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Topic: Table tennis and your brain
Posted By: Pete73
Subject: Table tennis and your brain
Date Posted: 01/17/2016 at 10:33pm
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Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 01/17/2016 at 11:01pm
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Interesting, aren't there some academic types on this forum - is this valid claim? ------------- Butterfly MPS FH: Donic Acuda S1 BH: Palio CK531A OX |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/17/2016 at 11:16pm
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I guess I'm one of the academic types. In general you can learn to improve any number of tasks in response to training if that training includes feedback that allows you to track performance. So, I am sure that the players can learn to improve their performance at picking out the visual cues -- on the app. I honestly don't know if it would improve performance in actual play. It might. Or it might help you pick out the cues as to where William Henzel hits the ball but nobody else, and few if any of us will ever get to play William Henzel (sadly). I just don't know. I think I will try it just to see how it goes. Even if it doesn't work I like the idea of supporting those guys. |
Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 12:36am
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Thanks Baal, but when making a claim like this should there be some controlled and verified studies done. ------------- Butterfly MPS FH: Donic Acuda S1 BH: Palio CK531A OX |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 12:37am
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It's a ping pong forum. I think we shouldn't take stuff that seriously. Many things get claimed here that have no data behind it. The world has not spun off its axis. Sometimes you can provide the data and people still get upset. I'm about to go and download it onto my tablet, even though I am actually a bit skeptical that it can work. |
Posted By: Tassie52
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 5:19am
 I've downloaded the app and had my first few goes, failing miserably at the slowest speed.  Regardless of anything else, I know that the thing which is having a major impact on my play is what my coach calls "being hypnotized by the ball" - after I hit the ball I keep watching it rather than looking at my opponent to see what is coming next. At least with this app I can focus on William Henzell to the exclusion of everything else. Maybe (and it's a big maybe) I might just learn to look somewhere useful! |
Baal wrote:Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 6:48am
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Wrong address for the Android app on the video... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ttedge.test4" rel="nofollow - TT Edge |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 7:03am
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You can pose questions here: http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29232" rel="nofollow - http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29232 ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 8:33am
Hey Baal, you never know. It might just be fun to play and this is only phase 1 of the project. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 4:11pm
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Damn thing really is hard! |
Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 4:17pm
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There has been research done in related fields. There was a study of pro baseball players where the conclusion was they were very good at anticipating the pitch based on watching the pitchers windup. This is something that hitting coaches teach. For example, a fast ball is thrown differently from a curve ball, so watch for the cues. The hitters either consciously or subconsciously anticipated the pitch based on cues like arm/elbow position, how the ball is held in the hand, seam orientation, etc. When the windup was covered up so the hitter could only see the release of the ball from the hand, hitting % dropped dramatically. (I would post the link, but I read it years ago and can't find it) It should be possible to train people in table tennis to anticipate better just like in other sports. Another area of exploration is deception. How about when a player can hold off giving cues on which direction they will hit the ball or faking going one way and hitting it another? Phase II? For example, I was playing in a league team match where in between games I could hear my opponent say to his team "I can't tell where he is hitting". I would also like to see the app do serves. For example, player serves with the same motion but varying spins. Can you read the spin properly? |
Posted By: Tassie52
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 8:37pm
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Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 8:43pm
Hey Tassie, you might get that sooner than you think! Thanks for the question/feedback. How is my friend EK treating you? Cheers, Brett ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: basichabibi
Date Posted: 01/18/2016 at 10:15pm
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I have no idea how effective this game translates into real TT, but it's the best mobile TT game I've played. How well is everyone scoring? I'm around 70% with a score of ~40000 on level 3. I can't figure William out! I would love to have additional players, as well as an option for BH. Serves would also be cool, but I'd imagine hard to implement.
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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 01/19/2016 at 11:55am
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Studies have shown table tennis helps improve cognitive function in older adults. As we age there are changes in the brain that effect memory, spatial awareness, reflexes, and problem solving. With regular exercise (table tennis) there is a link between age specific cognitive decline and the benefit of the sport. If there is a physician here they could go into more detail of the physiological process.  ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 01/19/2016 at 6:18pm
Here is my highest score on Level 4. There is someone out there with a higher score and I haven't had time to beat him...yet.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 12:11am
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my tablet is not registering each time my finger hits the screen...... bummer. But I am improving. |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 12:49am
Baal, what type of tablet are you using. Are you aware you can only tap once for each shot? The window of opportunity starts from the time the ball leaves you til the time it comes back. The smileys up the top will register your tap. I've played it on a range of devices and haven't had an issue. One other person said they were having an issue on an Android tablet. Is that what you have? ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: ttTurkey
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 1:05am
Cool app!!! I can't speak for Baal, but I initially also thought that my taps weren't registering although they were. What threw me off is that the fingertip bulls-eyes (for lack of of a better term) don't register any kind of feedback when you tap. Perhaps that's something for version 2; if the bulls-eyes lit up or changed color (and/or if there was a clicking sound), it would be easier to know that you have successfully tapped. |
Posted By: aerial
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 7:54am
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I suck at this game... no wonder I suck at reading the game in real life too haha |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 01/20/2016 at 8:55am
There is a click sound when you tap. It can be soft if you aren't in a quiet location. We will think about having the buttons light up. Here's my score's on level 3 and 4. You get more points (bonus) if you click early.   ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 5:14am
We are currently submitting an update on
both IOS and Android to deal with sensitivity issue people are having on Level
1. The touch sensitivity concerns don't occur at levels 2 and above. For
various technical reasons, sensitivity increases with the speed of the levels.
Included in the update will be a flash to represent your initial touch. It's important to be aware that you can't click after the ball is behind you as it will register a selection for the next shot. The window of opportunity starts when the ball leaves you and finishes when the ball comes back. You have to be fast. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Gtbana1
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 2:59pm
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On an Android phone and find it is not always registering taps and there is a bug that registers as a tap even if the ball goes on the opposite side. A good exercise though!! ------------- BTY Viscaria, T05,V>401 BTY Innerforce, T05, T64 |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 3:18pm
The update is on it's way so you'll be able to see your taps. There are some other minor fixes. Lots of people are realizing that they missed the window and their tap is registering for the next shot. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: mickd
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 6:46pm
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I think having a short delay after the ball leaves the screen before you can register the next ball might be a good idea. Also, I don't know why but the game crashes a lot for me when it's saving settings and sometimes when touching. It happens a lot more at the low levels. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S4. Great idea and app though! I'm looking forward to the updates. I think once it gets polished it'll be an amazing app not just for practicing reading the ball, but for anyone.
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/21/2016 at 7:13pm
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Interesting. I am probably the wrong person to comment but I have been using this app for a while now and I have never never had or crash on either of my Android cell phones. I have sometimes been confused by the responsiveness of keys but over time, got used to what I was trying to do, trusted the meritocracy of the program and never thought about it since. So it is good that I never commented earlier and the input sensitivity issues have been validated. That said, even in its present form, I have found the program immensely useful for my actual game and hope others will find likewise. I think that for most people, the challenges will come from practicing against the lefty at high speeds. That I think will significantly challenge and help moat people based on my personal limited experience. Take such anecdotes with a grain of salt of course. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 01/23/2016 at 7:34pm
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The first update is available for Android users and it's waiting for approval on IOS. After installing the update, you'll get feedback after you make your selection as a flash will appear. It also helps slightly with some of the sensitivity issues on lower levels. There are no sensitivity issues on level 3>. Just make sure you don't click when the ball is behind you as it will count for the next shot. I watched a beginner play and they clicked when the ball was behind them on every shot.
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Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 01/31/2016 at 6:39am
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The first IOS update is now available and the backhand module will be here soon too. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 02/04/2016 at 7:58am
Tassie, The William Henzell backhand module is out on Table Tennis Edge, but only on Android. Just update your current version and it will be there. IOS users will have to wait the standard 5 days for Apple to approve. It's a little painful, but they have their regulations. William's backhand looks amazing on the app and you'll get a feel for how a world-class shot comes at you. I'm struggling to read it on the higher levels, which is no great surprise. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 02/05/2016 at 7:34am
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That shot is virtually impossible to read in real time. There is aild timing alignment but that is so hard to spot. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 02/05/2016 at 9:21am
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You'll be a master at it in about a week. It will be very interesting to keep track of your progress actually. It's nowhere near as easy as the forehand and you can see why he was so hard to play. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 02/09/2016 at 7:55pm
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The backhand update is now available for IOS users. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Tassie52
Date Posted: 02/10/2016 at 8:02am
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Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 03/23/2016 at 8:16pm
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For Android Table Tennis Edge App users, there are now 5 service return modules available in the latest update. IOS users will need to wait a week. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 03/23/2016 at 9:22pm
I'm really sorry, but it's not available on Windows yet. We've actually paid for technology to have it on Windows mobile however you are perhaps the first person to mention Windows. The focus at the moment is to produce more content on android and IOS to be honest. Look, leave it with me and I'll see what we can do, though it might take a while. BTW, to everyone who complained about the Phase 1, all problems are resolved. The multiball component is totally responsive on all devices now and you have enough time to make a decision about direction. There are many more serve return modules coming and multiball as well. Different players and shots will slowly start to appear. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 03/23/2016 at 9:45pm
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What kind of moron would buy a Windows phone? You were scammed. Ask for a refund. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 03/23/2016 at 10:00pm
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OMG, I would've thrown it out the moment I was bestowed a free Windows phone. Well, I wouldn't even want to take that garbage. You're telling me other smartphones don't interface with my tablet, laptop, desktop? ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/23/2016 at 10:43pm
| Zeio, what's up with you these days? Seems to be a bit of a harder edge to your posts got the last month or so. I hope all is well with you. (Although I have to say I was happy to ditch my Iphone) |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/23/2016 at 11:14pm
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Windows phones are great. Unbelievable price (Lumia 640 costs $30 unlocked here). I bought one for my daughter & her cousin & was very impressed. I was a moron to buy a IPhone 6 & then a Galaxy Note 5, both for > $600. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 03/23/2016 at 11:16pm
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Don't play COC. That thing is now so toxic and highly contagious ever since the December update. I guess I'm not the only one affected. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/23/2016 at 11:51pm
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Brett: the serve modules are amazing! You should charge for that update - it is worth at least a couple of coaching lessons. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/23/2016 at 11:53pm
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Zeio: wrong forum, wrong iOS/ Android app / game. Is this the right Zeio? :) ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 03/24/2016 at 12:20am
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I was about to lose myself until the WTTC came and rescued me from the depths, but old habits die hard. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/24/2016 at 1:07am
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Brett: While the current serve modules do we orders to train on serve type identification, there is less pressure on reaction time implications. Suggestion: eventually, could you also add a 'pass-fail' mode in which to pass, one has to not only guess the right serve type, but also do it in a time appropriate for real-life situations. Because, currently, the game does not penalize me enough if I guess right but am very late in doing so. To all: this update is worth 100-500 USATT rating points depending on current level ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 03/24/2016 at 9:41am
slevin, at your request, I can send you our bank account details and you can pay those coaching fees! People who paid for phase 1 will continue to get free updates. The price has actually increased for people who haven't yet paid and the price will continue to go up slightly after each update. It will eventually be a very expensive app for new customers, although you and other early adopters will always benefit from your support. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 03/24/2016 at 6:54pm
slevin, this is all coming in future updates. The app will be become more like a game over time. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: WingTT
Date Posted: 03/25/2016 at 3:06am
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Poor William Henzell. Now every Tom, Dick and Harry can read his shots. :> |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 03/25/2016 at 9:08am
Good thing he's retired... ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 04/04/2016 at 7:37pm
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For Table Tennis Edge app users, there is an update available on both IOS and Android. We've add a Reverse Pendulum serve module and some other improvements. If you've had problems with the app crashing on IOS, that issue is resolved. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 04/08/2016 at 10:02am
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Guys, here's how the latest version of the app looks. For existing users, it's important to keep looking out for updates. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 04/08/2016 at 10:54am
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Brett: I shall show this app to people in my club from Monday onwards. You have a few days left to raise the app prices! :) BTW: did not realize that my TTedge membership expired a month ago. I shall update again. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 04/08/2016 at 11:09am
slevin, please lock the front door and make it quite clear that no one leaves the club before making a purchase. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 04/08/2016 at 11:12am
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A few things: I wonder if there might be value in making a long / short serve module (there might be even if this app is naturally in 2D). If so, you can eventually combine it into a full-scale simulator. For example, we assume that for touch purposes, the screen is divided into 4 quadrants. Player can serve long or short underspin or topspin versions of these serves. If I touch:
So, you can have the above in each module (for example, in the Reverse Pendulum module). You can also have a module (take more money from us for this!) in which you mix all types of serves (punch, pendulum, etc). Of course, you'll have to have one player do all serves (rather than several as it exists now). You can also up the stakes: so, if I touch the screen after optimal time to respond (based on real life serve receive situation), I get a FAIL even if I gauge the serve right. This time to respond obviously would depend on the serve type (one might assume that topspin serves should be taken at top of bounce, etc). Lastly, there is no reason why you would only have 1 reverse pendulum server: I find your reverse serve technique to be quite different from the guy you chose for the app. BTW: your punch serve is very deceptive.  Brett: you're from a country where the kids, to a large extent, are still unpolluted by all the brain frying game playing on smart phones. Out here in the US, when I see cadet or junior level players practicing (even the national team members), I see them playing games on their phone (like Clash of Clans) during their downtime (and there is a lot of downtime in clubs, especially during league nights). Hopefully, we get to a time when the coaches tell them to get on your app while they are waiting for their turn at the table.
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Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 04/08/2016 at 11:25am
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Thanks slevin The possibilities are endless. You'll should see this app evolve into very interesting. It's not even close to finished. You'll have a variety of players serving different serves at you. My Pendulum is next. Once I have all my serves in the app (for example) I'll mixed them up etc. Updates will be fairly constant. I read all your other suggestions too, so thanks for taking the time. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: SlowMover
Date Posted: 04/08/2016 at 12:23pm
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+1 on serve depth option Could be as simple as picking short or long when facing various serve types. Jim Butler might be the most deceptive for this. |
Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 04/08/2016 at 2:05pm
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Brett, Great job so far on the app. Here's a few suggestions: A non competitive app mode to study contact points. For example, a way to watch serve contact in slow motion and option to zoom in closer to see the contact. Use of a ball with stripes and being able to toggle from stripped to not striped. A hidden serve mode where the player must guess the spin without seeing contact. You may have to zoom out a little bit to get a good view of this. For example, I intentionally don't look at the contact point and try to guess the serve sometimes. Seeing the second bounce would be good for this. Keep up the great work. |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 04/08/2016 at 6:41pm
Thanks for your suggestions. Slow mo is a complicated on serves as you need a lot of frames. Hidden contact idea is interesting. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 8:18am
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Table Tennis Edge app users, there's a major update available today on both IOS and Android. Here's a video highlighting some of the new features. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/07/2016 at 7:33pm
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A new update is now available for Android users. IOS should be ready early next week. Here's a very quick video with the features. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/07/2016 at 7:54pm
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Fatt, if you don't want to wait forever for rating inflation to break 2000, buy an Android and get with the program. This app is becoming ridiculously good. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/08/2016 at 10:01am
Thanks NextLevel, I think the app still has a way to go before being ridiculously good, though it's a big improvement from where it was. We are going to introduce a passive watching module where you just view the serves at reduced speed to help with learning. The type of spin will be printed on the screen. This module should be available in a week's time. William Henzell's backspin and nospin serve will be in the next update too. Although Henzell served mostly tomahawk, he had a very deceptive backspin/nospin variation. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 05/08/2016 at 2:31pm
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Brett, Great job on the latest update. Here's a few suggestions: Add a tracer line to serves and display multiple serves simultaneously. This will show the speed/trajectory difference between different types of serves. On your youtube video for the snake serve, you do a side by side comparison between the snake and non snake serve. A mode to do this for serves in the app would be nice. Another option for comparison would be to superimpose images. For example, for multiball down the line versus cross court, superimpose both shots on top of each other so body positioning can be compared. You will need to do some video filtering and sync work, but the output could also be used on your youtube channel, so the work can be multipurpose, spreading out your cost across platforms. |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/08/2016 at 6:13pm
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IOS update is now available. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/09/2016 at 9:48am
Thanks for your feedback and support. I like the side-by-side and superimpose ideas. This sort of thing requires a lot of time, but I've recorded it for consideration. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/15/2016 at 8:46am
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Here's the 14th of May update info. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/22/2016 at 10:08am
The non competitive mode is implement, as you suggested. I'm considering taking everything out but the ball and seeing if people can read the spin by the reaction. This would just be an option, of course. Here is an overview of where the app is at. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 4:11pm
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IOS update now available. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 4:44pm
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Nice job on the update. What is your general thought about the importance of the sound of contact? Do you teach people to listen to the sound to determine if the serve is no spin versus topspin/backspin? As far as I can tell, in the serve game mode, the backspin/no spin has the same sound. Are you using the same sound for all contact? (I have been practicing lately with a chopper who is pretty good at mixing in a no spin chop occasionally. I have been trying to listen to the contact, so I have also been trying to apply this to serve receive.) BTW, I really like the receiver's edge video with the side by side and overlay. It would be interesting to see if I can hear the difference in a no spin versus spin serve. |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 7:57pm
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The topic of sound is interesting. I feel that sound is a cue however it's often not there when you need it. You may be playing in a noisy hall or the opponent may be stamping their foot. Most of the time in competition, the sound won't be there for you. You are right, we used generic sound in the app. I might consider changing that one day. There were technical reasons for this decision. In relation to the Receiver's Edge series, Part 2 is available and it's about backspin and nospin. The original sound is included. The video is an exclusive for ttEDGE members and it's unlikely to ever appear on YouTube. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 6:38am
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Update available for Android users. IOS will hopefully be a day or two. I'll make a video tomorrow. - Added a 3rd pendulum serve - Added a 3rd multiball forehand topspin - Added a 2nd multiball backhand topspin - Improved the UI ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: mickd
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 9:47am
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Thanks Brett. This app is really getting better and better. Really looking forward to future updates. I'm wondering, do you have any plans at the moment to do a major overhaul of the UI? While what you have at the moment works, I'm hoping it'll be given a more modern style design sometime in the future :) I also think this will help attract a lot more people.
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Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 9:59am
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Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by "modern style" and "overhaul of the UI". You are obviously comparing it to other apps, so I'm hoping you can be specific about what you want. Maybe you can point us towards some apps you consider modern and we can take a look. I really appreciate your input however the advice is too general. I feel like you've said "improve the app" and left it at that. We generally try to implement what users want as long as it is something tangible. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 11:24am
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Tried the new update on 2 phones. In multiball, the speed bonus is now always 0 after each game. BH/FH/block, same thing, always 0. I usually saw a speed bonus of 900-1000 before the update. Speed bonus on serves is ok. |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 11:55am
The speed bonuses and smileys have been tightened up significantly. Let me know if you like it or hate it. This app is a long way off being finished. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 12:09pm
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It's an ego deflator but I will accept it. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 12:16pm
I know. I find Trevor's backhand and forehand really hard to read and my usual early anticipation isn't going that well. I can get 2 smileys pretty often, though I'm making a bunch of mistakes and I'm surprised every single time. It's good training though. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 1:40pm
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I have mostly ignored the speed bonus because the number pre update was always about the same so therefore not interesting. It would be interesting to see a graph of actual reaction times for a session and maybe a way to compare sessions over time. |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 8:43pm
Thanks qpskfec, the graph stuff obviously needs to be in the app eventually. We actually have bigger plans than just a graph. At the moment we are focused on filling the app with more shots which is a surprisingly big job. Once that's done, we can work on other things. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/29/2016 at 8:10am
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Here's a video with the new features. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 05/31/2016 at 7:26pm
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IOS update is now available. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 06/05/2016 at 8:10am
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Latest update on IOS and Android is now available. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 06/12/2016 at 9:25am
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Latest update for Android. IOS is a couple of days away ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: mickd
Date Posted: 06/12/2016 at 10:17pm
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Great update. I'm sure you guys have heaps planned for the future already, but one thing I would like to see is the ability to have shots played continuously. What I mean by that is if you get it right (or even if you get it wrong, depending on preference), the screen doesn't pause for a short period before the next ball. This way it should mimic a real rally a lot better. Ideally, the ball would be returned at a speed similar to a real rally. Keep up the great work.
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Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 06/12/2016 at 11:20pm
It might be only me... sorry... but I feel that the title of this thread is misleading. Perhaps it might be called "How one inexpensive and table tennis related smart phone app affects your brain" ? ------------- (1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH. |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 06/14/2016 at 11:53am
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IOS update is now available ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 07/03/2016 at 8:11am
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Android update is ready now and IOS will be available on Monday or Tuesday. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 07/03/2016 at 2:35pm
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I get problems in the 'games' section on my Android device. I choose 'tap' instead of 'swipe'. However, many taps do not register. This does not happen in other parts of the app. BTW: could you add a pause button during the slow-mo replay section of the serves module? Great work! ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 07/03/2016 at 3:08pm
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Nice update. +1 on slevin's comments I have tried the game mode on 2 phones. I have no idea if my tap isn't registering or I am too slow. Maybe there should be "easy, med, hard" modes so players can actually tell what is happening. To be more useful, I would like to see an option for feedback on reaction time. Maybe a bar with a tick marks for my reaction time versus what is needed to win the point. Another option to have voice recognition. For example you could say "right/left/topspin/backspin" etc. instead of tapping/swiping. It would be interesting to see the difference between voice and physical contact. I expect using voice will be a bit faster. |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 07/03/2016 at 5:38pm
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You need to be quick to stay in the rally. If the ball passes the end line, William takes the point. The multiball section is designed differently and allows for users to be much slower. Next week there will be different levels - beginner, intermediate, advanced and pro. There will also be a match against Trevor. The existing game against William is intermediate level, so train hard! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |
Posted By: Brett Clarke
Date Posted: 07/04/2016 at 9:00pm
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IOS update is available for download ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeVY83yRC4&list=PLNY781aBo5KpjN_JTUDMEEQMXg90EmCjK" rel="nofollow - Table Tennis Videos by Brett Clarke |