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Topic: Table Warping
Posted By: xvrickh
Subject: Table Warping
Date Posted: 01/26/2016 at 6:14pm
You can skip the back story and go to the last paragraph for my question.

I'm trying to host a table tennis club in the school I work at, and as everyone knows tables take up a lot of space. To combat the space issue, I plan on collecting low cost, used tables online, removing the frame/structure below, and keeping just the top. Storing the just top is saves a lot more space and I have tables the tops can sit on that put the tables 1 cm below regulation height, so it's almost perfect.

Last week (on a Friday) a student donated a top that wasn't in use. I removed the frame leaving just the board/top. And played a couple hours of table tennis after school with students. When everyone was done I placed the two halves upright against a wall for the weekend. Over the weekend I purchased another used table, but kept frame on that goes around the underside boarder, which gives support each half of the table. 

I returned to the school on Monday to find that the two piece I used on Friday had warped significantly. All 4 corners on both tables were bending downward to a very obvious degree. They weren't stored in the best conditions, so it wasn't too surprising. I laid the two halves flat on the floor and put heavy objects on top to reduce some of the warping. The table I picked up over the weekend was checked a couple days after I put it into storage and noticed that even though there is a metal frame around the boarder, it was still starting to bend. The newer table was stored in much better condition. Both tables were leaning up against a wall, and the only space I have for them is to lean up against the wall; I can't lay them flat forever. 

My question is... does anyone recommend a conversion top that can lean up against walls or be stacked next to each other without warping at the corners? My friend had a pool table top that wasn't always on top of the pool table and instead was leaned against the wall when not in use, and I never recall it warping. It has been years since they sold their pool table and table top, and even longer since his family purchased it, so they don't know the brand. Any suggestions would help. Thanks for reading and I'm looking forward to replies/suggestions.



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Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 01/26/2016 at 11:32pm
So you took off the anti warping frame and now it is warped?
 sorry I can't work it out either


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Posted By: xvrickh
Date Posted: 01/27/2016 at 1:21pm
No. Sorry if I was not clear enough. Let me rephrase. 

The first table top is empty underneath (no frame), was leaned up against a wall, warped. I understand the frame along the edge is important.

Second table top has the frame around the bottom edge, leaned up against a wall, it warped

I had a friend with a conversion top, I don't remember a frame around the underside of it, it was placed up against a wall for long periods when we were in the pool phase vs the table tennis phase and the top never warped.

Are there some conversion tops with "anti-warping technology" because even the metal frame on the bottom of my second table isn't preventing warping. Or are conversion tops made differently? I remember my friends was completely painted while the tables I have are painted on the top and exposed on the bottom, which could allow for moister to enter.  


Posted By: chu_bun
Date Posted: 01/27/2016 at 1:43pm
Most tables are stored with the boards folded up vertically which is not much different from leaning against them against a wall.  Even a cheapest piece of particle board should hold its shape when leaning against a wall over a weekend.


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Posted By: mjamja
Date Posted: 01/27/2016 at 1:58pm
In case you do not have luck in finding a non-warping conversion type top I have a couple of suggestions for storage of the regular tops.

1. Do not let the bottom edge touch the floor.  Get a couple of 2x4's and put them up against the wall so that the tops will sit on them and not on the floor.  Mopping, natural condensation, spills, etc can put water on the floor that will hasten the warping.  Getting them up even a little off the floor can help.

2. Come up with some kind of restraint system (bungie, rope, stops on the 2x4's) so that the tops are standing vertically (not leaning) against the wall.  Any force on the edges in a bending direction will lead to warping.  If the weight is straight down (in line with the plane of the top) there is no bending force.

Hope you have great luck with your school project.  TT really needs to get into more schools.

Mark


Posted By: xvrickh
Date Posted: 01/27/2016 at 2:15pm
Chu:  I was surprised by how much it had warped. It was stored in a garage, so i'm assuming it took on a lot of moisture, while the second table was in a basement.

Mjamja: thanks for the advice. I will try to keep the straight up and down and see if that changes anything with my next table.


Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 01/28/2016 at 4:15pm
If a table top never warped before and then you stored against the wall, then this a storage problem
is it a block wall, outside wall, damp wall
 frame and storage are the key, I have many tops leaning against walls, boxs without warping
maybe you have some compilary action so as Mjamja said keep off the floor and also something to stop table from leaning on the wall, most tables will be mdf and will absorb moister 


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Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black
NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website



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