Pips on jpen?
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Topic: Pips on jpen?
Posted By: Bobobo
Subject: Pips on jpen?
Date Posted: 05/18/2016 at 2:25pm
| Would pips work well for jpen? What types of pips would work best if i want to use it for hitting? |
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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/18/2016 at 2:49pm
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Darker Speed 70 r 9 mm + Spectol is great for hitting. If you want more control and spin, Moristo SP works well on 1-ply hinoki. Here are a few examples. World over 40 champion Sahara uses Darker Aquablade Marugata with Flarestorm II(go to 3:00): This lady here plays with Kokutaku Beseic V2 Special and Zava max This guy with Butterfly 1-ply hinoki and Moristo SP: Nitchugo Super(Senkoh 5) + Nittaku Specialist Soft ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 05/18/2016 at 2:57pm
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old school but world champion kohno used spectol on a shorter (but not round) j/k blade supposedly so did hyun jung wha who won women's in 1993 with a j/k round blade :)
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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/18/2016 at 3:10pm
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Kohno used a special blade with egg shape - Birmingham 77. It's too slow for the 40+ elephant ball. Hyun Jung Hwa Nitchugo Super + Spectol. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/21/2016 at 4:56pm
How is zava compared to moristo?: arc, knuckle, control..can you post more short pips penholders pm |
ChichoFicho wrote:Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/22/2016 at 3:32pm
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Zava is less spinny pip meant for counter hitting and blocking. Moristo is hard to control in max and the ball doesn't sink as much as Zava. Zava is more advanced pip while Moristo is friendly and easy to use but there is no sinking unless you put it on a 1 ply hinoki blade. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/22/2016 at 3:53pm
Not that many penhold hitters left nowadays. Some semi pro penhold hitters switched to inverted or have stopped playing since the introduction of the plastic ball. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/22/2016 at 10:54pm
Idont get it then why moristo is more popular among pros than zava.is zava harder to handle than spectol? |
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 1:38am
Zava is well known in Korea only. The best penholders use spinny pips (Tasei used Raystorm; He Zhi Wen uses Spinpips; Wang Zeng Yi 802-40 and so on) these days because you cannot survive at 2700+ by counter hitting only. The only pro penhold player using Moristo at really high level is Kim Nam Soo and his strokes are not typical hitters strokes. He and Lee Eun Hee are the only two high level players in Korea who survived after the changes : speed glue ban and the 40+ ball. But they are basically semi-retired nowadays. Zava is easier to use but it is not as destructive as Spectol Speed. This is a recent match of Kim Nam Soo: ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: sandiway
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 1:49am
The dude still has the arm hiding serve from yesteryear... |
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 3:54pm
Nothing wrong with his serve. He removes the free arm after the toss. Good serves. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 4:03pm
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Posted By: sandiway
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 4:20pm
Ha ha. Do you know why you can't spot the ball here?  Answer: it's because it's behind his free arm. Jang Woojin (his opponent) is a very high level player, so it really doesn't matter.
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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 4:30pm
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Of course you can spot it and Jang sees clearly the ball. The free arm is going to the left and when the ball reaches the height at which the palm is on your picture he is going to make the contact with the ball. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/24/2016 at 2:52am
Do you have more videos of him or pics of good cpen sp player? What thickness is he using? |
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/24/2016 at 1:55pm
He hasn't been playing much. A whole generation short pips penholders completely disappeared in Korea. The new rubbish ball makes life for penholders very hard. Chinese penhold hitters will disappear completely forever at high level. Kim used to play with 2.1 mm before the plastic elephant ball came into play. Now perhaps max. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/25/2016 at 2:35pm
I ve seen a korean girl with sp cpen ittf site months ago .do you know if there are juniors with this style?..know any cpen with spectol recently? |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/25/2016 at 3:39pm
I know there is cpen hitter sp in korea i checked in ittf site. Do you know any cpen hitter with spectol beside zhou xintong? |
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 2:57pm
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Zhou Xintong uses the short pips for serves only. No cpen hitters anymore. The plastic rubbish ball will ultimately liquidate all styles except the two wing shakehand power looper who plays close to the table and doesn't think much. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 07/11/2016 at 12:54am
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Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 07/11/2016 at 9:56am
| I wouldn't play SP with a jpen blade. Because SP penhold play requires fast changes from BH-FH and it´s faster to make that changes with a cpen grip. It´s also easier to block using cpen blades. |
Posted By: The Canadian Bacon
Date Posted: 07/11/2016 at 4:26pm
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Why not give it a go, try speedy po You have to have really quick feet |