015 at 3:42pm
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I think Timo Boll Alc it is the best blade for topspin from both sides...with T05 fh/bh you can blow your opponent but you must have some skills. ------------- Viscaria, FL T05 hard, 2,1 mm, black, fh T05 hard, 2,1 mm, red, bh. |
Posted By: looneylooper
Date Posted: 10/15/2015 at 10:45pm
| And it had to be FL handle right? |
Posted By: Avallo
Date Posted: 10/15/2015 at 11:09pm
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IMHO vote for Stiga Ebenholz V great dwell time but powerful ------------- an indonesian tennis table maniac http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73216&title=feedback-avallo" rel="nofollow - MY FEEDBACK |
Posted By: big d
Date Posted: 10/16/2015 at 1:41am
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is emerald vps good for looping? ------------- petr korbel fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
Posted By: Olio
Date Posted: 10/16/2015 at 6:05am
| Have you tried a Clipper? A great do-it-all blade, with a small price, and certainly a blade loopers love. |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 10/16/2015 at 7:04am
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I wouldn't call emerald vps v or Clipper as looping blades - I'd reserve that moniker for a 5-ply limba-limba-ayous-limba-limba construction. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 10/16/2015 at 9:23am
| The original Nexy Calix. Huge dwell, flexy, dual impact at its best. |