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Topic: BBC (Charlie)
Posted By: victorm
Subject: BBC (Charlie)
Date Posted: 12/01/2015 at 11:47pm
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Hi forum members Does anyone have any information when BBC (Charlie) will start making blades again? As per his website, the last message posted is from May 2014 in which he said: I have lost my shop lease so I'm taking a break from blade making until such time that I can reestablish operations. I have played with some of his blades in the past and his workmanship is extremely good so was keen to try his other blades.. Hope a member from California will know! |
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/02/2015 at 10:51am
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Charlie probably has some blades (and blanks) left over from the good old days. Try contacting him by email and ask him if he has something that interests you. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 12/02/2015 at 12:59pm
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ran into him at iTableTennis in albany a while ago and he plays league at Concord TTC occasionally :)
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/02/2015 at 2:34pm
Albany, NY? Charlie lives and plays in CA... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
in2spin wrote:Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 12/02/2015 at 2:56pm
Probably Albany, CA (near Berkeley).  ------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 12/02/2015 at 3:15pm
My last order from him was about 2 years ago for an Envil with size and shape copy from a Hurricane King. It's an awesome blade for a combo setup.
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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 12/02/2015 at 5:58pm
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yes, albany, california and concord, california sorry not to post clearly :)
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Posted By: victorm
Date Posted: 12/02/2015 at 6:59pm
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Thanks JimT - I have emailed him.. in2spin - did he indicate if and when he'll start making blades again? |
Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 12/03/2015 at 7:53am
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when I saw him at iTableTennis it was the first time in many years. unfortunately for this thread that subject didn't come up. he is a super friendly guy. I would think and believe he would be accommodating to anybody's request if it were possible, time permitting for him he made me a carbon blade way back in the day...25 yrs ago? he back then already was customizing handles, weights (head heavy, handle heavy), head shapes, overall weights. he also made a "2 speed" blade - back then (!!) - - faster on fh, and control on bh with different woods. he'd ask you what kind of rubber you were going to use specifically then construct the blade to your specs.....way way ahead of his time, imo and he did a remarkable patching job on a wrecked power drive I had, and he added some super thin 3 ply plywood to protect an old single ply judas wood j/k blade that had a hairline fracture. he does remarkable work :) |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/03/2015 at 11:22am
Charlie is truly a grandmaster of blade-making. I have used his blades for almost 4 years now, and in the last two years I am playing with nothing but his blades - highly customized light version of his 9-10-9 line called Tachyon (OFF/OFF+), and all-wood Blaster (OFF). Great control and enough speed for yours truly. I currently have six of his blades but I went through about 20 of them testing and playing etc - some of them I sold, some traded. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: victorm
Date Posted: 12/03/2015 at 1:16pm
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Thanks JimT and in2spin - we need to convince him to start making blades again soon :) |
Posted By: nathanso
Date Posted: 01/11/2016 at 8:37pm
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He's back! http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/" rel="nofollow - www.bladesbycharlie.com ------------- BBC, SP, LP |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/12/2016 at 9:16am
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Charlie is back and he has been making blades for me to test and sell at my club. I've posted some pics of the blades that I really like. One of them we decided to call Excalibur. This is an 11-ply carbon blade that is great for looping. The other blade I really like that I'm currently playing with is called Flash Drive 3.0. It's a 7-ply blade that has 2 thin layers of carbon. I would rate this blade an Off- blade. I was playing with Stiga Clipper but I play much better with this blade as it has more control and better feel than the Clipper. The other thing that I would say about Charlie is that the handles on his blades are the most comfortable handles I've ever played with. Everyone should just send their current blade of choice to Charlie to let him make a new handle for them! ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/12/2016 at 9:07pm
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So exciting! I've already ordered one. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/13/2016 at 10:34am
Great! In the last two-three weeks I had been testing a new blade of his - called Quad-Trip. Perhaps I should send it to someone else who is in need of (OFF-) blade with slight vibration. I do not like vibration blade at all even if vibration is next to non-existent. If you are in US-48 and interested, let me know. I will email Charlie and ask him what is his preference. maybe he would prefer me to simply mail it back. Blade's weight is 82-83 g, shakehand FL handle. Thickness around 6.7-6.8 mm with 4 cypress layers and three super-thin special carbon layers between them (Charlie calls that material "nano-carbon", I think). ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/13/2016 at 11:35am
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Hey Jim, Myself and another player have a Quad-Trip as well and he's been playing more with it since he's more of a defensive player. It does have vibration, and although it's a very nice blade I play much better with the Flash Drive and Excalibur. I really wanted to like the Quad-Trip, but it has a lower throw angle than the other 2 blades I mentioned, and it doesn't have as solid a feel either due to the very thin carbon layers. Just curious what you think about the blade? One thing I did just do however is order 2 sheets or classic hard rubber as I think the Quad-Trip would be a good hard-bat blade to play with. I'm probably around 1900+ as a hard bat player and even though I don't play with it much I do like to hit with it from time to time with some of the 1600 - 1800 players to get them to play more consistently as I can get a lot of balls back playing hard bat. The guy that got me into table tennis was a classic hard-bat player that was rated in the Top 20 in the US many, many moons ago. Playing with him really helped me improve my game, especially against choppers. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/13/2016 at 3:04pm
I actually think Quad-Trip has a higher throw angle than most of my blades. That probably depends on the rubbers' choice, I guess. Also has a little extra catapult which - due to my style - I am not used to. Other than that I quite liked it. And as you said - handle is superb; extremely convenient. I think that in that aspect Charlie's blades are second to none, and I have tried 30-40 different blades of more than a dozen brands. Very good control, upper levels of (OFF-) speed range, closer to OFF than to ALL+. I asked Charlie and he is OK with someone else taking over the further testing. So if any trustworthy forummer (US-48 please; unless you are willing to pay the extra postal fees) would like to get Quad-Trip for testing (or to buy it) - let me know; I will mail it to you. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/13/2016 at 9:10pm
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Do you know of any new blade(s) with nano-carbon by Charlie is in the range of OFF/OFF+? ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/13/2016 at 10:03pm
Specifically with nanocarbon? not sure. Maybe that Excalibur is made with it? - let AcudaDave answer that question. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/13/2016 at 11:36pm
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Charlie can vary the core thickness of the Excalibur to make it off - off+ if you like. The normal thickness is 5.9 but he made mine 6.0 th speed things up a bit. Just tell Charlie you want an off Excalibur and he can make the core slighter thicker. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/13/2016 at 11:59pm
Is the Excalibur one of the new blades that Charlie mentioned with nano-carbon? My playing style is similar to Ma Long (but of course not somewhere near his level) which is looping on both sides. I intend to purchase a new blade to replace my current one. Since I am new to custom blade, I am looking at something which perform similar to Butterfly Viscaria. I am currently looking at OSP and BBC blades. Any experts can advise or recommend? Thanks. ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 2:29pm
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My 2200+ practice partner/nemesis plays with a Viscaria as he likes a solid blade that has pretty good control, and he thought the Excalibur played very well. My son (just turned 15 this week), is 1700+ looper both sides and he now plays with the Excalibur. The 5.9 mm core is a prefect blade for looping both sides. Charlie can make the core 6.0 mm or more to add speed to the blade but then it becomes more of a hitter's blade. The Viscaria and Excalibur both have Balsa cores with Koto outer plies so both are very similar. Charlie's Excalibur is $125 and Butterfly's is $150. You get a great selection of handles (the flared with scoop is amazing), and you are helping support local craftsmen. So take the extra $25 you will save and buy a box of Nittaku Premiums and play with Excalibur as it's a wonderful blade! ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 3:12pm
Viscaria does NOT have a balsa core! ------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 3:56pm
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According to the description on Butterflyonline.com it states the following: Viscaria FL •Combines Arylate fiber features of lightness, flexibility, and shock absorption with the Carbon fiber features of high elasticity and minimal dissipation of energy. •Koto outer plies & Balsa core. •Viscaria's compact head size makes it ideal for quick re-looping right off the bounce. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 4:14pm
I know what it says and it has been discussed in various forums many time but I believe it is a mistake. Viscaria is too heavy for balsa, it doesn't look like balsa (but kiri) and it doesn't play like balsa. All the other ALC blades which play quite similar like TB ALC, M.Maze or ZJK ALC have kiri cores. Also, BTY websites of other countries for example Germany do not say it is balsa. ------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 4:23pm
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hmmm...they really need to get this info right. When I hit with my friends Viscaria it didn't feel too much different from Charlie's Excalibur. thanks for the info Matt...what do the other BTY websites say it is? Do they list it as Kiri? ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 4:40pm
I actually just checked the German and British sites and it does not say at all what the core is but it doesn't say balsa either. ------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 4:42pm
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http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63360&title=blade-composition-list
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Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 4:50pm
Thanks! So indeed Viscaria has the same composition as TB ALC, TBS and ZJK ALC, which makes sense because they play so similar. M.Maze actually has ayous core. ------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 4:54pm
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Matt Pimple is right: the Viscaria core is kiri, NOT balsa !!! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 5:03pm
And what's kiri ? Kind of balsa wood, right?  |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 5:11pm
Not right! Different family of trees.Kiri: Paulowniaceae family Balsa: Malvaceae family And here is what you can find on OOAK regarding kiri and comparison to balsa: "kiri: (aka Paulownia, Royal Paulownia, Princess Tree, Empress Tree); A light weight, soft but very tight and torsionally stiff type of wood, mainly used as core veneer. (Almost every Butterfly table tennis blade that is made in Japan has a Kiri core.) More durable, heavier and harder than balsa. (This is one of the main reasons why Butterfly blades are heavier than other manufacturer's blades.) Density .26-35 gm per cubic centimeter. Janka: 250; SG: .26; PCF: 16 This wood is from the Paulownia family. It’s a bit over double the hardness of balsa, but it remains very light-weight. This is a great core wood for faster blades with heavier medial and outer plies. Just like balsa, it cuts down on vibration and makes a blade with a little less feeling than something made with a wood like cypress; just like balsa, it cuts down on vibration and makes a blade with a little less feeling than something made with a wood like cypress; Janka: 250; SG: .26; PCF: 16" ------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Tassie52
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 5:30pm
Balsa: Chroma pyramidale Janka: 90; SG: .12; PCF: 9
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 6:00pm
Judging by this http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74034&PID=913189&title=bbc-excalibur#913189" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74034&PID=913189&title=bbc-excalibur#913189 yes, it is made with nano-carbon. Interesting that there is no vibration, right? All the blades with nano-carbon I tried had some vibration - however in this case, probably because it has so many layers, the blade is stiffer because of 10 layers of glue. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 7:24pm
Thanks. Anyone know if Charlie is back in business? ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: victorm
Date Posted: 01/14/2016 at 8:27pm
I'll wait to see the new line of blades he will have over the next few weeks! Hopefully soon!
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Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 2:57am
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I'd be really interested in charlie's take/improvement on the clipper, does he have any 7ply wood blades? ------------- http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/models/hinokighost" rel="nofollow - BBC Hinoki Ghost http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74126&title=feedback-rocketman222" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 7:36am
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Rocketman that's the blade I'm playing with by Charlie. It's a 7-ply blade with 2 thin carbon layers and it's called Flashdrive 3.0. It weighs about 85 gms but he can vary the weight a little depending on what you like. I was playing with the clipper for several months and although I played ok I kept losing to a 2150-2200 looper. I just didn't have the feel with the Clipper I had with other blades. I contacted Charlie and he sent me the Flashdrive. I beat that looper 3-0 the first time I played him with it. The blade has plenty of power but it has much better control/feel than the Clipper. I'm playing much better now after switching to Charlie's blade. He sells it for $80 and it's worth every penny. The handle is also the best I've ever had. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 10:45am
Dave, could you give us a short review on the FlashDrive blade? Is it stiff or flexy, how thick it is, does it have any vibration, are the outers soft or hard, how's the short game, do you know the woods used for it etc. And of course your impressions on different types of strokes, control/speed etc. Thanks! ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 11:17am
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I love the FlashDrive 3.0 blade! It's a 7-ply thin fairly stiff blade that has good control. I would rate it about Off- as far as speed goes. It has 2 thin plies of carbon, and hard koto outer plies. I was playing with Stiga Clipper and doing ok, but just didn't have the great feel I had been used to, so I began looking for an alternative. Decided to give Charlie a call, and timing must have just been right as he was ready to start making blades again. He sent me this FlashDrive and I immediately started playing better with it as I had better feel/control, but still plenty of power to finish the point with. I used to play with a Donic Burn Aratox RS Carbon blade that was similar in weight/thickness/feel, but I think this blade is even better for me as it has slightly more power/throw angle. You were spot on about the Quad-Trip in saying that it has too much vibration and sometimes is a bit springy. I came to the same conclusion, so I didn't really care for it as much. But the FlashDrive doesn't have that springy feeling and it's perfect for hitting. Charlie said it was more of a hitting blade, but I've played great with the Rhyzm Tech on my BH with it. I tend to brush loop and spin it more than drive it and it's been great for that as well. The best part though is it only sells for $80, and you know how great his handles are. To sum it up it's a solid-feeling blade that has plenty of power, but still has good touch/control. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 4:49pm
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AcudaDave, would you be able to compare it to say Timo Boll ALC(my current blade), as i do find it to have enough vibration/feel. Plus doesn't having nano-carbon, like any other carbon dampen the feel? ------------- http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/models/hinokighost" rel="nofollow - BBC Hinoki Ghost http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74126&title=feedback-rocketman222" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 4:57pm
Hm, 3 days ago I tried to contact him (with email), but up to now he did not answer.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: LOG1C1AN
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 4:58pm
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Charlie called me today to get my address to ship out my new Flashdrive 3.0. |
Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 5:56pm
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LOG1C1AN , you are in LA, where do you play? ------------- http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/models/hinokighost" rel="nofollow - BBC Hinoki Ghost http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74126&title=feedback-rocketman222" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: LOG1C1AN
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 7:24pm
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I'm in the SFV. A couple of days a week at Allen & Sons, and a couple of days at the Vietnamese Community Center, and once in a while at Balboa Park. You are welcome to test drive the Flashdrive once it arrives if you want to meet up. |
Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 8:09pm
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That'd be awesome, i m in SFV too, i usually go play @ LATTA, i must know you if you play at the temple in lincoln heights? ------------- http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/models/hinokighost" rel="nofollow - BBC Hinoki Ghost http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74126&title=feedback-rocketman222" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: LOG1C1AN
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 8:46pm
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I've heard of latta of course, but I've never heard of the temple. Send me a PM with contact info and I'll let you know once the blade arrives. |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 10:12pm
How is the FlashDrive as compared to the Excalibur? ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 10:37pm
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Flashdrive is a little faster and Charlie thinks of it being more of a hitting blade. I like the Flashdrive but the Excalibur is probably better for looping. I also think the Excalibur has more gears, but they are both great blades. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 11:19pm
Thanks. ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/16/2016 at 8:33am
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Correct me if I am wrong. Currently there are 3 new blades by BBC as follows: Quad-Trip (OFF- to OFF/ALL+) - 82-83 g Composition: 7 plys (4 cypress layers + 3 nano-carbon layers) Thickness: 6.7-6.8 mm FlashDrive 3.0 (OFF-) - 85g Composition: 7 plys (5 koto layers + 2 nano-carbon layers) Thickness: ? Excalibur (ALL+/OFF-) Composition: 11 plys (4 koto layers + 2 blasa layers + 1 carbon + 4 nano-carbon layers) Thickness: 5.9 mm
------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/16/2016 at 9:38am
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Yep that's correct. The wood layers of the Flashdrive are koto as well. They are a dyed "rock" koto. He also uses Wenge wood in the handles as this wood is good at being water resistant. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/16/2016 at 10:11am
I saw your review and pictures for Excalibur. Are the dyed wood a special kind of koto? ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/16/2016 at 12:43pm
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FlashDrive is OFF-? slower than, say, Korbel? ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/16/2016 at 9:47pm
Sorry for my late response.... but only ST for me, even when just testing ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/16/2016 at 10:58pm
I received an Attack JR yesterday. I can't believe how nice Charlie's blades are. I ordered another just now. This time the Attack I shape. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: victorm
Date Posted: 01/16/2016 at 11:28pm
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Really nice - which blade model is this? |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/16/2016 at 11:30pm
the All Around ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/17/2016 at 11:52am
How slow (ALL?) is the All-Around ? ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/17/2016 at 6:08pm
This ATTACK JR was for a friend and doesn't have my typical rubbers on it. But from a brief hit with this one and from the ones I tried in the past, I think ALL+ might be fair. Or perhaps ALL. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/17/2016 at 9:34pm
What is the lead time from you order till you received your blade? ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/17/2016 at 9:53pm
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Ordered on Tuesday, received on Friday. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/17/2016 at 11:03pm
Nice. I dropped an email last Wednesday and no reply yet.  ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 1:05am
I am waiting 5 days now, but still no reaction to my email  although he knows me and although I bought 1-2 blades from him in the past. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 1:45am
The above 3 blades are available at BBC Online Store but no details yet! ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/19/2016 at 11:40pm
Any luck on your side with the email? ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 12:41am
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No. Nothing. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 1:24am
Are you checking your spam folder? ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 10:56am
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Yes, I am getting a daily message about new emails in my spam folder. This evening I will send him another email. Maybe he did not notice my first message. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 11:11am
Does Charlie reply to emails previously? ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 12:32pm
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I should say that when I communicated with Charlie, it turned out that emails from my Hotmail account went somewhere into the void of WWW - probably has something to do with how his email account is set up for junk and stuff. Then I switched to GMail and everything was fine. So my advice is to use GMail or at least try to use your other email provider (hope you have more than one). ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 12:33pm
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Just send Charlie a text message if you're able to as he's usually quicker about responding to text messages. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 4:26pm
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Okay. Now he got 3 additional emails from 3 different email-accounts ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 6:21pm
I expect you'll get a response soon. He's very timely with communication. Must have been some gliche before. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 7:14pm
Thank you for the advice. ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 10:39am
I am in contact with him now. Se everything is fine.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 10:41am
Good to hear that and same for me. ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 10:44am
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According to him, there will be a new blade head shape coming very soon. ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 11:11am
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We came up with a slightly larger blade head (~ 1/16th longer/wider), which adds a little more flex, or resonance as Charlie likes to call it. The slightly larger head we decided to call a "P" head for the Plastic ball. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 3:22pm
You guys owe me a bottle of champagne! ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 01/22/2016 at 1:05am
Thanks Jim. It seems so, but in an other way that you think, because Charlie answered to my first email (gmx). Nevertheless your advice (to use an other email-account) helped, because I "spammed" him with 3 additional emails. Maybe as result of these additional emails he gave up (to ignore my email) because he feared to get 10 more emails next week.  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: tropic1
Date Posted: 01/29/2016 at 11:24am
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the_theologian. I'm interested in trying out the Quad-Trip if you still have it. Its the typical weight range I like my blades to be. Please message me on how to get it from you. Thank you. Roger ------------- Main Blade - BTY Viscaria - FH BtyT05 Max/BH Bty T80 Max BBC Hinoki Ghost - FH/BH Bty T05FX Blade - Donic Waldner Ultra Senso Carbon AN - Rakza 7 Max/Tenergy 05FX Max |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/29/2016 at 11:58am
Must me a mix up somewhere. I never had it ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 01/29/2016 at 12:11pm
It was JimT who posted for testers and the current person holding onto that blade should be jt99sf (if no change). http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74206&title=testers-buyers-wanted-bbc-quadtrip" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74206&title=testers-buyers-wanted-bbc-quadtrip
------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: tropic1
Date Posted: 01/29/2016 at 12:42pm
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Thank you Renol. ------------- Main Blade - BTY Viscaria - FH BtyT05 Max/BH Bty T80 Max BBC Hinoki Ghost - FH/BH Bty T05FX Blade - Donic Waldner Ultra Senso Carbon AN - Rakza 7 Max/Tenergy 05FX Max |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 02/03/2016 at 8:42pm
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Just to sidetrack. My advice to Charlie is to stay away from using USPS as their customer service is very bad. ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 02/03/2016 at 9:27pm
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Another blade coming soon: LoopMaster 3.0. I think I already posted this earlier. 7-ply blade with 2 carbon layers, soft Obeche, and Avi core. This blade is really good, especially for looping. You would like this blade Jim. [URL= ][/URL] ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 02/03/2016 at 9:29pm
 Hopefully you can see the pic of the LoopMasters. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 02/04/2016 at 3:10am
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Updated the list. Type: ALL+ / OFF- / OFF Composition: 7 plys (4 cypress layers + 3 nano-carbon layers) FlashDrive 3.0 Type: OFF- Composition: 7 plys (5 koto layers + 2 nano-carbon layers) Excalibur Type: ALL+ / OFF- Composition: 11 plys (4 koto layers + 2 blasa layers + 1 carbon + 4 nano-carbon layers) LoopMaster 3.0 Type: ALL+ / OFF- Composition: 7 plys (4 Obeche layers + 2 nano-carbon layers + Avi core) I removed the thickness and weight since they can be customized according to individuals' requirement.
------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 02/10/2016 at 8:52pm
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Just a advice for those who want to purchase a blade from BBC but stay outside of US. Request to Charlie not to use USPS. According to Charlie, my blade was shipped on 25 Jan 2016, Monday morning. The item tracking is still in transit since its departure from USPS Facility on 28 Jan 2016 morning till date. I have checked with USPS - their reply is unable to check once the item is out of their facility and told me to check with my local postal service which I did and the item has not arrived at my local postal service. It has been 10 business days and totally no news on the whereabouts of my item. ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 02/14/2016 at 10:21pm
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My advice for those who are outside of US but want to purchase a blade from BBC to put on hold first. Either you request for a reputable courier that is able to track from end-to-end or take the risk that the blade may never reach your side. I am requesting Charlie to file a claim as I am unable to do that from my end. I have called and emailed Charlie but no one pick up the phone or reply to email (last reply was 27 Jan 2016). Anyone who know him in person is able to help? Thank you. ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: lineup32
Date Posted: 02/15/2016 at 2:50pm
Very early to worry given since its an international shipment. I ordered something from Japan in the same time frame and it is still in transit only shows that it arrived at the outward bound duty station in Japan. Delay's are common other times shipments arrive in record time. If it does not show up by end of Feb in your tracking give me a PM and I will talk to Charlie.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/15/2016 at 3:02pm
1) Mailing something by trackable package with FEDEX or DHL will cost you additional 40-50 dollars 2) I have waited once almost two months for a small package from Hongkong (1 rubber, I think). Another time I mailed a package to Israel and instead of 1 week it took more than 4 weeks, most of that time was spent inside Israel's post system. So it's not really a USPS problem. It just happens once in a while. As long as you know that the package was actually shipped... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 02/15/2016 at 9:05pm
According to Charlie and USPS website, it stated 6 to 10 business days. Thanks for your help!
By the way, I am already paying additional 40 dollars for the shipment. According to USPS tracking system, the item has been in transit since 28 Jan 2016. It departed USPS Facility so does it mean that the item has left the country? I have not use USPS before so I am not sure how it works. I checked with USPS and their reply is " Unfortunately once the item leaves the U.S. we have no further information that would be available. I would recommend that you contact your Postal Service to possibly obtain additional information" which I did and the the item has not reach my country Postal Service. It should not take so long to to reach my country unless it is not shipped by air freight.  ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/15/2016 at 10:03pm
Really? That sounds a bit too much. As far as I recall from shipping blades overseas, without tracking or insurance it was about 12 dollars. So 40 dollars should have bought you one or the other. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 02/15/2016 at 11:16pm
========================== JimT is right. I found a post of mine (it was slightly more than a year ago), here it is: Actual experience: Mailing a blade to South Africa Use: "First-Class Package International Service" Weight: 7 Oz Mailing cost: $12.15 (does not include insurance) (The value of the blade is declared as $45.) Bought insurance for that: $13.65 --------------------------------- Even if the value is $200, rather than $45, the insurance premium remains the same. Btw, it took more than 2 months for the guy to receive the blade. $40 is too expensive. ------------- skip3119 |
Posted By: lineup32
Date Posted: 02/16/2016 at 1:27am
| The blade Charlie shipped was returned to Charlie due to the address given by the buyer was not correct. Charlie is trying to contact the buyer and get his correct address. The Paypal address was not verified. So this is not an issue about USPS but the buyer providing an incorrect address. |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 02/16/2016 at 2:54am
In his initial emails, he mentioned tracking and insurance but based on the tracking number no tracking is confirmed but not sure about insurance.
Thank you lineup32. I just saw Charlie's reply. Apparently, he emailed to another of my email account. The address provided is correct. I have also checked with PayPal that for Asian countries, one does not require to confirm or verify the address.
------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: Renol
Date Posted: 02/26/2016 at 12:49pm
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Just an update. Finally, I received my blade - Excalibur after the confusion during the first delivery. The quality and workmanship is great! As mentioned a couple of times in this forum, the handle is really very comfortable. However, I have not test it yet.      ------------- Blade: DHS Long 5 FH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) BH: DHS Hurricane 3 Neo (Provincial) |
Posted By: victorm
Date Posted: 02/27/2016 at 5:11pm
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Very nice looking blade indeed! Excellent craftsmanship. |